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Old 04-03-2004, 04:30 AM   #1
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we do NOT pay webmasters

for shit like this.
http://members.shaw.ca/shrady/dollartrials.htm

cant wait till he comes running to GFY about not getting paid

i love america
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:32 AM   #2
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hey thats my page, i better get my money
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:33 AM   #3
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:33 AM   #4
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For telling people where the cancel link is?


Watch it, chief.
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:34 AM   #5
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its like telli9ng them to cancel after a 3 day trial

i'd cancel them too
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:37 AM   #6
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Is he getting many signups?
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:37 AM   #7
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I got caught.



I looked more and that one is borderline to me. I can honestly see both sides.

Ah well -- doesn't matter to me.
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:39 AM   #8
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wtf, thats stupid shit.
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:39 AM   #9
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I got caught.



I looked more and that one is borderline to me. I can honestly see both sides.

Ah well -- doesn't matter to me.
borderline?

borderline what?

they guy tells them to cancel after they join

are you high?
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:40 AM   #10
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:44 AM   #11
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I got caught.



I looked more and that one is borderline to me. I can honestly see both sides.

Ah well -- doesn't matter to me.
if everybody does this pps payouts will eventually be lowered to the actual trial value

why don't you tell your fresh revshare members to cancel after 3 days
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:45 AM   #12
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Please Note: All Sites Include Hassle Free Cancellation Process, GUARANTEED !!!

To Cancel your membership, click on the support link on the bottom of the page you signed up on. Click the cancel membership button, and your done, Hassle Free!!!!!

I have verified the above process myself, with my own personal credit card. The above statements are accurate!!



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they guy tells them to cancel after they join

are you high?
He tells them how to... he doesn't tell them to.

I see your point, though.

The 'ENJOY YOUR FREE PORN' line would have sealed his fate with me as well.
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:45 AM   #13
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:45 AM   #14
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he gets an 'A' for effort though!
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:47 AM   #15
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Cut that bastards account without pay!
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Old 04-03-2004, 04:48 AM   #16
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Old 04-03-2004, 05:32 AM   #17
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I saw on with Silvercash, that the guy was paying 5 bucks then you would email with the sign up details and he would pay.
He got $35.00 per sign up they got $5.00
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Old 04-03-2004, 06:27 AM   #18
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Old 04-03-2004, 06:44 AM   #19
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Pimpdog, you terminated my account.
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Old 04-03-2004, 06:47 AM   #20
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Old 04-03-2004, 07:07 AM   #21
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He's also using his isp hosting which does not allow adult.
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Old 04-03-2004, 07:15 AM   #22
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and he used: name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document" to make his site. has he hit the "three strikes" mark yet ??
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Old 04-03-2004, 07:17 AM   #23
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Old 04-03-2004, 10:56 AM   #24
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:00 AM   #25
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:03 AM   #26
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Trials are a bad idea, some webmasters will always end up doing shit like this and so the sponsor looses money. And if the sponsor is loosing money what do you think will happen? Shaving.
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:04 AM   #27
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wow, that was a good looking site!
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:07 AM   #28
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ya was he getting any traffic. usally with cable hosted pages if you get large amount of traffic they shut you down, so it couldnt have been that much. was he getting many signups?
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:07 AM   #29
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I saw on with Silvercash, that the guy was paying 5 bucks then you would email with the sign up details and he would pay.
He got $35.00 per sign up they got $5.00
Have you notified Silver Cash?
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:08 AM   #30
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See, I'd pay him, no doubt.

You do pay per sign up thats what you fucken get.
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Old 04-03-2004, 11:08 AM   #31
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Doesn't everyone cancel right after downloading everything on the site?

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Old 04-03-2004, 11:13 AM   #32
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Doesn't everyone cancel right after downloading everything on the site?

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Old 04-03-2004, 11:59 AM   #33
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Cancel his account no probl... but I hope youll still pay him..?

Did he do something against the rules?
Did he encouraged the surfers to cheat you?

You think that when a member purchase a 3 day TRIAL pass he doesnt know he ll have to cancel before the 3rd day ...? Surfers that goes beyond the 3 days is because they wanted to.. or they FORGOT...!!!!!!!! I dont see what the fuck it matters if they guy told them they could cancel without any hassle... before they joined?!! Or you think some people wouldnt have found the cancel link!?? lol If so.. you are the cheater...

And btw.. if you dont pay the guy... hope its not a big amount because he would own your ass in court...
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:08 PM   #34
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Cancel his account no probl... but I hope youll still pay him..?

Did he do something against the rules?
Did he encouraged the surfers to cheat you?

You think that when a member purchase a 3 day TRIAL pass he doesnt know he ll have to cancel before the 3rd day ...? Surfers that goes beyond the 3 days is because they wanted to.. or they FORGOT...!!!!!!!! I dont see what the fuck it matters if they guy told them they could cancel without any hassle... before they joined?!! Or you think some people wouldnt have found the cancel link!?? lol If so.. you are the cheater...

