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Fletch XXX · 04-05-2004, 10:00 AM

to PROGRAM OWNERS:

seriously.

i hold back my tongue on some shit around here.

as a designer, I dont have time to work my projects like some do, so I focus on slower results but more solid.

such as search engine traffic, which I have focused on for 2 years now, along side AVS etc...

Some of you runnign your mouth cant convert traffic that I get with filtered SE traffic.

I have results showing under 1:100 on MULTIPLE sponsors, since I dont have loads and loads of shit traffic, it all being SE, my conversions are great.

Yet somewhow, I always see a few 1:2800 on seriously targetted keywords and phrases.

I hate leaving up links to this shit.

checking my stats and it sucks to see good sponsors suck ass

sometimes I wish i wasnt such a nice guy and just put you fucking mouth running shit talkers in place.

anyway.

good morning

JohnnyUtah · 04-05-2004, 10:01 AM

Just laying it down like it is... I love it

Porn Mickey · 04-05-2004, 10:03 AM

sometimes the truth hurts

Steve · 04-05-2004, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
to PROGRAM OWNERS:

seriously.

i hold back my tongue on some shit around here.

as a designer, I dont have time to work my projects like some do, so I focus on slower results but more solid.

such as search engine traffic, which I have focused on for 2 years now, along side AVS etc...

Some of you runnign your mouth cant convert traffic that I get with filtered SE traffic.

I have results showing under 1:100 on MULTIPLE sponsors, since I dont have loads and loads of shit traffic, it all being SE, my conversions are great.

Yet somewhow, I always see a few 1:2800 on seriously targetted keywords and phrases.

I hate leaving up links to this shit.

checking my stats and it sucks to see good sponsors suck ass

sometimes I wish i wasnt such a nice guy and just put you fucking mouth running shit talkers in place.

anyway.

good morning

my girl and I did that a few years back
it would be easier to just praise the good ones - but then you'd be letteing the cat out of the bag

DrewKole · 04-05-2004, 10:05 AM

Eh... No doubt.

Im tired of the convert at 1:200 bullshit... it happens, but it doesnt happen for everyone, so dont play like it is.

I start promoting a program because of the features, and the site itself, not because you claim that everyone is making phat bank with it, and we're gonna be millionaires.

exspamr · 04-05-2004, 10:10 AM

i thought this thread was gonna be about mr bling bling himself: oracle porn

DR_PHIL · 04-05-2004, 10:13 AM

every post like that is like a car salesman that got his first sale his first day on the job...then didnt get another one the rest of the month

Fletch XXX · 04-05-2004, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by exspamr
i thought this thread was gonna be about mr bling bling himself: oracle porn

no, this is specifically to sponsors who post and run their mouth on this board that I have pushed for awhile now and have generated Se traffic to.

I check stats on one program 1:109

check the site which I think is going to be doing great considering, the number of good SE placements and results etc...

then its like 1:2800

some of these dumb ass wannabe program owners need to shut the fuck up.

i cant stand seeing people talk shit and i know for a fact i (at one time) was dumping thousands of hits a day, targetted keywords, niches out etc.

this is not about a person, its about the almighty program owners who really dont know shit and just think "getting webmasters" and acting like Big Shit on the boards makes a good program.

well, it doesnt.

gornyhuy · 04-05-2004, 10:20 AM

I hate that shit. So many programs and you can't believe a fucking thing they say or any numbers that they post because you KNOW this board is just a big fucking boiler room for them.

Whenever I find solid sponsors that match their words or even do better I'm downright amazed and so happy that I do everything I can to help them and promote them.

It would be nice if there were a way to get the word out on the fuck-nuts without exposing and therefore saturating all my good sponsors.

exspamr · 04-05-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

no, this is specifically to sponsors who post and run their mouth on this board that I have pushed for awhile now and have generated Se traffic to.

I check stats on one program 1:109

check the site which I think is going to be doing great considering, the number of good SE placements and results etc...

then its like 1:2800

some of these dumb ass wannabe program owners need to shut the fuck up.

i cant stand seeing people talk shit and i know for a fact i (at one time) was dumping thousands of hits a day, targetted keywords, niches out etc.

this is not about a person, its about the almighty program owners who really dont know shit and just think "getting webmasters" and acting like Big Shit on the boards makes a good program.

well, it doesnt.

