Shortbread

Dear Shemp,
Thank you very much for my partner account. Sorry I missed you yesterday. I heard you were asking about me

__________________

http://www.makingcoin.com
http://www.coinscuties.com
203813007

cluck

Wow man this really set Shemp off. Personally I don't see anything offensive in the wording rio used. It just sounded like he wanted to know if the listings higher up would get enough traffic to cover the $90 fee.

At the same time though, business is business and it's gotta stay that way. As far as I know, shemp is one of the most helpful guys around. He's always answering questions on the MP board. TGP owners are webmasters too, they're not gods. They have the right to just say fuck it sometimes and delete a submitter or whatever if they want. Not EVERYTHING can be personal, that can only cause problems in a business where there's so much social interaction mixed in.

My are worth more than any of your BTW. If you disagree, bring it.

__________________
icq 279990726
www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

X37375787

201 deleted accounts

Spunky

Fuck off moron..what do you do exactly anyways where people should listen to your drivel?

__________________

MicDoohan

youre missing the point geniarse - the guy simply asked a question - if he was going to be speding money on a service and was lookign for some feedback

AND you are forgetting one little point - if noone submitted galleries then these guys would have nothing to list

run that all thru ya head and get back to me

X37375787

MicDoohan

what i dont do is post on gfy all day

later homegirl

cluck

Hosteds

You think submitting will be around much longer? Hopefully soon the only thing left will be paid spots. Free spots are a waste of advertising space IMO. Better to have a good gallery designer post some galleries that'll make a good return than a free submitter barely making anything with a crap gallery

__________________
icq 279990726
www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

Spunky

Right Einstein...With the shitload of free hosted galleries and content available who the fuck needs to deal with the cheaters and cry babies. Whats your website? I want to add you to my blacklist

__________________

X37375787

However, a TGP owner like Shemp has always the option to deny all free submissions and only list paying submitters. However that still doesn't justify his reaction.

Just opinions, that's all.

Dveron

word

__________________
Adult Comics Club - Updated Bi-Daily. 60% Recurring Payouts. Exclusive Comic Content.

MicDoohan

but hold on you dont have one because submitted galleries are useless


make up your mind

the Shemp

Riosluts was a preferred submitter for one day when i posted his first gallery. would you list him above the other
gallery submitters that have been me for years? or would you kind of keep an eye on him for the first few days and give him a lower listing at first.

i did him a favor and he didnt like the results... 1300 hits wasnt good enough, so he is gone, someone else takes his spot and let the crying begin...

__________________
i use Vacares...so should you
Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

the Shemp

a few paid spots, my own galleries, some more sponsor galleries,
plus the galleries of all the other tgp guys that i TRUST.. sounds good sometimes....

__________________
i use Vacares...so should you
Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

tbabe

Well, im happy with my shemp account, thank you shemp!

And like all tgp's, it is his site, so like any owner, he can do as he likes.

__________________

Still one of the best programs on the net.

According to their banner, you can get rich.

Spunky

I don't have what? I run a few sites and know what Shemp has to go through.I have had it with fucking cheaters so I already closed off the submission form on a couple of my sites.I have more than enough of my own shit to promote. You will soon see more and more sites asking for partner accounts only.

__________________

the Shemp

ya, i was, but i thought your name was shortcake ;)

__________________
i use Vacares...so should you
Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

riosluts

With 1300 hits it would take a long time to get a signup. If I got a GOLD PLUS account it would of sent me more hits, which meant more signups faster. I only started this whole thing because I wanted input on the GOLD PLUS account. More than half the people are on my side and dont find what I said, to be complaining.

__________________

m00d

riosluts, you're fired.

Steve

Shemp let him off easy

You know what a TGP/MGP owner wants out of a submit account PARTNER? A professional.

Questioning the value of your traffic on a busy webmaster board isn't exactly what I expect from a partner.

Complaining after less than a weeks worth of listings?

