Should Saddam be released and put back in Charge??

[JFK]

Lets face it the whole war was a sham pretext.Now that Saddam has been punked by the US, he can be put back as a US puppet as he was before.NO WMD...so GW can Back peddle and Come to "a new understanding" with certain Guarantees from Saddam. By now he(saddam) is aware that the US can waltz in anytime,so he wont be so Cocky.They can Hold an election and I am sure it can be arranged that Saddam will win.This would eliminate a lot of long term hassles for the US, also save a bunch of American Soldiers lifes

[FrankWhite]

fuck that guy

he should burn in hell. and get eaten by camel spiders.

[DR_PHIL]

remember daddy bush was almost killed by "saddam"..no way he is getting let loose

[Roger]

What is this? It can't be done. It's pretty much impossible. Too late, they're stuck there for decades to come.

[LauraLee]

no way, no god damn how.

[JFK]

Originally posted by Roger
What is this? It can't be done. It's pretty much impossible. Too late, they're stuck there for decades to come.

that is what I am afraid of .......

[cosis]

burn him alive

[Gemini]

Talk about smacking the KIA's in the face... who has a large trout to deal with JFK?!

[JFK]

Originally posted by Gemini
Talk about smacking the KIA's in the face... who has a large trout to deal with JFK?!

This has nothing to do with the KIA's... its politics......mark my word The US has its new Vietnam

[Brujah]

Just hire one of his look-a-likes to take over.

[liquidmoe]

They didnt have a strategy for what to do with the nation after winning the war and they're fuct trying to think of one as they go along. So much for forward thinking.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

You can bet your bottom dollar that Saddam is actually helping the US.
Only he might know the demographical possibilities of what would happen if his government fell and who would stand up or fight.

Don't kid your self.

[Gemini]

The US has its new Vietnam...

That might be JFK... but it would be a direct insult to the people of this country to allow him to go free after so many have died getting to that end.

I remember Viet Nam very well. We were doing reports on it in 4th grade.

[hilly]

Put him back in power
He knows his country. More than when Yanks were sticking their noses into it

[Dveron]

Screw Saddam. Put Baghdad Bob back on our screens so he can tell us all how great it's going for coalition.

[Ironhorse]

Soon there will be a managerial position open in the tobacco department

[magicmike]

Originally posted by JFK
Lets face it the whole war was a sham pretext.Now that Saddam has been punked by the US,

hahaha

all of a sudden aston kutcher shows up to saddam and is like, dude you got punked!

[Digipimp]

This has got the be one of the all time dumbest fucking suggestions for solving our Iraq problems that I have ever heard of. Saddam wouldn't last a week in Iraq right now. They would kill that fucker before he even did anything, he would have to stay in hiding and virtually no one would support him. You forget they don't like him, his own supporters would rather be in charge than him and the islamists hated the fucking guy. If that Sadr guy could have his way he would fucking have Saddam killed in a minute.

The real answer is that there is virtually no solution at this point that won't envolve a huge clusterfuck. We can't pull back Iraq would be much much more dangerous than Afghanistan ever was. We can't go forward and fuck people up because it's killing to many civilians and will turn into an uprising which it is not yet.

In the end the military heads already know we're fucked so they're just trying to figure out which solution is going to hurt us the least and that's what they'll do.

[Axeman]

lol if they did that the US would be laughed at for the rest of history.

[tungsten]

Originally posted by Axeman
lol if they did that the US would be laughed at for the rest of history.

a bit too late, after Rice's testimony yesterday, most people lost all their respect for this country

[BaldBastard]

Maybe the US is learning that the Iraqi's are a bunch of crazy fucks and the only way you can rule the country is at the point of a gun like Saddam did, and shoot anyone who oposes you.

Whoops thats what there doing

[dirtyone]

Originally posted by tungsten
a bit too late, after Rice's testimony yesterday, most people lost all their respect for this country

The way most of the people here talk no one had any respect for the US anyway so fuck em'.



If Saddam did go back in it would be like it was after the first trip over there. The people that supported the US and Allies would be tortured and killed and that wouldn't be good.