1:2800 for targeted traffic would suggest shaving to me

Fletch XXX · 04-05-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by exspamr

1:2800 for targeted traffic would suggest shaving to me

even through ccbill?

Steve · 04-05-2004, 10:23 AM

You know what I think when I see crap ratios coming off of good traffic sources?

stats by Gilette

I also think this when I read program owners saying how they see 1:250 across the boards, but everyone I talk to see 1:2000 or worse. And if the guy bragging uses MPA2 it makes my eye twitch.

Juicy D. Links · 04-05-2004, 10:24 AM

Fletch you need to try MassiveQBucks.com we do 1:45 across the board even with garbage traffic

Fletch XXX · 04-05-2004, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
You know what I think when I see crap ratios coming off of good traffic sources?

stats by Gilette

I also think this when I read program owners saying how they see 1:250 across the boards, but everyone I talk to see 1:2000 or worse. And if the guy bragging uses MPA2 it makes my eye twitch.

what i have in mind are ccbill users.

exspamr · 04-05-2004, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

even through ccbill?

well, lets say this... you obviously know your shit enough to be able to look at the tours of sites you are going to promote and tell if the tours are decent enough to be worthwhile, the traffic is targetted so therefore, what else could it be?

ive seen rat piss that converts better than that

cherrylula · 04-05-2004, 10:35 AM

yeah its time to clean up lots and lots of links.

Especially since lots of fresh yahoo traffic has been coming around, the proof is in the numbers.

Fletch XXX · 04-05-2004, 10:36 AM

Precisely.

there is no reason for this.

The tour, SHOULD convert, the content is EXCLUSIVE and UNIQUE, yet the results plainly suck.

Ive told myself "eh maybe its ccbill scrub etc"

well if thats the case, either way I am beginning to drop links to sponsors and send the traffic to my own shit.

best thing is, I have focused on SE traffic for ahile and now can easily change out pages with the same keywords and send them to my town tour.

I am slowly moving away from sponsors anyway.

i have seen the difference in ratios.

anyone want to see that YOU ARE BEING SHAVED?

get your own thing running and you can SEE THE DIFFERENCE

http://tour1.nakedcollegegirls.tv

fuck shaving sponsors.

jimmyf · 04-05-2004, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve
You know what I think when I see crap ratios coming off of good traffic sources?

stats by Gilette

I also think this when I read program owners saying how they see 1:250 across the boards, but everyone I talk to see 1:2000 or worse. And if the guy bragging uses MPA2 it makes my eye twitch.

good one

Meloman · 04-05-2004, 10:50 AM

There's a ton of reasons why something converts better than others.

1. What's the keyword phrase your ranking on? Generic keywords are gonna convert differently that say a targeted site title lookup. A search for "Hustler Online" or "Karas Adult Playgroud" will certainly convert differently that a random "sex" lookup.

2. What is your actual title and description showing on the SE? Does it have the word "free"?

3. What kind of page is actually ranking? Full page ad, free site or TGP gallery?

3. Who's the sponsor processing with? Sometimes 1 processor will scrub harder than others.

4. What's the difference in sponsor tours? A reality site with a ton of free clips or a softcore tour? I've personaly found that hardcore reality tours don't do well for me off generic SE traffic.

5. What's the SE position on the page? #1 is gonna get the most traffic and probably the most sales BUT the ratio may not be the best cause it's getting bombed with traffic. #5 is a bit more hidden in the page and will get less more targeted traffic and therefore have a better ratio.

There's a lot of factors on what makes 1 site convert better than another, yet the opposite will be true with a different webmaster.

The #1 thing I've found running exit traffic is that you really need to tweak things over and over to get them converting great. Sometimes you just need to choose a different site from the programs lineup. Some sites convert differently for different people. I've taken a teen site and seen 1/800 and then tried out a different one from the same sponsor and got 1/200.

Guess all I'm saying is that a bad ratio doesn't nessarily mean shaving is going on.