Buh bye. Dont let the door hit you on the way out. Let the other 500-5000 people looking for a submit account know there is a new opening, too.

cluck

Just some words of advice if you're new to galleries or the biz in general. Before you buy paid submitter accounts or gallery spots take the free partner accounts and use the 1k/day hits to gals or whatever and use it to tweak your style. Track your CTR and conversions if there are any sales very closely. If you can't get enough traffic to make a sale base it on what's worked well for other WM's. Copying strategy isn't a crime.

Get a few templates with a high CTR for a good converting sponsor in your portfolio. It's good to keep spreadsheets with all the numbers too.

Then, buy the preferred account. Let the traffic roll in and your pre-big traffic launch effort will pay off very well. I don't do galleries much but when I do I use one that's proved itself. I have no problem buying a gallery spot and making double what I paid for it because I took the time to analyze all the data and utilize all the resources, such as free traffic I could find.

__________________
icq 279990726
www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

the Shemp

Rio this isnt a democracy, you wanted traffic, it wasnt enough for you, you said that, so I dont like that, so goodbye, Rio.

you need an attitude adjustment. The only persons opinion that counts on whether you get a listing or not, is mine, not the majority of GFY posters.

__________________
i use Vacares...so should you
Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

X37375787

In my humble opinion, he was happy with the traffic, but needed more and therefore wanted to upgrade in order to get listed higher and receive more of the good shit. He wasn't complaning about the quality of the traffic, but the amount:


He was willing to pay you for a higher listing, and you shut the door right in front of your eyes.

Just a little weird, in my perspective. Especially from a business standpoint. Ah well. Enough crying.

riosluts

But whats wrong with wanting to get more traffic by upgrading my account status. 1300 hits isnt alot, and thats true. I was willing to pay to get more.

__________________

Baxter

hey shemp,

i dont even know if my account is active... had a major crash and lost all my shit

password and all that shit

__________________
Baxters Network - Baxters Network of high qaulity porn sites!!!
Medium Pimpin - Sells Better Than Condoms On Prom Night!!


Email: [email protected]
ICQ Number: 297-381-398
Location: Michigan

the Shemp

"Does anyone have a shemp Gold Plus account and are you satisfied with it?"

IS THIS TOO SIMPLE?

__________________
i use Vacares...so should you
Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

oldtimer

Rio was asking if was worthwile to spend $90.00 to buy MORE of your traffic. That doesnt sound like someone who was unhappy with it to me.

Funny how different people read that post and think it means sometrhing totally different. That alone should tell you to give him the benifit of the doubt.

__________________
Im here to help surfers find relevant content

X37375787

Point taken.

Steve

There's this nifty little invention. It's called e-mail. That would have worked so much better than starting a thread questioning the value of the guy's traffic on a board.

the Shemp

he gets the benefit of the gong, he is out....
i dont see what the problem is, there are lots of other TGPs around that would love to have a guy like that as a submitter...

__________________
i use Vacares...so should you
Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

riosluts

isnt it better hearing from other webmasters who use his service. If you want some input on a sponsor, hosting, or content provider, where do most people go?

__________________

the Shemp

"Does anyone have a shemp Gold Plus account and are you satisfied with it?"

IS THIS TOO SIMPLE?

__________________
i use Vacares...so should you
Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

Steve

and if you read the posts on this page alone, you'll see Shemp wouldn't have had a probem if you left it at that.

writing this:is a far cry from writing this:

Digipimp

Thanks for taking the time to come at me since I'm a nohahahaha. Do yourself a favor and don't waste your precious time on me it will only hurt your reputation to lower yourself to talk to a nohahahaha like me.

I'm back Shemp, as soon as I'm off my call we can talk if you like. I don't know what you might have to talk to me about but I'm willing to listen anyway.

__________________

cluck

I'm not taking sides, but the way you phrased it sounded SLIGHTLY like you were questioning it. Like maybe you were saying the free accound didn't send much traffic, so the paid one might not either. It's just not good to say anything remotely possibly concieved as negative by any other webmaster about a program before you've thoroughly tested it.

