That's a scary thought!!

blame the webmasters!

I'm not blaming anyone. My point was that the payout per signup is too high to make money off the signup alone. Hence all these other methods that have come in to play to make up for it on the back end. If the payout wasn't so high, perhaps these other things wouldn't be needed, or at least not as aggressively as they are being used.

yeah, sure :)

did you actually read what he wrote???

IT SOUNDED LIKE A COMPLETE AND UTTER NITEMARE


i didnt see him say 4 times anywhere - let me check again here - yep 18 TIMES - thats just plain fucking wrong - prompt after prompt after prompt after prompt after prompt after prompt after prompt


ARS IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN FAST

i saw marc say he could shut down right now and walk away with 30 million easy - if the payout was indeed too high i'd hate to think how much you could have otherwise made

Going down the drain huh? LMFAO If that's the case, then what am I still doing working. I should just go home. Thanks for letting me know :thumbsup

Now back to reality.....

The thing that gets me about all of this is the dialer has not changed since it was opened. It has always been the way it is now. With the millions we have paid out on it so far, I guess webmasaters think it makes them more money otherwise they wouldn't use it.

I just want to know if I set up a linking code that will show whether the international traffic is filtered or not, can we get off the blacklist. I can respect the Hun's wishes, and I also know that dialers can make webmasters more money and they should have the choice to use one if they wish. I'm just looking for a way to make it work for everyone.

When we looked at what each signup made for us vs what we paid for it, it was very much upside down. So we were losing money on every signup that came in the door. That to me says payout is too high. If a signup is only worth $20, why would I pay $35 for it? Would you be willing to take that loss?

The reason Marc could walk away with that much is because of 7+ years of rebills. But there is a big difference between positive cash flow and profitability.

>> Sending UK traffic to a dialer is wasting good money

yea rite :o)

Hm... I tend to strongly disagree on this one... Any paysite that sees free sites as competition need to take a look at their member's area and find out that they can afford to offer what can not be offered for free... But I'm sure you know that ;-)

If the option is clear in the URL I am still strongly against redirecting foreign traffic to a dialer, but I would link to ARS again. I do suggest ARS looking more in geo-targeting, there are plenty sites out there that can convert in different countries in other ways than annoying the hell out of people...

Not ARS members areas though right? I mean when a surfer joins a "niche" site they shouldn't expect more the a few hundred pics in that niche and then lots of plugins or unrelated content to that niche right? :1orglaugh

Becky you just contradicted yourself.

The webmaster can choose to have the dialer on or off on their links, and their payout is the same for the signups their traffic generates.
The dialer revenue is a totally separate issue.
So what does your dialer being aggressive have to do with webmasters wanting high payouts???

Right cutetwink, not ARS members areas. The OLD members area's were hahahahahaha cutter sites with lots of plugins and 3rd party content.

The New www.ARS4Real.com members area reality sites are full of exclusive content and not bastardized content that surfers can get from any ol' members area. That's one of the biggest things we've changed...we give surfers exclusive content that they can't get from every other site out there. Crazy concept, huh? That's one of the reasons I've been telling our affiliates to promote the 60/40 revenue share option because with surfers staying around longer, webmasters are sure to make a lot more money. :2 cents:

hahah why not indeed.. always funny to see the hun mad:thumbsup

I don't want to see The Hun mad, i want to see this problem solved :thumbsup

Just a head's up...

This issue has been resolved with the Hun. In order for your galleries to be accepted on his site, you must use the variable &nofilter=yes in your linking code. His script will look for this variable, and if it isn't present, it will deny your listing. If you have questions, please lmk.

Thanks Hun for working this out with me :)