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scoreman · 04-05-2004, 03:40 PM

http://news.com.com/2100-1024_3-5184...l?tag=nefd_top

This would appear to also have legal implications for USA based webmasters pushing casino traffic as well as US based hosting.

jasonir · 04-05-2004, 03:40 PM

They can't ban casino terms from being searched, so it's no big loss.

tbabe · 04-05-2004, 03:42 PM

i hate gambling laws. Govts are so greedy.

High Quality · 04-05-2004, 03:42 PM

Thats fine, gambling is illegal.

Gheenz · 04-05-2004, 03:42 PM

That's shitty for gambling sites!

pornstar2pac · 04-05-2004, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by milhouse_dick
That's shitty for gambling sites!

yep and a gold rush for the gambling and poker boards. Millions of ad dollars a month has to go somewhere

)

already picking out my Camero now

BradM · 04-05-2004, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
yep and a gold rush for the gambling and poker boards. Millions of ad dollars a month has to go somewhere)

already picking out my Camero now

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KRL · 04-05-2004, 03:49 PM

Gambling is one of the Very Best ways to LOSE your fortune.

Give it to charitable causes instead.

pornstar2pac · 04-05-2004, 03:51 PM

U.S. Online Gambling Policy Violates Law, W.T.O. Rules
By MATT RICHTEL

Published: March 26, 2004

he World Trade Organization, in its first decision on an Internet-related dispute, has ignited a political, cultural and legal tinderbox by ruling that the United States policy prohibiting online gambling violates international trade law.

The ruling, issued by a W.T.O. panel on Wednesday, is being hailed by operators of online casinos based overseas as a major victory that could force America to liberalize laws outlawing their business.

But the Bush administration vowed to appeal the decision, and several members of Congress said they would rather have an international trade war or withdraw from future rounds of the World Trade Organization than have American social policy dictated from abroad.

"It's appalling," said Representative Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican. "It cannot be allowed to stand that another nation can impose its values on the U.S. and make it a trade issue."

The decision stems from a case brought to the W.T.O. in June 2003 by the tiny island nation of Antigua and Barbuda. The nation, which licenses 19 companies that offer sports betting and casino games like blackjack over the Internet, argued that United States trade policy does not prohibit cross-border gambling operations.

Antigua and Barbuda further argued that the United States would be hypocritical to do otherwise since it wants to allow American casino operations to operate land-based and Internet-based units overseas.

It is not clear precisely why the dispute panel of the trade hahahaha ruled in favor of Antigua and Barbuda, since the specifics of its decision remain confidential. The ruling covers only online casinos based on the islands, near Puerto Rico, but other nations could seek similar rulings, legal experts said.

Sir Ronald Sanders, the islands' chief foreign affairs representative, said he thought it was clear from the decision that the United States must liberalize its online gambling regulations or risk being hypocritical about its stance on free trade.

"The U.S. says it wants open competition," he said. "But it only wants free trade when it suits the U.S."

The issue has emerged at the nexus of already complicated legal and social issues muddied further by the borderless reach of the Internet. Millions of Americans now gamble over the Internet, using credit cards or online payment services to wager on sports contests or at games like poker, blackjack and roulette.

Under federal law, it is illegal to offer sports bets over the Internet or to operate other gambling operations not otherwise allowed by individual states. State laws vary widely, with some allowing specific forms of gambling within their borders. Some states criminalize the placing of a bet, but others, like New York, do not make it a crime to bet online.

Online casinos are typically based in Costa Rica or the Caribbean, but also in Britain. Their business continues to grow, but not nearly as fast as industry experts once projected; the slower growth has come in part because many banks do not allow their credit cards to be used to place bets.

Also, the Justice Department has begun to crack down on American broadcasters and publishers that advertise on behalf of online casinos. The crackdown, based on an untested legal theory that American companies are aiding an illegal enterprise, has limited the ability of online casinos to reach Americans.

Sebastian Sinclair, a research analyst who studies the Internet gambling industry, said he doubted the W.T.O. decision would affect America's internal policies and instead could strengthen the resolve of policy makers who want to see the activity prohibited. At the same time, he said the decision showed the gulf in policy on the issue between America and much of the world.

"We're going down one path, and the rest of the world is going down a completely different path," said Mr. Sinclair, an analyst with Christiansen Capital Advisors.

Mr. Sinclair added that the ruling was as a "nonevent" for the Las Vegas casinos and other legal gambling operations in the United States because they risk losing their charters if they open a casino - online or otherwise - that in any way violates the licenses in states where they operate. Those state licenses could, for example, preclude legal casinos from offering wagers to Americans where gambling is not permitted.

