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Old 04-07-2004, 08:30 AM   #1
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1984 The Book

I know this is deep. probably to deep for most of you all to even open this threat and look wtf this is. However, I am going to w r i t e it anyway (I give this threat not more than 20 looks)

If you never read it, Read it!. I read it many years ago in school and re-read it the other day.

The guy who wrote it was a genius. He wrote it in 1949 and I swear this is where our society is heading.

Contineus War - Keep the poles happy - Make sure were not too educated so we can see right thru Big Brother - Being watched 24/7. brainwashed. Believing that Big Brother is always right. Censorship galore

It's a hard book to read (I read it in english, however my primary language is German) I had to look up certain words. But nevertheless it gives me the creeps.

Ah, yeah and if you enjoy torture and bloodshed, it has plenty of it, you want sex, yup it has it. Corrupt Government, its there too.

Really read the book..

It's creepy
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Old 04-07-2004, 08:40 AM   #2
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Yup, George Orwell, Jules Verne and HG Wells, three men who were way ahead of their times. Good reading.

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I know this is deep. probably to deep for most of you all to even open this threat and look wtf this is. However, I am going to w r i t e it anyway (I give this threat not more than 20 looks)

If you never read it, Read it!. I read it many years ago in school and re-read it the other day.

The guy who wrote it was a genius. He wrote it in 1949 and I swear this is where our society is heading.

Contineus War - Keep the poles happy - Make sure were not too educated so we can see right thru Big Brother - Being watched 24/7. brainwashed. Believing that Big Brother is always right. Censorship galore

It's a hard book to read (I read it in english, however my primary language is German) I had to look up certain words. But nevertheless it gives me the creeps.

Ah, yeah and if you enjoy torture and bloodshed, it has plenty of it, you want sex, yup it has it. Corrupt Government, its there too.

Really read the book..

It's creepy
I always tend to read books in their original language. Translations suck most of the time.
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Between them and Aldous Huxley, you start to wonder if they weren't clairvoyant.
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Old 04-07-2004, 08:48 AM   #5
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yeah ihave made that point repeatedly that the way things are going it is almost like someone took it straight from all those books we read in high school


it is freaky, and it is probably because history has a way of repeating itself
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read The Animal Farm also by Orwell
great book about communism
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Old 04-07-2004, 08:52 AM   #7
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Skillful,

Lotsa days in this biz I feel a lot like Boxer. The pigs keep putting up the quota and I walk around saying to myself "I must work harder". LOL
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Skillful,

Lotsa days in this biz I feel a lot like Boxer. The pigs keep putting up the quota and I walk around saying to myself "I must work harder". LOL
lmao
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They were proles, not poles
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great book, and very scary seeing things now and comparing them to the book

luckily, they are not even close to THAT yet
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So, i looked at who answered, and no surprise there.

I think as I got older I started to look more and more how Big Brother is manipulating us. When I was 20 I didn't care, I only cared about partying and that I had a good time. When I was in my 30's I cared about raising the kids, getting wealth and becoming more confy.

Now I am getting older, I start to notice stuff. My mind wanders and as more I think about it as less I want to leave my home. It got so far that I am working on being totally self sufficient. I stand back and watch how the world turns into a society where no-b o d y cares about politics, where laws are made to suit Big Brother and the middle class has lost its appetite on overthrowing the government.

Lower-Class doesn't care about it anymore at all. No- bo dy goes to vote, the proles are happy with their lottery ticket and the tv which sends them censored messages.

We are the greatest nation. We are the most powerful nation. What we think is the right path in life. We will conform people to our thoughts, censor what they read and almost have them to a point where they think what we tell them too.

Sometimes I come out of my cubbyhole in the basement and w ri te about my thoughts, talk to others and tell them look around, be aware. But no-bo dy cares, so I go back into my cubbyhole .. I haven't attendet a show in 2 years.. Sure I make money online, we have to have money in order to survive.

It's freaky.. but I am numb against it now. I think on my own, sometimes share with others my thoughts just to be beaten down again. So I go on and keep watching... waiting..

Creepy

n o bo d y is censored
w r it e is censored
why? thats weird
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:13 AM   #13
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Yea thanks,, spelling is not my first thing. Should be,, but it isn't

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one of the few books I actually didnt buy cliffs notes for...
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:33 AM   #15
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The last line of the book rules.
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:42 AM   #16
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A damn good book on my 'favorites' shelf.