And btw.. if you dont pay the guy... hope its not a big amount because he would own your ass in court...
your mother is a dirty crack whore
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:11 PM   #35
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lol, gotta love p1mpdogg
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:15 PM   #36
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:17 PM   #37
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Cancel his account no probl... but I hope youll still pay him..?

Did he do something against the rules?
Did he encouraged the surfers to cheat you?

You think that when a member purchase a 3 day TRIAL pass he doesnt know he ll have to cancel before the 3rd day ...? Surfers that goes beyond the 3 days is because they wanted to.. or they FORGOT...!!!!!!!! I dont see what the fuck it matters if they guy told them they could cancel without any hassle... before they joined?!! Or you think some people wouldnt have found the cancel link!?? lol If so.. you are the cheater...

And btw.. if you dont pay the guy... hope its not a big amount because he would own your ass in court...

He should definately get paid. lets face it he is sending traffic your way, and not all of them are going to cancel. Im sure he had to buy traffic for that site, so your fucking him if you dont.
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:17 PM   #38
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Gotta love the Pimpdawgg... not the smartest one... but makes up for it with surprisingly witty and sharp one liners...

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Old 04-03-2004, 12:24 PM   #39
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Let's work this out...
A guy signs and cancels - You pay out 35 bucks.


The guy that signed, has a working credit card, and is looking for porn.


You are now spamming him with your mailer programme and should at least make 2 sales from him. (Anything under that as an average is not good mailing)

If you have upsells in your members area, there is a good chance you will get extra cash there.

So you are already in profit.


If you can this guy - I trust you let him know so he can send his traffic elsewhere to a company that knows how to profit from every join.
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:28 PM   #40
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"To Cancel your membership, click on the support link on the bottom of the page you signed up on. Click the cancel membership button, and your done, Hassle Free!!!!!



I have verified the above process myself, with my own personal credit card. The above statements are accurate!!



ENJOY YOUR FREE PORN"


yeah ok,no PPS program will pay such affiliate.
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:40 PM   #41
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"To Cancel your membership, click on the support link on the bottom of the page you signed up on. Click the cancel membership button, and your done, Hassle Free!!!!!



I have verified the above process myself, with my own personal credit card. The above statements are accurate!!



ENJOY YOUR FREE PORN"


yeah ok,no PPS program will pay such affiliate.



What do you think it means when you say on your site FREE TRIAL in big letters !? That means.. Join.. GET YOUR FREE PORN and if you dont cancel whitin 3 days... you'll pay $XX ..... You think this guy is telling those people anything they didnt know!?

People knows they need to cancel... like I said before... some dont cancel because they want to.. others because they FORGOT about it the next day...!!!!!!!

Program owners can cancel any webmaster if they want.. but need to have better reasons for not paying someone..

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Old 04-03-2004, 12:42 PM   #42
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alot of warez sites place scams like that. Signup with your credit card and on the next page fill in the blank
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Old 04-03-2004, 12:51 PM   #43
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It's simple. Any reference to cancel, cancelation process will increase the cancelation rate, thus it will minimize the outcome of the sale. It's possible for sponsors with competitive payouts to make the joins unprofitable.
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It's simple. Any reference to cancel, cancelation process will increase the cancelation rate, thus it will minimize the outcome of the sale. It's possible for sponsors with competitive payouts to make the joins unprofitable.
true... it somehow can have a slight difference... (would still be curious to see some numbers.. Understand that the guy might also have had a few more sales because of the personal contact he made with his surfers and emphasizing on the notion they they wont get screwd.. This affiliate obviously did that thinking that it would increase the sales...) ...

But like I said.. cancelling someone's account for that is fair.. but you undertand that when you decide NOT TO PAY an affiliate.. (if thats the case here) you need to prove that the affiliate did something illegal... and unless that was mentionned in the "agreement" form.. its not illegal...

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He's telling them to cancel once they join.
Breaking TOS.

Give me a break, if the program was anything else you guys would be SCREAMING in terror. But because it's Epic Cash it's a different story.
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Is he getting many signups?
course he is this is way they trace where the sign-ups was coming from...he's prolly killin em and people cancleing..haha
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Breaking TOS.

fair enough... do you have a quote backing your affirmation from EpicCash TOS...?
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But like I said.. cancelling someone's account for that is fair.. but you undertand that when you decide NOT TO PAY an affiliate.. (if thats the case here) you need to prove that the affiliate did something illegal... and unless that was mentionned in the "agreement" form.. its not illegal...
and if they don't have it in their agreement what he gonna do, sue..so he's fucked coming and going
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fair enough... do you have a quote backing your affirmation from EpicCash TOS...?
Yep.

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We own the program, so if we think you're cheating we can shut you off.
I'm sure it goes something like that.
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Old 04-03-2004, 01:17 PM   #50
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I'm sure it goes something like that.
nope... cheating is when you do something illegal... either based on EpicCash TOS or based on US laws...

Telling people the obvious.. to cancel before the 3rd day.. cannot be considered as cheating... IF its not mentionned in the TOS..

This guy would win hands down in court... but I doubt he made more than $200... so..

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