[Pleasurepays]

why not?

one of the biggest problems with Patton when WWII finished was that he kept using Nazis to administer towns.

reason: they were really good at it.

[Wilber]

We should make him wear on of those hospital gowns, the ones
with no back to them. Then make him work in the prison kitchen
washing dishes so his hairy iraqi ass can be seen by all the other
fuckups lining up for food.

Hook his ass up to 110 volts so he gets a zap every time he turns
around, talks, when his arms stop moving, or when he stops chanting
"USA ALL THE WAY".

[bret]

Originally posted by JFK


This has nothing to do with the KIA's... its politics......mark my word The US has its new Vietnam

do you even know anything about vietnam? bet you can't name one city, one battle, start-end dates, number of US boys killed, presidents during that time period, fuck... i bet the only thing you could tell me is "Kerry fought their, and he said it was a horrible place and protested when he got back."

fucking moron, jump on the bandwagon with the rest. the situations have no similarities, other then the fact that the US was involved in both "wars".

i hate misinformed morons that bring about their rhetoric and try to get everyone to believe the sky is falling, again.



here, let me save you some typing so you can make up your "informed" response.

http://www.google.com

[svenski]

This isn't about the US or any other member of the coalition being weak, they're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

They can (a) do nothing and withdraw and try and keep a low profile - in which case they'll just get attacked anyway.

Or they can (b) blow the hell out of the insurgents and use the full capabilities available to them - and get blasted to hell politically.

Or they can (c) respond in a somewhat measured manner that doesn't alienate the whole Iraqi population and World opinion. This option is going to take the most time and is going to cost the most American lives.

[CamChicks]

Originally posted by bret

fucking moron, jump on the bandwagon with the rest. the situations have no similarities, other then the fact that the US was involved in both "wars".

i hate misinformed morons that bring about their rhetoric and try to get everyone to believe the sky is falling, again.

The similarities are that we shouldn't have gone to either place.
And that in both situations our government had no exit strategy.

The vietnamese didn't want us there. The iraqis don't want us there.
Both populations were/are willing to fight forever.

The first issue is the nature of Vietnamese nationalism, which is the Vietnamese people's loyalty and strong ties to their country. Vietnamese nationalism was an important factor in determining the Vietnamese people's motives for defending their country against the French and later the United States. Since the United States did not understand the nature of Vietnamese nationalism, the United States fought the war without realizing how strong the determination of the Vietcong was to succeed. The United States overlooked Vietnamese nationalism because the United States focused on the apparent threat of Communism.

The United States' main concern was to stop the spread of Communism. One theory about the threat of Communism was the Domino Theory, which said that if one country fell to Communism, the surrounding countries would also fall to Communism. The United States based part of their actions in Vietnam on this theory, even though the theory had never been proven to have any validity. There were other decisions that the U.S. made based on possibly untrue beliefs, besides the Domino Theory.

The reputation of the United States government was also a motivation for their involvement in Vietnam. The administrations during the Vietnam Era saw Vietnam as an opportunity to strengthen their reputation after their disappointing failure in Cuba with the Bay of Pigs incident. This was another reason Vietnamese nationalism was paid little attention. Another result of the United States motive to strengthen their reputation was that the United States determination to win this war became more important than the effects the war had on the Vietnamese people and their land. Due to the United States' focus on the fight against Communism and upholding its reputation, the military tactics used did not take into account the Vietnamese tactics, namely guerrilla warfare. This is a major reason why the Vietnamese were so successful. The United States was accustomed to fighting an organized war with a declared front line, unlike guerrilla warfare, which had no boundaries and allowed the Vietnamese to attack from all sides. The United States military was unprepared for this type of war.

sound familiar?




Soon after we withdraw, whether it is next month or 10 years from now, the puppet government we install will be forced out and Iraq will become an Islamic theocracy. Because that's what the majority of the population wants. Only a leader as brutal as Saddam could prevent that. (opps!)

[Pleasurepays]

i nominate myself to rule Iraq with an iron hand. i promise i will be a firm, but fair ruler.

all in favor, say "aye"

[bret]

Originally posted by CamChicks

sound familiar?

hold on man.. i am still weeding through all the propaganda trying to find a single fact in that quote. i will let you know if i come up with anything.