Sir Ronald, the official from Antigua and Barbuda, said that two years ago the nation, which has a population of less than 100,000, had 119 online casinos with 5,000 employees. Today, he said, its 30 operations have about 1,000 employees.

He argued that if the United States loses an appeal before the W.T.O. and then continues to prohibit online gambling, Antigua and Barbuda would be within its international rights to raise tariffs on American companies doing business there. Sir Ronald said that since 90 percent of what his country consumes it imports from the United States, the impact could be severe for American companies like AT&T.

He said America has frequently used the trade organization to further its interests, including forcing nations to make internal policies consistent with international law. He did not cite specific examples.

Mr. Goodlatte said that the United States did not expect to change its policy and that the people of Antigua and Barbuda "may have a mini-trade war on their hands."

The congressman, along with Senator John Kyl, a Republican from Arizona, said he would question America's participation in future agreements under the auspices of the World Trade Organization.

David Carruthers, chief executive of Betonsports.com, an Internet sports book operation and casino with headquarters in Costa Rica and back-office operations in Antigua and Barbuda, said he hoped the W.T.O. decision would lead to legalized online gambling in America.

In 2003, he said, his company took 33 million bets from people in North America, most of them in the United States. He said he had 1.2 million registered customers who are United States residents.

"This could be the straw that breaks the camel's back," he said. "It's a victory for the people of Antigua but also for consumers in the United States."

New York Times~

scoreman · 04-05-2004, 03:55 PM

Other nation's objections both in court and in the press do not seem to be much of a road block for the Bush Administration's policies. If there are any channels of distribution that the casino market is utilizing in the USA, you can consider it to have a big bullseye on it right now.

BradM · 04-05-2004, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Gambling is one of the Very Best ways to LOSE your fortune.

Give it to charitable causes instead.

Gambling and prostitution have been here since the beggining of time. Even with prohibition people will ALWAYS gamble.

scoreman · 04-05-2004, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Gambling is one of the Very Best ways to LOSE your fortune.

Give it to charitable causes instead.

So I take it then that I won't find you at the table screaming at the top of your lungs for a yo eleven?

pornstar2pac · 04-05-2004, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM

2pac. Please hit me on ICQ: 21096906
I want to talk to you about something.

Cheers man.

I'll be on it in an hour or so. I'm looking at what villa in the Caribbean I'm gonna buy

Shaze · 04-05-2004, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
U.S. Online Gambling Policy Violates Law, W.T.O. Rules
By MATT RICHTEL

Published: March 26, 2004

he World Trade Organization, in its first decision on an Internet-related dispute, has ignited a political, cultural and legal tinderbox by ruling that the United States policy prohibiting online gambling violates international trade law.

The ruling, issued by a W.T.O. panel on Wednesday, is being hailed by operators of online casinos based overseas as a major victory that could force America to liberalize laws outlawing their business.

But the Bush administration vowed to appeal the decision, and several members of Congress said they would rather have an international trade war or withdraw from future rounds of the World Trade Organization than have American social policy dictated from abroad.

"It's appalling," said Representative Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican. "It cannot be allowed to stand that another nation can impose its values on the U.S. and make it a trade issue."

The decision stems from a case brought to the W.T.O. in June 2003 by the tiny island nation of Antigua and Barbuda. The nation, which licenses 19 companies that offer sports betting and casino games like blackjack over the Internet, argued that United States trade policy does not prohibit cross-border gambling operations.

Antigua and Barbuda further argued that the United States would be hypocritical to do otherwise since it wants to allow American casino operations to operate land-based and Internet-based units overseas.

It is not clear precisely why the dispute panel of the trade hahahaha ruled in favor of Antigua and Barbuda, since the specifics of its decision remain confidential. The ruling covers only online casinos based on the islands, near Puerto Rico, but other nations could seek similar rulings, legal experts said.

Sir Ronald Sanders, the islands' chief foreign affairs representative, said he thought it was clear from the decision that the United States must liberalize its online gambling regulations or risk being hypocritical about its stance on free trade.

"The U.S. says it wants open competition," he said. "But it only wants free trade when it suits the U.S."

The issue has emerged at the nexus of already complicated legal and social issues muddied further by the borderless reach of the Internet. Millions of Americans now gamble over the Internet, using credit cards or online payment services to wager on sports contests or at games like poker, blackjack and roulette.

