World press despair over Iraq

[DVTimes]

World press despair over Iraq

Newspapers throughout the world reflect anguish and uncertainty over the situation in Iraq one year after the toppling of Saddam Hussein's regime and in the wake of the growing violence and kidnapping of foreigners.

One of the leading US dailies pleads for clarity over the coalition's mission in Iraq, while an Israeli commentator sees parallels with his country's presence in Lebanon, which ended ignominiously.

Some Japanese papers believe that hostage-takers must never be appeased, despite the kidnapping of three of their nationals.


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What we need desperately in Iraq is a clear mission, a believable strategy for success, a morally viable exit plan and international involvement.

The New York Times - US


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The array of challenges the United States now faces in Iraq seems to have emerged almost overnight but is actually the accumulation of mistakes, miscalculations and missed opportunities since Saddam Hussein's government collapsed a year ago.

Iraq specialists quoted in The Washington Post - US


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We can never give in to the threats of hostage-takers.

Sankei Shimbun - Japan


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We can never succumb to this despicable threat. We must deal with it with a firm attitude.

Yomiuri Shimbun - Japan


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The United States has no options now that it has been proved that its political plan to propagate democracy has failed. The US plan has therefore reached its end, because US culture is a culture of war which the world does not need. Peace is humanity's only option.

Ukaz - Saudi Arabia


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The resemblance between our invasion of Lebanon and America's invasion of Iraq is amazing. We wanted to create a new order in Lebanon; they wanted to create a new order in Iraq. Within a short time, in both cases, the Shia had woken up and the invading armies became targets of attack. We pulled out without achieving a thing and Bush is still there, mired in a sea of blood from which no good will come. If I were him, I'd send Saddam Hussein back to Iraq - he would know how to sort this mess out in no time.

Commentator in Haaretz - Israel


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A year later, and Iraq, loyal to its brutal tradition, has sunk in rivers of blood, bitterness, hatred and paranoia. Who still remembers President Bush's vision of regional democracy that would begin in Baghdad and Ramallah and spread to the other Arab countries?

Commentator in Yediot Aharonot - Israel


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The Iraqis have discovered that the freedom the Americans introduced means humiliation, enslavement and the usurpation of Arab resources so that America can grow richer by starving and subduing the people.

Commentator in Kul Al-Arab - Israeli Arab


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Yes, Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled, but Iraqis have discovered that one regime was replaced with one that is much worse, and that the American occupier and his allies are much worse than Saddam.

Al-Sinnarah - Israeli Arab


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Even if Iraq is not the US military's 'second Vietnam', it is still a frightening quagmire... anti-US sentiment in Iraq has reached a critical point, which is likely to give rise to a nationwide anti-occupation situation... America's self-invented 'liberator' image has collapsed just as the statue of Saddam did a year ago.

People's Daily - China


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George Bush has forced the leaders of the Arab world to fear not the fate of Saddam Hussein, but a large-scale Shia uprising and a civil war capable of spilling beyond the borders of Iraq... [The situation provides] a chance for Moscow's voice to be heeded by Washington... the opinion of Russia and its partners in the anti-war camp should be taken into account.

Commentators in Nezavisimaya Gazeta - Russia


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For power to be handed to the Iraqis in June, it must now first be taken from them. The resistance is growing because the Iraqis don't want to live under occupation. And no amount of military force will make them feel otherwise.

Krasnaya Zvezda - Russia


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With the insurgencies becoming more frequent and violent, the 'coalition of the willing' is proving to be a 'coalition of the wavering'... A year after the fall of Saddam Hussein, the coalition no longer controls much in Iraq, which is starting to look like Afghanistan at the time of the Soviet occupation.

Liberation - France


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The Americans have failed to re-establish security for property and people throughout the country, and security is the minimum service that any population expects of the state. Without security, freedom will always remain an empty word in Iraq.

Le Figaro - France


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Spain has to make an urgent reassessment of its military presence in Iraq. One part of the Plus Ultra Brigade has become isolated in Najaf and other places. Spanish troops did not go there to fight or come under siege from a population which rejects them, but to help in reconstruction.

El Pais - Spain


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The situation in Iraq is getting increasingly explosive. Shia and Sunni rebels are uniting their forces... a clear challenge to the occupying forces, pushing the conflict towards a new, unpredictable situation. The war in Iraq is copying, in other ways, the worst characteristics of other conflicts. As in Chechnya, the first kidnappings of foreigners have emerged.

