I believe in Destiny and Fate.




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A little birdie told me to weigh in on this topic, so here goes.

I build my own destiny with the cards I've been dealt. However, the cards that are provided to me sometimes seem a little too apt for the conditions. And when I have dreams or feelings that a certain card is about to be dealt and then that card does show up, it makes me inclined to believe that there is more than just random quantumness at work. What that controlling influence is, I have no idea. God, the three Fates, Allah, karma, nature spirits, you name it, they are all highly, highly improbable answers to the question. Highly.

But I had a dream when I was 16 that I would meet the man I was to marry at 17, when I was totally planning on going to university first and not even seriously dating until I was 20 or so. But I did meet him, and now we've been together 10 years and one month.

That's the one that sticks out in my mind, but there have been other instances of similar nature.

So. Perhaps that answers your question. Perhaps it doesn't. :)

I belive in this:


After the spirit has been separated from the hahahaha (which happens when a person dies), he is still alive, a person, the way he was before.


To assure me of this, I have been allowed to talk with practically everyone I have ever known during this physical life ? with some for hours, with some for weeks or months, with some for years ? all for the overriding purpose that I might be assured of this fact, (that life continues after death) and might bear witness to it. (Swedenborg Heaven and Hell : 437).

And How do You Explain This?

An extraordinary experience that he had while attending a dinner party in Göteborg in 1759, in which he reported a fire in Stockholm three hundred miles away, gained him a reputation in Sweden as a clairvoyant.


He even predicted his own date of death.

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I have a hard time believing some unseen hand is guiding all our lives, but we are kidding ourselves if we think we have much control. After all, if we accept that a butterfly can cause a storm, why wouldn't we be personally affected by seemingly trivial or remote events.

More than that, "free will" itself is largely an illusion. It's not that we don't make choices, rather that the range of choices we each recognize and the option we are most likely to take up, are things largely determined by our genes, upbringing, environment and the like. By the time we are adults, most of the choices that we will make in any given situation are strictly limited and quite predictable.

Damn right! When I'm writing a story, I can't just make a character DO something. Once I've built this little guy with his backstory and mannerisms, he can only be made to do things that he would actually do (if that makes sense). I can't just hahahahaha a sweet old lady and then send her on a killing spree, for example. You have to keep the end story in mind when you create the characters, because they have to be allowed to act within their own limits.

NB: c.reate is now a censored word.

i believe i can fly :)

yez...I believe in it.....gotten me this far :)

awesome input

Fuck no.

Seriously Sleazy, I think we make our own Karma, with our thaughts, perversions, dreams, ideas and action... when it gets good is when you get the good one right ;-)

Do what your heart tells ya.... Make love to me :thumbsup

gasp! - what would your wife say!!!!!!!!!

wife what wife.. for you sexy i have no wife

what he said. :thumbsup

<small><small>quietly slips lars a copy of my room key for atlanta

I don't have what it takes to have a destiny.

I believe in both....sometimes it is fate and sometimes it is destiny

i feel sorry for you with that kind of thinking

Not really. What has happened, is you only remember or consciously validate the things that you thought were your fate at some point, and then actually came true.

It's the same as the explanation for what people consider deja vu or eery coincidences. Like people always saying it is so weird how they haven't thought of someone for years, then thought of them and saw them the next day. Well, what they don't ever consider is the THOUSANDS of times they think of someone, but then DON'T bump into them. Coincidence and nothing more, but the mind fixates on the rare instance where they bump into the person after the thought, not the 999 times they didnt.

Same for your situation. Your mind has manipulated your situations and some of your thousands of thoughts and feelings into this idea you now have. Nothing more.

I think we probably couldn't operate usefully without at least *acting* as if we believed in free will (therefore, no fate) and individual responsibility.

Whether or not either belief is objectively true? I don't know that the question is answerable.