Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

You don't advantage of that and move to warmer climes!

OMG! Are you serious? They said that! I thought they were trustworthy and stuff!

Wow, looks like im pulling links to sponsers who use Ibill. :(

lol the web900 thing went down a LONG time ago. but pull those links...

you are next. Be reading your ibill post one day.:Graucho

Everyhahahaha had a contract with iBill, not ATT&T (or who ever was doing the 900 Billing for iBill). iBill should of at least setup some type of monthly payment to pay everyhahahaha what they owe(d). Alot of companies still payed out to their affiliates for the 900 Billing. That was to keep their reputation good. iBill apperantly doesn't care about their reputation.

My billing company will be offering 900 Billing. If I don't get the money from MCI, I would still payout what is owed. Even if it meant working out a payment plan with each company. It's just bad business, to say to your clients "tough luck", but we want to keep you as a customer.

Have you asked your billing company if they dont get paid by the phone company will you still get your money ? I highly doubt it. These billing companies process transactions, they are not a insurance policy. I will go back to the sales analogy, if you are in a commision setting until the customer pays you dont get paid. Its that simple and I go back to my original statement if you didnt get paid for 900 why did you keep the option up?

When I was talking about my billing company, I was talking about the billing company I own "PayWide Billing". If my billing company "PayWide Billing" didn't get paid for 900 Billing like what happened to iBill, my company would still payout to my customers. My customers have a contract with my company, not the company that my company does the 900 Billing through.

I agree that if you don't get paid, you should drop it. But with 900 Billing, it takes around 2 months before finding out that your not getting paid.

These billing companies process transactions for their customers and they are responsible for paying their customers what their customers are owed. Just because AT&T didn't pay iBill, doesn't all of a sudden relieve iBill of their debt to their customers.

:glugglug

50 New Ibills :glugglug

If my billing company didn't get the 900 payments from the telco, we would probably pay each webmaster one million dollars for the inconvenience.



Sarcasm aside, its very easy to SAY that your not-yet-live billing company would pay webmasters on those 900 charges (even though you would have been unable to collect). But when it comes right down to it, i don't think any start up processor with any decent amount of volume in those type of sales would have "made good".




On the other hand... in Ibill's situation I have to agree with Quiet that it was a bad move/decision on their part.

Ibill was #1 for many, many years and has made a considerable amount of money off the webmasters they processed for.

Even though Ibill probably had zero liability to pay for the uncollected web900 revenues, it would have probably been a good marketing decision to do so.

If they consider all the accounts they lost by not settling the web900 balances (that Ibill probably wasn't really liable for) and all the negative publicity they got when smaller billing companies who haven't been around nearly as long were paying (:warning who those would be I don't know.. but people made references)

I just think if I ran the Ibill PR machine I would have definitely looked a little closer at the angle of letting everyone know that they don't HAVE to pay on the web900, but because of long standing business relationships and everything else... we're still going to pay you off & take the hit ourselves.

Hell, it would probably STILL be a good idea.... they could say "New management of the New Ibill has decided to settle old unpaid web900 balances..." with an explaination that they themselves still haven't been paid for them of course.

With all the adult forums out there right now, you probably couldn't buy better exposure (figure cost of running banner ads for 12 months everywhere vs paying web900 and having webmasters telling people how honorable Ibill is etc)





Hey Lightspeed... If you don't mind sharing what was your unpaid web900 balance?

(I intentionally say unpaid, not owed -- I don't really feel Ibill OWES it, but that it would have been smart to PAY it anyway.)

Either way Web 900 users should pay up...

Fuck IBILL :feels-hot

I guess the real question is -- Did MCI collect the revenues?

If MCI collected them then shouldn't Ibill be entitled to them?

Or did MCI grab the last payment owed to Ibill as some sort of penalty?

Hmm... or did MCI go bankrupt?


edit: (It was MCI wasn't it??)

worldcom got fucked. mci got fucked, then i guess they passed it to ibill, who passed it to the end users

All the guys here who still love Ibill should do this test and then re post the results.

Set up your join page with CCbill, Epoch and Ibill. When you have 1000 members join through each processor compare the refunds and charge backs for each, i think you will find like us and others who have posted on GFY that Ibills refund levels and charge backs are very, very high compared to the others. Next week we are removing all Ibill buttons from all our sites and advise anyone serious about this business to do the same.

If you are still using Ibill you owe it to yourself to at least try CCbill and Epoch Just the customer support alone is reason to drop Ibill like a sack full of shit !

Lightspeed:

I've been getting strange e-mails from reps all year and when I checked, my rebills were 0.

I really don't know where the rebills went that I was paying $750 a year to collect.

Nohahahaha called. :(

"Nohahahaha called me."

Should read; "I was not called by anyone at the company."

Weird board stuff. :1orglaugh

<< I just think if I ran the Ibill PR machine >>

iBill PR machine?
now THAT is a hahahahahahahahaha ;-)