ABC - Spain


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The pictures of the dead and injured are as striking as those of the abducted foreigners. But we must not forget this: during Saddam's terror there were no cameras to capture the images of the dead, the tortured and the mutilated... Nohahahaha can really want the Americans to hand the country over to the Iraqis and come home. The upshot would be unimaginable, bloody chaos, worse than anything that we are currently having to watch.

Commentary in Bild-Zeitung - Germany


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Schroeder did his country a service by not sending Germany to the front line in Iraq in the alleged war against terror.. So that there is no misunderstanding: it is important for Germany to be friends with the Americans. But for this very reason, it could also be important not to be friends with George W Bush.

Commentary in Bild am Sonntag - Germany


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The invasion of Iraq is still suffering from the error that existed at its birth: There is no clear formula for how the country can live in peace. Prophesies that Iraq would be ungovernable seem now to be coming true.

Commentary in Sueddeutsche Zeitung - Germany


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They won the war. But... have lost the peace in Iraq. The worst thing is that each day takes the country even further away from the vision that allegedly brought the "coalition of the willing" into the country.

Commentary in Berliner Zeitung - Germany


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The US-led coalition has lost the peace in Iraq - if it ever existed and was not just self-delusion. The second war - following the first, which began a year ago and seemed to have ended with the overthrow of Saddam Hussein - has only just begun.

Commentator in Frankfurter Rundschau


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The peace was lost from day one when Baghdad was taken over by looters, robbers and murderers.

Commentary in Der Standard - Austria


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[Webby]

Na.. the "war is being won" and "we are here to stay" and it's wonderful for the Iraqi people to have us there!

Depends if you are watching Fox and CNN - some actually believe them ....

As I said several times.. there is a severe lack of comprehension and an inability to accept the truth in places.

[KRL]

Sorry, but we must stop Islam from spreading and we will.

Iraq is just phase one of the plan. Iran, Syria, and Sudan are next up to bat. Arrafatfuck is going bye bye also.

[xroach]

http://www.howardbloom.net/islam.htm

[Corleone]

Originally posted by KRL
Sorry, but we must stop Islam from spreading and we will.

Iraq is just phase one of the plan. Iran, Syria, and Sudan are next up to bat. Arrafatfuck is going bye bye also.

stopping a religion? sounds racistic

[Webby]

KRL:

Sorry, but we must stop Islam from spreading and we will.

Iraq is just phase one of the plan. Iran, Syria, and Sudan are next up to bat. Arrafatfuck is going bye bye also.

Where the Iraqi's some problem with "islam"?? Sadly they now have more reason to align with islamic extremists than ever.

What "plan" did Iraq have to play in this?? None.

You can't change people's perceptions of things by bombing the shit out of them under some "guise" and killing 1000's - that just gets an equally opposite reaction.

Force can be "beneficial" under the right circumstances - there are no "right circumstances" with this adventure.

[marcu5]

so what is your plan to change their entire religion/culture? Sit them down and make them watch the passion of christ after we bomb a 3rd of their existence

[Sambo]

They have kidnapped 7 Chinese as well now........

I dont think they will roll over and take it

[blackmonsters]

many people got angry with the French, Germans and Russians about not supporting the war at the UN but maybe they were not against us; maybe they were just trying to tell us something.

[Centurion]

Originally posted by KRL
Sorry, but we must stop Islam from spreading and we will.

Iraq is just phase one of the plan. Iran, Syria, and Sudan are next up to bat. Arrafatfuck is going bye bye also.

Now we is stopping Islam?
Damn..our goals keep changing daily!

[chupacabra]

operation meat-shield continues..

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by KRL
Sorry, but we must stop Islam from spreading and we will.

Iraq is just phase one of the plan. Iran, Syria, and Sudan are next up to bat. Arrafatfuck is going bye bye also.

Are you joking?

Getting rid of Saddam is helping Islam to spread, not stopping it from spreading!

[Roger]

it is important for Germany to be friends with the Americans. But for this very reason, it could also be important not to be friends with George W Bush.

good one.

[bhutocracy]

Originally posted by xroach
http://www.howardbloom.net/islam.htm

the lucifer principle is a good book.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Centurion


Now we is stopping Islam?
Damn..our goals keep changing daily!

Amazing isn't it ??? Soon, we will have confirmation that the WMD the USA were looking for are in fact the ISLAMIC RELIGION !

BTW, under the dictature of Saddam, this was controled. Bush as a dictator doesn;t come to the ankle of Saddam...