Everything also got taken to a way too personal level too.

__________________
icq 279990726
www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

twistyneck

Perhaps the value of his traffic needs to be questioned.

Dveron

So basically you're pissed he put some not so great traffic numbers in his post? Almost everyhahahaha else seems to think your traffic is great here so is it that bigger deal if he wasn't happy with the number he received and didn't go along with popular opinion?

__________________
Adult Comics Club - Updated Bi-Daily. 60% Recurring Payouts. Exclusive Comic Content.

Steve

I would imagine that you dont deal with Shemp, or his traffic. As far as TGP traffic goes, he has VERY good traffic. I can attest to it, both as a gallery submitter, and as a traffic trade.

zentz

__________________
Programs that owe me money ---- Epassporte.com ~ $2700 | Protraffic.com ~ $2600 | XonDemand.com ~ $3000

Email: [email protected]

LadyMischief

More than half of those people have nothing to do with TGP and have no fucking clue what's involved in running one. You WERE complainign if you look at the context, but all things aside.. What do you really expect? Your hits are going to depend on your listing. Do you really know enough about tgp and the nuances of tgp traffic to actually say what should be productive and what shouldn't, or how many hits are enough or not? Really now, lets be honest here.

Asking questions isn't a bad thing, but when you start it off by saying what the wonderful thing you got for free IS NOT, then generally people aren't going to keep reading to see what you thinka bout what it IS. Negative often precludes the positive in a situation like this. You could have handled it much differently, learned a few things by asking around, and maybe exercised a little tact. In fact, if you would have contacted shemp, I'm sure he would have given you references or something of the like, if that's really what you need. You also seem to have forgotten that this is a holiday weekend. HOLIDAYS FUCKING SUCK FOR TRAFFIC, for EVERYONE. People are gone with families etc they can't surf porn. I'd say 1,500 hits on a holiday weekend isn't so fucking bad, all things said and done. Patience in a virtue, in business, and so is learning when to keep your mouth shut.

__________________

ICQ 3522039
Content Manager - orgasm.com
[email protected]

MicDoohan

haha you may just need a brain adjustment - if this was the case why didnt you just say 'yep its worth it' and take his 80 bucks - in your replies you told ppl not to ask questions and just give you money...so what the heck were you thinking????

SleazyDream

lol

__________________
This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

Now read without the word dog.

twistyneck

Maybe for you TGP people but my sales were pretty good today.

SleazyDream

this thread absolutly made my night

__________________
This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

Now read without the word dog.

MicDoohan

ps: steve you are a pathetic ass kisser and oracle porns bum buddy - get some help before its too late

Shaze

I think the problem starts with how rioslut posted his message. Maybe it would have been better for him to just inquiry about a Gold Plus account instead of adding the part how he had a free Gold account and that there was way to little traffic from it. He should have just said something like "Does anyone have a Gold Plus account with Shemp and is it worth it?". I don't know Shemp personally and I'm pretty new to this board but have been in the adult business for about 3 years now.
When I saw Shemps thread how he was accepting new Gold accounts I applied and got denied. I emailed him back saying no problem and wishing him luck in the business. I didn't even ask the reason why I got my application denied. He went out of his way to explain to me that my galleries need a minimum of 15 pics which I didn't know. After fixing my example galleries he accepted my application. Knowing how much applications he probably receives, I appreciated the fact that he emailed me willing to explain why I got denied without me asking and then accepting my submission. I'm pretty sure other large gallery site owners wouldn't have done this and wouldn't have even replied back.
I do think that there was a little misunderstanding between two about riosluts post, but it is Shemp's site and he should be able to do what he wants with it without taking crap from other people. Just my two cents...

__________________
Adult Search Engine Japanese Porn Thai Porn

MicDoohan

you need to get out more big boy

Steve

gee, you seem to know me so well

SleazyDream

oh my god - that is FUCKING beautiful

__________________
This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

Now read without the word dog.

MicDoohan

you like oracle porn - you gotta have issues g