Under federal law, it is illegal to offer sports bets over the Internet or to operate other gambling operations not otherwise allowed by individual states. State laws vary widely, with some allowing specific forms of gambling within their borders. Some states criminalize the placing of a bet, but others, like New York, do not make it a crime to bet online.

Online casinos are typically based in Costa Rica or the Caribbean, but also in Britain. Their business continues to grow, but not nearly as fast as industry experts once projected; the slower growth has come in part because many banks do not allow their credit cards to be used to place bets.

Also, the Justice Department has begun to crack down on American broadcasters and publishers that advertise on behalf of online casinos. The crackdown, based on an untested legal theory that American companies are aiding an illegal enterprise, has limited the ability of online casinos to reach Americans.

Sebastian Sinclair, a research analyst who studies the Internet gambling industry, said he doubted the W.T.O. decision would affect America's internal policies and instead could strengthen the resolve of policy makers who want to see the activity prohibited. At the same time, he said the decision showed the gulf in policy on the issue between America and much of the world.

"We're going down one path, and the rest of the world is going down a completely different path," said Mr. Sinclair, an analyst with Christiansen Capital Advisors.

Mr. Sinclair added that the ruling was as a "nonevent" for the Las Vegas casinos and other legal gambling operations in the United States because they risk losing their charters if they open a casino - online or otherwise - that in any way violates the licenses in states where they operate. Those state licenses could, for example, preclude legal casinos from offering wagers to Americans where gambling is not permitted.

Sir Ronald, the official from Antigua and Barbuda, said that two years ago the nation, which has a population of less than 100,000, had 119 online casinos with 5,000 employees. Today, he said, its 30 operations have about 1,000 employees.

He argued that if the United States loses an appeal before the W.T.O. and then continues to prohibit online gambling, Antigua and Barbuda would be within its international rights to raise tariffs on American companies doing business there. Sir Ronald said that since 90 percent of what his country consumes it imports from the United States, the impact could be severe for American companies like AT&T.

He said America has frequently used the trade organization to further its interests, including forcing nations to make internal policies consistent with international law. He did not cite specific examples.

Mr. Goodlatte said that the United States did not expect to change its policy and that the people of Antigua and Barbuda "may have a mini-trade war on their hands."

The congressman, along with Senator John Kyl, a Republican from Arizona, said he would question America's participation in future agreements under the auspices of the World Trade Organization.

David Carruthers, chief executive of Betonsports.com, an Internet sports book operation and casino with headquarters in Costa Rica and back-office operations in Antigua and Barbuda, said he hoped the W.T.O. decision would lead to legalized online gambling in America.

In 2003, he said, his company took 33 million bets from people in North America, most of them in the United States. He said he had 1.2 million registered customers who are United States residents.

"This could be the straw that breaks the camel's back," he said. "It's a victory for the people of Antigua but also for consumers in the United States."

New York Times~

the bush administration are idiots.....i've never voted once in my life but i'll be sure to vote when election comes just so bush doesn't win. i guess the bush administration did one good thing..they got more americans to VOTE!!

BradM · 04-05-2004, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
I'll be on it in an hour or so. I'm looking at what villa in the Caribbean I'm gonna buy

I'm looking at the one beside yours. Weird!

KRL · 04-05-2004, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM

Gambling and prostitution have been here since the beggining of time. Even with prohibition people will ALWAYS gamble.

Of course they will. That doesn't mean its a wise thing to do with your money. I used to gamble all the time. I know how it hooks its claws into your wallet.

KRL · 04-05-2004, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scoreman

So I take it then that I won't find you at the table screaming at the top of your lungs for a yo eleven?

There was a point in time in my early 30's when I was flying to Vegas for as many weekends as I could.

It really is a compulsive obsession in my opinion looking back and a complete waste of money.

Mr.Fiction · 04-05-2004, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaze

the bush administration are idiots.....i've never voted once in my life but i'll be sure to vote when election comes just so bush doesn't win. i guess the bush administration did one good thing..they got more americans to VOTE!!

Republicans want less government in your life - that's why they won't let adults decide if they want to gamble or not.