Also good reading: Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
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Old 04-07-2004, 09:51 AM   #17
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Last week I read "Stranger in a Strange land"

Ok, another creepy book which makes you think.

I start to prefer books who deal a lot with politics - sci/fi.. Weird eh?

Maybe I am becoming senil
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heh I read it in HS.
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1984 grows spookier and more prescient by the day
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Yup, George Orwell, Jules Verne and HG Wells, three men who were way ahead of their times. Good reading.
Maybe that's because the world hasn't changed much.Oppression is still well and alive I think even Dostoevsky was talking about it in the 1800s and it's still current today...
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steffie, that book is pretty much high school mandatory nowadays. i know i read it qwhen i was 15, and I have read it more recently... good stuff.

most here i am sure would have read it.

i recommend Future Shock and Neuromancer.

the wiord "B-o-d-y" is banned so all words containing it are too.
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good thread, Its good to see real adult discussion on this board
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Old 04-07-2004, 11:19 AM   #23
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A classic for sure, I agree that everyone should read it. lol, if you haven't read it, you're probably missing about 10 jokes/references a day here on GFY.

If you haven't already Stefie, also read Orwell's Animal Farm.
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I just picked it up and received Animal Farm in the mail yesterday. Starting on it today.

Very interesting books ,,, very creepy ,, very realistic forwarning?
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Way back in 1968 I wrote a piece for a newspaper based on the premise that "1984" had already arrived, but in a more subtle, more palatable and therefore much more dangerous way.

We have huge numbers of people who don't exercise even their most fundamental right: that of voting. The vast majority who do vote, do so based either on preconceived notions as to what will subsequently be done in their name, or else base their choice on sound bites and deliberate misinformation.

One way or another we are manipulated just as surely as if we were ruled by fear. The difference is that we are less likely to rebel.
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^^^ its big brother....
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I've read "1984" a couple of times, and my research paper at the university is actually about politicians using doublespeak in their speeches. It's pretty interesting. And spooky, too.
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I've read "1984" a couple of times, and my research paper at the university is actually about politicians using doublespeak in their speeches. It's pretty interesting. And spooky, too.
right but I never see people giving gene Roddenberry any credit either.

Like PDAs arent straight out of STar Trek early 70s, cops even use similar radios wired in theit chest to communicate amongst each other.

And cars arent beginning to look like those in futuristic sci-fi movies.

I watched Abraxas last night with jesse Ventura hahah i could say they have made predictions too.

fiction is fiction and although similiarities come up this has nothing to do with any precitions or anything.

It simply has to do with how one looks at his surroundings and presents it too future generations.

its bound to hold some water if you understand me.
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as i said, instead of fiction read "Future Shock"

that is more reality.

and is as equally accurate if not more since its based on real human study etc.

the chapters on "throw away society" is one of my faves.

he predicts the world will begin to use eveything will be DISPOSABLE.

look at today... you have disposable camera, disposable food ware, disposable, raincoats....

and its all part of the THROW AWAY SOCIETY.

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1984 isn't about predictions. It's a clear model of the wartime British society. Orwell was far from being a futurist or an author of fiction. He was a brilliant journalist with a sharp eye and a quick mind. He only had to observe and change names from "Britain" to "Oceania", etc. But the rest of it is quite realistic. I mean, you gotta read between the lines. Even the posters like "Big Brother is watching you" were only a parody on "Hitler is watching you" that were hanging all around London before the WWII started.
Orwell wrote the book after he finally realized how fucked up the system really was. He was disenchanted because before that he was a believer. So...It's not about the future. It's about the life back in the 40s and life within a system. No one has yet canceled the system. So it's about our life, too. It's about the present.
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George Orwell, a great hahahahahar. I read 1984 many years ago.

To see things in the seed is genius!
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how paroniod and siily some people are.
next you'll be telling us how close we are to "fahrenheit 451"

"make sure we're not too educated"

I hate to burst bubbles but we're smarter today than at any time in history as a society.
sadly, not all people are comfortable at this level and start to talk about "brainwashing"
its not brainwashing, it smart people recognizing whats right and the not so smart feeling leftout.
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how paroniod and siily some people are.
next you'll be telling us how close we are to "fahrenheit 451"

"make sure we're not too educated"

I hate to burst bubbles but we're smarter today than at any time in history as a society.
sadly, not all people are comfortable at this level and start to talk about "brainwashing"
its not brainwashing, it smart people recognizing whats right and the not so smart feeling leftout.
"He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
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1984 is hell of a book indeed !!
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1984 is a trippy ass book, very deep
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