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Old 04-03-2004, 11:41 PM   #1
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what the holy fuck!?!?!?!

now this is some bullshit.

Am watching the news, and they are talking about how Mexicans wait along the border to jump the border into the US. Sometimes they have to wait weeks for an opportunity when the Border Patrol is distracted, and sometimes they die out in the elements in their wait.

So, what is the Mexican government doing about this? They have officers and doctors patrolling the border so they can offer food and medical assistance to them while they wait to make their move across the border!!

This is bullshit if you ask me.

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Old 04-03-2004, 11:43 PM   #2
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That is pretty sad, instead of having doctors there and shit, why dont they work on making it a better place to live for their own people?
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:43 PM   #3
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wow, amazing how some goverment assist in illegal things..
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:44 PM   #4
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wow, amazing how some goverment assist in illegal things..
Yeah no kidding...the Mexican government probably wants them about as much as we do though.
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thats just total bullshit

who thinks up the ingenious plans?
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:51 PM   #6
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if we could just get them to stop blaring that mariachi music outta their car stereos.. .... the world would be a better place.
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:55 PM   #7
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wow, amazing how some goverment assist in illegal things..
i dont think its illegal to leave mexico
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You never been down on the border? There are so many ways into the US its a total joke.

They don't want to really stop it because the US economy depends on these people that will do grunt work in fields and factories without any labor rights for below minimum wages.

Its a real discrace that it still goes on.

In my 20's I worked in the LA garment district. There were sweatshops were the illegals were only being paid 10 cents per garment for all the sewing work.
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Aren't they happy making $2 an hour in a factory that used to pay American workers $15 an hour? Did we ship American jobs to Mexico in vain?
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You never been down on the border? There are so many ways into the US its a total joke.

They don't want to really stop it because the US economy depends on these people that will do grunt work in fields and factories without any labor rights for below minimum wages.

Its a real discrace that it still goes on.

In my 20's I worked in the LA garment district. There were sweatshops were the illegals were only being paid 10 cents per garment for all the sewing work.
And yet it is okay to outsource your work for pennies on the dollar? I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.
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Old 04-04-2004, 12:03 AM   #11
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i dont think its illegal to leave mexico
it is if you are going across a un specified crossing point.. they are illegaly arriving in the states.. that is why there are border patrol and customs agents.. not just for show but for a reason, avoiding them and using other ways to get across is illegal
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i can't even figure out what's on sale at my local grocery store because all of the signs are in spanish.... blah!!!!!!
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That is pretty sad, instead of having doctors there and shit, why dont they work on making it a better place to live for their own people?
That is an excellent point.
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i dont think its illegal to leave mexico
Please tell me you aren't that ignorant.
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Yeah, I have been to the border, and there are many reasons to let the Mexicans thru legally with their work visas, but to actively support them in their quest to cross the border illegally is bullshit.

And it is the Mexican government that is doing this, not the US government. If we wanted them across that badly we would not bother patrolling the borders trying to keep them out would we?
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I remember reading that the US has ~ 10 million illegal immigrants working there, and that if they all disappeared tomorrow the US economy would collapse.

YMMV.
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i can't even figure out what's on sale at my local grocery store because all of the signs are in spanish.... blah!!!!!!
Move out of the barrios and that won't be a problem for you
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Move out of the barrios and that won't be a problem for you
Yeah, I was going to suggest something along those lines
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I remember reading that the US has ~ 10 million illegal immigrants working there, and that if they all disappeared tomorrow the US economy would collapse.

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I don't know if its that much but the economy would collapse. I bet none of these bitches on the boards would go out and pick our fruit or wash my car
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I remember reading that the US has ~ 10 million illegal immigrants working there, and that if they all disappeared tomorrow the US economy would collapse.