Doctor Dre · 04-05-2004, 05:33 PM

It's no lost for nohahahaha really ... Except google and yahoo

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pornstar2pac Omaha Hi/Lo Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 17,380	U.S. Online Gambling Policy Violates Law, W.T.O. Rules By MATT RICHTEL Published: March 26, 2004 he World Trade Organization, in its first decision on an Internet-related dispute, has ignited a political, cultural and legal tinderbox by ruling that the United States policy prohibiting online gambling violates international trade law. The ruling, issued by a W.T.O. panel on Wednesday, is being hailed by operators of online casinos based overseas as a major victory that could force America to liberalize laws outlawing their business. But the Bush administration vowed to appeal the decision, and several members of Congress said they would rather have an international trade war or withdraw from future rounds of the World Trade Organization than have American social policy dictated from abroad. "It's appalling," said Representative Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican. "It cannot be allowed to stand that another nation can impose its values on the U.S. and make it a trade issue." The decision stems from a case brought to the W.T.O. in June 2003 by the tiny island nation of Antigua and Barbuda. The nation, which licenses 19 companies that offer sports betting and casino games like blackjack over the Internet, argued that United States trade policy does not prohibit cross-border gambling operations. Antigua and Barbuda further argued that the United States would be hypocritical to do otherwise since it wants to allow American casino operations to operate land-based and Internet-based units overseas. It is not clear precisely why the dispute panel of the trade hahahaha ruled in favor of Antigua and Barbuda, since the specifics of its decision remain confidential. The ruling covers only online casinos based on the islands, near Puerto Rico, but other nations could seek similar rulings, legal experts said. Sir Ronald Sanders, the islands' chief foreign affairs representative, said he thought it was clear from the decision that the United States must liberalize its online gambling regulations or risk being hypocritical about its stance on free trade. "The U.S. says it wants open competition," he said. "But it only wants free trade when it suits the U.S." The issue has emerged at the nexus of already complicated legal and social issues muddied further by the borderless reach of the Internet. Millions of Americans now gamble over the Internet, using credit cards or online payment services to wager on sports contests or at games like poker, blackjack and roulette. Under federal law, it is illegal to offer sports bets over the Internet or to operate other gambling operations not otherwise allowed by individual states. State laws vary widely, with some allowing specific forms of gambling within their borders. Some states criminalize the placing of a bet, but others, like New York, do not make it a crime to bet online. Online casinos are typically based in Costa Rica or the Caribbean, but also in Britain. Their business continues to grow, but not nearly as fast as industry experts once projected; the slower growth has come in part because many banks do not allow their credit cards to be used to place bets. Also, the Justice Department has begun to crack down on American broadcasters and publishers that advertise on behalf of online casinos. The crackdown, based on an untested legal theory that American companies are aiding an illegal enterprise, has limited the ability of online casinos to reach Americans. Sebastian Sinclair, a research analyst who studies the Internet gambling industry, said he doubted the W.T.O. decision would affect America's internal policies and instead could strengthen the resolve of policy makers who want to see the activity prohibited. At the same time, he said the decision showed the gulf in policy on the issue between America and much of the world. "We're going down one path, and the rest of the world is going down a completely different path," said Mr. Sinclair, an analyst with Christiansen Capital Advisors. Mr. Sinclair added that the ruling was as a "nonevent" for the Las Vegas casinos and other legal gambling operations in the United States because they risk losing their charters if they open a casino - online or otherwise - that in any way violates the licenses in states where they operate. Those state licenses could, for example, preclude legal casinos from offering wagers to Americans where gambling is not permitted. Sir Ronald, the official from Antigua and Barbuda, said that two years ago the nation, which has a population of less than 100,000, had 119 online casinos with 5,000 employees. Today, he said, its 30 operations have about 1,000 employees. He argued that if the United States loses an appeal before the W.T.O. and then continues to prohibit online gambling, Antigua and Barbuda would be within its international rights to raise tariffs on American companies doing business there. Sir Ronald said that since 90 percent of what his country consumes it imports from the United States, the impact could be severe for American companies like AT&T. He said America has frequently used the trade organization to further its interests, including forcing nations to make internal policies consistent with international law. He did not cite specific examples. Mr. Goodlatte said that the United States did not expect to change its policy and that the people of Antigua and Barbuda "may have a mini-trade war on their hands." The congressman, along with Senator John Kyl, a Republican from Arizona, said he would question America's participation in future agreements under the auspices of the World Trade Organization. David Carruthers, chief executive of Betonsports.com, an Internet sports book operation and casino with headquarters in Costa Rica and back-office operations in Antigua and Barbuda, said he hoped the W.T.O. decision would lead to legalized online gambling in America. In 2003, he said, his company took 33 million bets from people in North America, most of them in the United States. He said he had 1.2 million registered customers who are United States residents. "This could be the straw that breaks the camel's back," he said. "It's a victory for the people of Antigua but also for consumers in the United States." New York Times~ __________________ Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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