Just my

TheDoc · 04-05-2004, 10:53 AM

Chances are they arnt shaving.. But .... who knows.

DarkJedi · 04-05-2004, 10:58 AM

Fletch, wanna do some PR link exchanges ?
If so, hit me up - 30144710.

High Quality · 04-05-2004, 11:00 AM

1:2800 on SE Traffic? HOLY SHIT!

TDF · 04-05-2004, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
There's a ton of reasons why something converts better than others.

1. What's the keyword phrase your ranking on? Generic keywords are gonna convert differently that say a targeted site title lookup. A search for "Hustler Online" or "Karas Adult Playgroud" will certainly convert differently that a random "sex" lookup.

2. What is your actual title and description showing on the SE? Does it have the word "free"?

3. What kind of page is actually ranking? Full page ad, free site or TGP gallery?

3. Who's the sponsor processing with? Sometimes 1 processor will scrub harder than others.

4. What's the difference in sponsor tours? A reality site with a ton of free clips or a softcore tour? I've personaly found that hardcore reality tours don't do well for me off generic SE traffic.

There's a lot of factors on what makes 1 site convert better than another, yet the opposite will be true with a different webmaster.

The #1 thing I've found running exit traffic is that you really need to tweak things over and over to get them converting great. Sometimes you just need to choose a different site from the programs lineup. Some sites convert differently for different people. I've taken a teen site and seen 1/800 and then tried out a different one from the same sponsor and got 1/200.

Guess all I'm saying is that a bad ratio doesn't nessarily mean shaving is going on.

Just my

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Joesho · 04-05-2004, 11:07 AM

right on fletchXXX

Layin it down straight just like always!

Fletch XXX · 04-05-2004, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by High Quality
1:2800 on SE Traffic? HOLY SHIT!

I have traffic being filtered through AVS, to FPA, fucking PRIMO clicks.

<img src=http://www.*****************.com/images/yoursitesucks.gif border="1">

reason I said 2800 was I gave them the benefit of the doubt.

since I am running my traffic through an AVS, THEN to a gallery inside, THEN to an FPA.

the clicks are HIGHLY targetted.

i notice the site rebills, but its difficult to "get them in the first time"

and no, its not "free teen pics" type of traffic.

some of this traffic is even niched by the girls name.

Peter Romero · 04-05-2004, 11:08 AM

Fletch please contact me for some design/SE/affiliate program work. [email protected] 818-360-4352 or ICQ below.

Thanks

Meloman · 04-05-2004, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I have traffic being filtered through AVS, to FPA, fucking PRIMO clicks.

<img src=http://www.*****************.com/images/yoursitesucks.gif border="1">

reason I said 2800 was I gave them the benefit of the doubt.

since I am running my traffic through an AVS, THEN to a gallery inside, THEN to an FPA.

the clicks are HIGHLY targetted.

i notice the site rebills, but its difficult to "get them in the first time"

and no, its not "free teen pics" type of traffic.

some of this traffic is even niched by the girls name.

Wow, I really like your filtering technique. Very nice and very, very smart!

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04-05-2004, 10:20 AM	#9
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	I hate that shit. So many programs and you can't believe a fucking thing they say or any numbers that they post because you KNOW this board is just a big fucking boiler room for them. Whenever I find solid sponsors that match their words or even do better I'm downright amazed and so happy that I do everything I can to help them and promote them. It would be nice if there were a way to get the word out on the fuck-nuts without exposing and therefore saturating all my good sponsors. __________________ icq:159548293

04-05-2004, 10:36 AM	#17
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Precisely. there is no reason for this. The tour, SHOULD convert, the content is EXCLUSIVE and UNIQUE, yet the results plainly suck. Ive told myself "eh maybe its ccbill scrub etc" well if thats the case, either way I am beginning to drop links to sponsors and send the traffic to my own shit. best thing is, I have focused on SE traffic for ahile and now can easily change out pages with the same keywords and send them to my town tour. I am slowly moving away from sponsors anyway. i have seen the difference in ratios. anyone want to see that YOU ARE BEING SHAVED? get your own thing running and you can SEE THE DIFFERENCE http://tour1.nakedcollegegirls.tv fuck shaving sponsors. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