[JFK]

Originally posted by bret


do you even know anything about vietnam? bet you can't name one city, one battle, start-end dates, number of US boys killed, presidents during that time period, fuck... i bet the only thing you could tell me is "Kerry fought their, and he said it was a horrible place and protested when he got back."

fucking moron, jump on the bandwagon with the rest. the situations have no similarities, other then the fact that the US was involved in both "wars".

i hate misinformed morons that bring about their rhetoric and try to get everyone to believe the sky is falling, again.



here, let me save you some typing so you can make up your "informed" response.

http://www.google.com

Judging by your reply, you are obviously very well educated and know it all. All of it spoon fed to you by GW and the Like ! When you grow up perhaps you will have an opinion of your very own.
This might take a while

[bret]

brb, bill o'reilly is on.

[JFK]

cant wait

[NiTe-HaWk]

hell no keep him in jail or where ever he is

[Screaming]

have you forgotten all the horror this man produced in his decades of power, the torture, beatings, death and hell that wasnt just in his country but many

[GirlV]

I'll probably find the FBI knocking on my door after posting this, but the truth is saddam was E X E C U T E D 3 days after his capture. One of his impostors is now poised to stand trial, the true threat is gone, now we use the impostor to show that we can give a fair and just trial in the matter of international terrorism and war crimes. Ingenius idea really. GO USA!!

[Webasic]

how about this?

should we all hold you down and lineup and kick you in the nuts?

[LadyD]

[JFK]

Originally posted by Webasic
how about this?

should we all hold you down and lineup and kick you in the nuts?

You gonna have to kiss it better after

[Creative]

[PenisFace]

Originally posted by Gemini
The US has its new Vietnam...

That might be JFK... but it would be a direct insult to the people of this country to allow him to go free after so many have died getting to that end.

I remember Viet Nam very well. We were doing reports on it in 4th grade.

20k iraqi civilians have died, like 500 americans have died. Don't go bitching about insulting 500 dead people. How do you think those 20k iraqi's families feel?

[CamChicks]

Originally posted by bret


hold on man.. i am still weeding through all the propaganda trying to find a single fact in that quote. i will let you know if i come up with anything.

This war is obviously not about facts. but back to the previous point..

The current US government is full of singleminded personalities who are unable to concieve of minds that work differently to their own. Domestic and Foreign policy reflect that.

They cannot understand that homosexuals cannot stop being homosexual. They cannot understand why we all aren't shamed by naked human bodies. They cannot understand why you wouldn't want to submit to Christ. They cannot understand why Iraqi's don't want our political system. Just like in VIETNAM, our currently elected officials did not understand the values of the resident population at all, because they can only recoginize one set of values; their own. They actually believed they would welcome our occupation with "open arms and flowers".

The world is just too big and complex for these people, and they shouldn't be involved in running it. Unfortunately we have many among our own population that prefers leaders that will dumb it all down for them. Inevitably, rather than politicians who just simplify in their speeches, you also get some who actually are that simple.

[JFK]

Originally posted by CamChicks


This war is obviously not about facts. but back to the previous point..

The current US government is full of singleminded personalities who are unable to concieve of minds that work differently to their own. Domestic and Foreign policy reflect that.

They cannot understand that homosexuals cannot stop being homosexual. They cannot understand why we all aren't shamed by naked human bodies. They cannot understand why you wouldn't want to submit to Christ. They cannot understand why Iraqi's don't want our political system. Just like in VIETNAM, our currently elected officials did not understand the values of the resident population at all, because they can only recoginize one set of values; their own. They actually believed they would welcome our occupation with "open arms and flowers".

The world is just too big and complex for these people, and they shouldn't be involved in running it. Unfortunately we have many among our own population that prefers leaders that will dumb it all down for them. Inevitably, rather than politicians who just simplify in their speeches, you also get some who actually are that simple.

Very Well said

[KRL]

Fuck Saddam. He can go to HELL and rot there for eternity with his two fucked up sons.