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Well, if you read it somewhere it must be true.
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WOW.
In a chat room full of really smart people I have finally found the flaw. That being that ya'll are a bunch of stupid ignorant fuckers. Lets think about things critically...
1. Why would there be doctors helping out those who are crossing the border? If people want to do something and put their hearts to it, they are going to do it. The people crossing the border know all of the risks that they have to take. They see it in the news everyday.
2. Why are people crossing the border illegally? Because of the fact that we as a country have made up the "american dream". I am not quite sure what this is yet but this is the only country in the world where people actually have the opportunity to make something of themselves. We as a country have oppressed many other people, but this country is still full of hope.
3. why have we exported jobs into mexico? Big corportate companies figured out that if they have people working for them in a different country that they wont have to pay as many taxes as they would otherwise. that means more money in their pockets. Now is it just to have these "sweat shops"? I sure dont think so, but this is just another loop hole that people use to get away with things.
Now I would suggest that all of you who have made racist and oppressive statements to take your heads out of your ass's and think about things critically. If you dont have an educated statement to make, then i sugguest to keep your mouths shut, you sound like an asshole.
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In a chat room full of really smart people I have finally found the flaw. That being that ya'll are a bunch of stupid ignorant fuckers. Lets think about things critically...
1. Why would there be doctors helping out those who are crossing the border? If people want to do something and put their hearts to it, they are going to do it. The people crossing the border know all of the risks that they have to take. They see it in the news everyday.
2. Why are people crossing the border illegally? Because of the fact that we as a country have made up the "american dream". I am not quite sure what this is yet but this is the only country in the world where people actually have the opportunity to make something of themselves. We as a country have oppressed many other people, but this country is still full of hope.
3. why have we exported jobs into mexico? Big corportate companies figured out that if they have people working for them in a different country that they wont have to pay as many taxes as they would otherwise. that means more money in their pockets. Now is it just to have these "sweat shops"? I sure dont think so, but this is just another loop hole that people use to get away with things.
Now I would suggest that all of you who have made racist and oppressive statements to take your heads out of your ass's and think about things critically. If you dont have an educated statement to make, then i sugguest to keep your mouths shut, you sound like an asshole.
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If I can borrow from the old SNL "Point-Counterpoint" . . . . PiTaAnGeL, you ignorant slut.

Fuck you. Using your thought process we should be providing free flying lessons to Al Queda members, or perhaps condoms to prisoners. I mean if people want to do something and put their hearts to it, they are going to do it.

The Mexican government should be arresting the people sitting on the border waiting to illegally enter the US for loitering, or conspiracy. They should not be helping them survive their eventual crime. That is aiding and abetting in my book.
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you should pick up a book and educate yourself before making stupid remarks like you have been. I never said that i supported what they were doing, i was just pointing out what was obvious. and as far as worrying about your pocket book, you should be worrying about all the people who are draining out the money that should be available to you, the tax payers. You should be worrying about how your government spends their money. The government should do something to change what is happening now, instead of paying people in commisions millions of tax dollars for someone to say "we have a problem" and not do anything to change the situation.
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when people say "sitting and waiting" they dont mean they are sitting by the big tall fence waiting for a chance to cross the border you stupid mother fucker. they dont mean it literally. Now if you are going to take everything at face value, there is nothing that i can do to help you.
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when people say "sitting and waiting" they dont mean they are sitting by the big tall fence waiting for a chance to cross the border you stupid mother fucker. they dont mean it literally. Now if you are going to take everything at face value, there is nothing that i can do to help you.
okay, you truly are an ignorant slut. They are just sitting along the fence waiting for a chance to cross over. That is why I have a problem with it.

Did you happen to read my initial post? Let me quote myself, "They have officers and doctors patrolling the border so they can offer food and medical assistance to them while they wait to make their move across the border!!

The fucking news team was there, on the fucking border, talking to the Mexicans that were waiting for their chance to break thru the fence, and talking to the Mexican officials that are there helping them.

They are concerned that their citizens are getting, robbed, raped, and sick, while they are sitting out in the brush, in the dark, so they are protecting them, feeding them, and giving them medical aid, while they wait to illegally cross the border.

While I agree that people should not be mugged, or left to die out in the desert, the Mexican goverment is aiding and abetting in a criminal activity.
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when people say "sitting and waiting" they dont mean they are sitting by the big tall fence waiting for a chance to cross the border you stupid mother fucker. they dont mean it literally. Now if you are going to take everything at face value, there is nothing that i can do to help you.
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so you are a lurker and an idiot? or are just hoping you will get some cyber sex by agreeing with her? trust me, you are backing the wrong side this time, she doesn't know what she is talking about
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so you are a lurker and an idiot? or are just hoping you will get some cyber sex by agreeing with her? trust me, you are backing the wrong side this time, she doesn't know what she is talking about
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I think that you have some underlying issues that you need to take care of. You seem to be very angry about something, but I cant figure out what. I understand that you dont like that people die, none of us do. I dont agree with killing people at all but guess what our army does it all the time. So why dont you sit down, have a cup of tea and work out your anger issues before you go out and do something drastic. Hey you know what, I heard that newspapers have good information in them as well. If you want to learn about the massacre of people, why dont you pick up a book called "A Different Mirror" by Takaki or maybe the booked called "what my teacher never told me". I dont think that your teachers told you much or maybe you didnt get it, since you take things at face value. There is no reasoning with angry people. you need to cool off, but thanks for your time.
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he's angry because mexicans gang-raped his daughter when she was 14.
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I think that you have some underlying issues that you need to take care of. You seem to be very angry about something, but I cant figure out what. I understand that you dont like that people die, none of us do. I dont agree with killing people at all but guess what our army does it all the time. So why dont you sit down, have a cup of tea and work out your anger issues before you go out and do something drastic. Hey you know what, I heard that newspapers have good information in them as well. If you want to learn about the massacre of people, why dont you pick up a book called "A Different Mirror" by Takaki or maybe the booked called "what my teacher never told me". I dont think that your teachers told you much or maybe you didnt get it, since you take things at face value. There is no reasoning with angry people. you need to cool off, but thanks for your time.
okay, so you have family that is still trying to make it across the border, I can appreciate that. Just have them apply for a work visa.