[Webby]

Marcu5:

so what is your plan to change their entire religion/culture? Sit them down and make them watch the passion of christ after we bomb a 3rd of their existence

Plan?? I have no plans for anyone - it seems to be the US that has plans?

I'd not be so fucking arrogant to even assume I would "change their entire religion/culture". It was there centuries before places like the US was ever heard of and the US, with only 5% of the world's population, certainly won't be changing that.

Perhaps that's the problem - some "new kids" on the block just want the world to be a consuming service industry just as they are used to...

[dav555add]

My gf told me to refrain from posting offensive and insensitive opinions, therefore it is with regrets that I will not express my opinion here

[brickbat]

Originally posted by dav555add
My gf told me to refrain from posting offensive and insensitive opinions, therefore it is with regrets that I will not express my opinion here

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[PenisFace]

Originally posted by brickbat

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Honestly though dav555, there's a difference between opinions and calling people names.

If you want to argue, go ahead, just use opinions, not childish insults, which seems to have become the norm here on GFY

[dav555add]

I May be Whipped but I get much Favors in Return, if you get my drift

[blackmonsters]

Originally posted by dav555add
I May be Whipped but I get much Favors in Return, if you get my drift

Plus your blood pressure is probably lower.

[KRL]

Originally posted by Corleone


stopping a religion? sounds racistic

Study what life is like under Islamic Extremist rule, then you can feel free to call me any name in the book.

[KRL]

Originally posted by Webby
KRL:



Where the Iraqi's some problem with "islam"?? Sadly they now have more reason to align with islamic extremists than ever.

What "plan" did Iraq have to play in this?? None.

You can't change people's perceptions of things by bombing the shit out of them under some "guise" and killing 1000's - that just gets an equally opposite reaction.

Force can be "beneficial" under the right circumstances - there are no "right circumstances" with this adventure.

Look at where Iraq is situated in the Middle East and what its sitting on top of.

The CIA has a full intel center there now. We have a full militer center there now. All the arab states are sweating right now.

[Webby]

KRL:

Look at where Iraq is situated in the Middle East and what its sitting on top of.

The CIA has a full intel center there now. We have a full militer center there now. All the arab states are sweating right now.

Oil??

If the Admin in the US actually thinks it will end up removing the oil from Iraq - I'd seriously doubt that. Who knows, but I'd suspect, roughly in order - the UN will end up there and a "legitimate" government will be elected and they will decide what to do with that country's assets. (not saying it won't be hell tho in the meantime!!)

Some senator was giving his thoughts on prorities the other day.. first was establishing peace - the second was a US embassy there!! :-) Hell.. what a dreamworld some live in!! There is no chance of any US embassy in Iraq for decades - the Iraqi people would blow the place to hell. Not an "unexpected" reaction when families have been obliterated as a result of the "war" - what you you do if some assholes killed your family off? There is too much damage done on this "occupation" - it will take many years to cool. They just don't want to know about the US at this time tho, hell knows what they do want to know about. Self rule maybe is a start.

The arab states may be "sweating" - but I doubt over the US. They don't want the US there either, but can see an uprising of elements within their countries who are not wanted (et al bin Laden) and who could cause a total all-out war if they did not "manage" the situation.

That area will, in the end, develop WMD, irrespective of the wishes of others. Not a good thing - but that's life and some ask, why are some countries allowed to have WMD and others not? Who decides this? Those who have?

On the oil side - Iraq will become a fully functional member of OPEC (kinda partly that way at the moment, but has a "leary eye" from members since the goverment is not legitimate). OPEC members will jointly decide on the oil distribution, depending on market forces and who is of benefit to their countries.

This ain't a battle of "middle east" and the "west" - more arab nations have no interest in any "wars" - they just want to stay the way they are thanks. They have no desire to dump their cultures for anyone (whether this is good or bad in the west does not matter to em). I doubt they would be dictated to by anyone - who would? Any "intrusion" will just result in total havoc and a price to pay that exceeds anything we have seen - yet.

The removal of Saddam was clearly a good thing and a plus, but the resultant damage to Iraqi has far superceded this and is a massive minus - both for the Iraqi's and the US and it's "coalition of the willing". There will sadly be a corresponding price to pay for this - we ain't seen nothing yet - it's a pity how life flows on like this and we come up with cliches of "terrorist acts", "rebels" and "insurgents" -- nohahahaha is going to change the mindset of others by blowing up their families - even in error. We now have plenty of these people wandering around waiting for their chance - they don't need Al-Queda to help em. I sure wouldn't if shit happened to me or my family.

Peace out!