04-05-2004, 10:50 AM	#19
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	There's a ton of reasons why something converts better than others. 1. What's the keyword phrase your ranking on? Generic keywords are gonna convert differently that say a targeted site title lookup. A search for "Hustler Online" or "Karas Adult Playgroud" will certainly convert differently that a random "sex" lookup. 2. What is your actual title and description showing on the SE? Does it have the word "free"? 3. What kind of page is actually ranking? Full page ad, free site or TGP gallery? 3. Who's the sponsor processing with? Sometimes 1 processor will scrub harder than others. 4. What's the difference in sponsor tours? A reality site with a ton of free clips or a softcore tour? I've personaly found that hardcore reality tours don't do well for me off generic SE traffic. 5. What's the SE position on the page? #1 is gonna get the most traffic and probably the most sales BUT the ratio may not be the best cause it's getting bombed with traffic. #5 is a bit more hidden in the page and will get less more targeted traffic and therefore have a better ratio. There's a lot of factors on what makes 1 site convert better than another, yet the opposite will be true with a different webmaster. The #1 thing I've found running exit traffic is that you really need to tweak things over and over to get them converting great. Sometimes you just need to choose a different site from the programs lineup. Some sites convert differently for different people. I've taken a teen site and seen 1/800 and then tried out a different one from the same sponsor and got 1/200. Guess all I'm saying is that a bad ratio doesn't nessarily mean shaving is going on. Just my Last edited by Meloman; 04-05-2004 at 11:03 AM..

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04-05-2004, 10:00 AM	#1
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	SOme Of You Who Brag Yet Dont Convert - Sick Of Seeing Your Posts to PROGRAM OWNERS: seriously. i hold back my tongue on some shit around here. as a designer, I dont have time to work my projects like some do, so I focus on slower results but more solid. such as search engine traffic, which I have focused on for 2 years now, along side AVS etc... Some of you runnign your mouth cant convert traffic that I get with filtered SE traffic. I have results showing under 1:100 on MULTIPLE sponsors, since I dont have loads and loads of shit traffic, it all being SE, my conversions are great. Yet somewhow, I always see a few 1:2800 on seriously targetted keywords and phrases. I hate leaving up links to this shit. checking my stats and it sucks to see good sponsors suck ass sometimes I wish i wasnt such a nice guy and just put you fucking mouth running shit talkers in place. anyway. good morning __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me Last edited by Fletch XXX; 04-05-2004 at 10:02 AM..

04-05-2004, 10:01 AM	#2
JohnnyUtah Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 826	Just laying it down like it is... I love it

04-05-2004, 10:05 AM	#5
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Eh... No doubt. Im tired of the convert at 1:200 bullshit... it happens, but it doesnt happen for everyone, so dont play like it is. I start promoting a program because of the features, and the site itself, not because you claim that everyone is making phat bank with it, and we're gonna be millionaires.

04-05-2004, 10:10 AM	#6
exspamr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,427	i thought this thread was gonna be about mr bling bling himself: oracle porn

04-05-2004, 10:13 AM	#7
DR_PHIL Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Never visits the same thread twice Posts: 4,099	every post like that is like a car salesman that got his first sale his first day on the job...then didnt get another one the rest of the month

04-05-2004, 10:23 AM	#12
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	You know what I think when I see crap ratios coming off of good traffic sources? stats by Gilette I also think this when I read program owners saying how they see 1:250 across the boards, but everyone I talk to see 1:2000 or worse. And if the guy bragging uses MPA2 it makes my eye twitch.

04-05-2004, 10:24 AM	#13
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Fletch you need to try MassiveQBucks.com we do 1:45 across the board even with garbage traffic

04-05-2004, 10:35 AM	#16
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	yeah its time to clean up lots and lots of links. Especially since lots of fresh yahoo traffic has been coming around, the proof is in the numbers.

04-05-2004, 10:58 AM	#21
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04-05-2004, 11:00 AM	#22
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04-05-2004, 11:08 AM	#26
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