This has nothing to do with massacres or the American government. Why do you refuse to accept facts? I was watching the report as I was typing it, I know what I saw, and what they said. Deal with it.

Now don't you have some motel room to go clean or something?
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You are old now and you are probably going to die before I do, so I dont have to worry about people like you with your stupid racist slurs. All that I am doing is advocating for human rights-you might not know what those are. As, for you. you are going to die an old stupid ignorant angry person. why dont you just smile and worry about yourself. I am amazed at the fact that you have made it this far. Congratulations!
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I mean what racist slurs?
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"dont you have some motel rooms to go clean or something". those types of stupid racial slurs. thats ok though, you are not at fault that you dont understant things. You grew up in a different era, the one where oppression was still acceptable. it is your choice if you want to keep being ignorant, but there are many people who are not going to follow. like i said, why dont you pick up a book and educate you're self. You can even do it while you are sitting at the throne. its cheap and convenient and it will benefit your life.
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now this is some bullshit.

Am watching the news, and they are talking about how Mexicans wait along the border to jump the border into the US. Sometimes they have to wait weeks for an opportunity when the Border Patrol is distracted, and sometimes they die out in the elements in their wait.

So, what is the Mexican government doing about this? They have officers and doctors patrolling the border so they can offer food and medical assistance to them while they wait to make their move across the border!!

This is bullshit if you ask me.

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I live in Arizona. All you ever see on the news is how a family of mexicans died trying to cross the border. the sad thing is...is that our border patrol can shoot them at will, and it has happened.

I dont know if i like that idea, but then again...the hoppers arent ALL friendly and just trying to feed their families.
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that is a racial slur? boy, must have hit pretty close to home, huh?
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when people say "sitting and waiting" they dont mean they are sitting by the big tall fence waiting for a chance to cross the border you stupid mother fucker. they dont mean it literally. Now if you are going to take everything at face value, there is nothing that i can do to help you.
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that is pathetic. Pay doctors more money to give food and water, but do nothing about the job situation in Mexico...
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my point was just proven. why dont you just go crawl in your happy little hole and wait till someone comes to talk to you. you can be as angry as you want there and the only person who has to her youre stupid ideas is youreself and anyone else who would want to salvage their sanity. good luck.
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I live in Arizona. All you ever see on the news is how a family of mexicans died trying to cross the border. the sad thing is...is that our border patrol can shoot them at will, and it has happened.

I dont know if i like that idea, but then again...the hoppers arent ALL friendly and just trying to feed their families.
They can shoot at will in AZ? Now that is news to me, you have a link to back up this assertion?

Again, this has nothing to do with the Americasn government, or our border patrol, it is the Mexican governemt aiding and abetting their citizens to illegally cross the border into the US.

What do you think would happen if you wanted to go to Germany, without a passport or visa, and the US government assisted you?
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no it is not from experience. i happen to have done research on this topic. sounds like you need some education yourself.
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my point was just proven. why dont you just go crawl in your happy little hole and wait till someone comes to talk to you. you can be as angry as you want there and the only person who has to her youre stupid ideas is youreself and anyone else who would want to salvage their sanity. good luck.
Your point was proven to whom? Yourself? Okay, whatever you say senorita.
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:43 AM   #45
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Baddog- looks to me like you have someone that will come visit you in your angry hole- Kali.
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:43 AM   #46
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no it is not from experience. i happen to have done research on this topic. sounds like you need some education yourself.
I was fuckin with ya. See thats the great thing about boards, the newbies always take shit seriously
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Old 04-04-2004, 01:50 AM   #47
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no it is not from experience. i happen to have done research on this topic. sounds like you need some education yourself.
You are so full of shit your eyes are brown. Your research must have been very biased and slovenly done if you don't think there are people literally sitting by a tall fence waiting for the opportunity to cross the border.
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Old 04-04-2004, 02:19 AM   #49
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These idiots cross over in the summer when it's 110 degrees, then the Mexican government condemns the U.S. when they die from the heat.
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Old 04-04-2004, 02:51 AM   #50
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it is if you are going across a un specified crossing point.. they are illegaly arriving in the states.. that is why there are border patrol and customs agents.. not just for show but for a reason, avoiding them and using other ways to get across is illegal
they always get away with it though.
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