You obviously missed the point, as I said you would.

You are very close minded and short sighted. As incredibly stupid it is to have Bush running things, I'm still very glad that they don't find ignorant people like you to do it instead.

Today they are being ruled by another country, fed propaganda by another country and imposed a political system upon them. In short, they have no country and no freedom.

I would blow shit up to if my country was under occupation.

Do you ever write something constructive?
Have you forgotten when General Sharon liberated Lebanon and your people in 1982?
Have you forgotten when you people acclaimed the Israeli troops who had just liberated you from the Arab invaders?

I guess you are not too proud about that part of your history

I see, back to personal attack when you do not have a point, very sad and very weak

refreshing to see another more open minded, clear thinking individual exists around these parts...


well put btw....



some people just let emotions get the best of them, on BOTH sides...emotional people are akin to drug addicts...not the most rational thinkers...

I see, let's see what happens when a mob of CRAZY MORMONS lynch an arab guy in Salt Lake City and tie his body to a cross :warning

I disagree. Objectively, you can. This is an occupation, and no matter what you or I may see as the benefits of it, there are segments of that population who fundamentally believe that the US is just as 'evil' as we considered the Nazis. In our opinion, they're wrong of course, but let's not be shocked that they're willing to fight with everything they've got, and don't consider their 'liberators' to be worthy of humane treatment.

Saddam's regime was a terrible thing. In my opinion, it was great to get him out, but let's not now be shocked by resistance. And let's not lump the entire Arab world or Muslim faith in with an extreme segment of the population. I HAVE been there, for three years, and not within the confines of the armed forces or diplomatic corps... Seeing people refer to 'sand niggahs' and 'nuking' or 'flattening' the entire place simply makes it glaringly apparent why the US has such enemies to begin with.

I love it when people resort to these arguments.

"I have nothing good to say in response to what you just said, so instead, I'll just remind you of when we helped you in 82, and that you should be agreeing with anything we do or say forever because of it."

And what I said, it's not a personal attack. It's an observation of what you said, which was a valid point. And it's not "back" to a personal attack since I have never made one.

I told you "their country sucked, but it was theirs, they were proud of it" and you came back with "did you see the how their country was?"

I said it sucked, didn't I? You obviously missed it in your narrow sightedness. As horrible as the country was, it was theirs. You can't seem to even conceive of that concept with makes you rather closed minded.

Both very valid observations, not personal attacks. Some people are open to suggestions, others aren't. Neither is an attack, it's just how they are.

All I know is that Palestinians and Israelis brought us nothing but trouble which ended up in the creation of Hezbollah.
I blame my whole country though for all that shit.

I'm not proud about how we went to war with muslims. Obviously I was very anti-muslim as a kid but I'm ashamed of that whole situation.

you never what's going through their heads.

you never know what they have been through.

If someone killed anyone of my family members... you best believe i'd tear some shit up. would'nt you?

If that happens, I sure hope to see you making a thread titled "Americans have lost all sense of decency" and make comments like "How can it be possible that a whole people can do or approve of such acts?"

PS. 49 people and 1 ignorant ass :glugglug

I've seen your other posts... Knocking palestinians, arabs and so forth...

It is highly unlikely that any one in fallujah lost a family member because of American fire, next...

Are you from Lebanon?

"Get the fuck out of Iraq...."

Because that would solve everything. The reason we're in this mess is because, after the Gulf War, we just "got the fuck out," and that left all of these iraqi's at the hands of a pissed off saddam huessein.

We cannot simply just "get the fuck out of iraq," we need to finish what we started.

people take things way to seriously in this world, thats why we have problems.

People care so much about stupid land, about money, just take it easy and all will come to you.

Ooh, good response. Way to avoid the entire post.

And kenel, I agree... leaving would be a big mistake.

Research abit.. before making empty statments:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bushsr-iraq.jpg

Its hwo they where raised, what do you expect?

SO, if someone is anti American or anti Israel, they are a free thinker, a philisoph of freedom.

If someone is pro American or pro Israel, then they are stupid and anti-freedom?

The facts are simple and they are as follow.

78% of all Arabs freely admit that it is ok to kill civilians and slaughter them

98% of all Americans will cry if they see a puppy being killed on TV

99% of all Adult Webmaster will run a hosting company to the ground if they see a cat being abused....

Got it?

You're all a bunch of racist assholes.

If a foreign military invaded your country, destroyed your town, killed your brothers, and tried to convert you to their religion, you'd probably start burning motherfuckers alive too.

If I ever had a family member raped or murdered, I'd do whatever I could to exact vengeance from the perp. Up to and including attacking and killing him in the courtroom during the trial.

No jury would convict me, and even if they did I'd still be content in my actions.

dav555ad I think we both agree that change is needed in the muslim world but I don't think we agree on the methods. I really don't see how treating them like crap is gonna do any good.

Research abit.. before making empty statments:


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Excerpt from "Why We Didn't Remove Saddam" by George Bush [Sr.] and Brent Scowhahahahaha, Time (2 March 1998):



By george bush sr.. It seems the family has a history of lies, doesn't it? Like recently...when they convinced us of mass weapons of destruction.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very conservative....I just have 0 respect for Bush now-a-days.

Saddam had them people led properly the plan was simple.

Anyone that didnt do as he said they were shot and families killed.

Thats the only language them people understand. They say Saddam was a strong leader. Indeed he was. He kept them fucks under control the only way them people understand.

Until US forces can deliver the kind of leadership Saddam delivered we won't be getting anywhere with those people.

Them "Clerics" running around over there right now...
Saddam would have had them killed already just for talkin shit.

To me it just seems that these people cannot handle a democracy. Almost ever major middle eastern country is ran by a monarch, and many have quite ruthless ones, there is a reason for that, be it their culture, education, who the hell knows, I sure dont. We are westerners, they are not, to me the whole situation just seems pointless. The only reason they hate us so much is because he help the jews. I say pull all the western forces out and let the jews and arabs fight it out. To me that seems to be the only way for peace, let one kill the other one off, the one still standing doesnt have an enemy anymore, and there you have it, PEACE!!

42.7% of all statistics are made up... or in your case, 100%.

Don't go spouting %'s and call them "facts"

You make yourself out to be a bigger ass then you already have.

As for what I said, it's PRO NOTHING. What I meant was, if you see an American kill an arab in San Diego, don't judge all Americans by it. Got it?

Do you think Iraqis are better off today or 24 months ago?

Are you aware that the Arabs who hold Israeli citizenship are the #1 in per capita GNP in the entire world, including the US and Saudi Arabia?

The solution is to get rid of all these crooked Arab government who only preach hatred of the US/Israel and the west. The problem is that hundreds of millions of Arabs have had their mind soiled with "Kill the Infidels" propaganda.

It will not be an easy task...

Doesn't matter what he thinks, or what you think.

What do the Iraqis think?

This will help to bring peace in the region:

Now, should I extrapole and say like you:

Nuke the Israelis????

Don't think so. We are talking about 15, not all. I have friends in Israel that would prefer to live a peacefull and joyfull life ...

You know, you might want to look at your government....
Canada has quietly decided to do away with immigrants from Arab countries, up to a few months ago, any one applying for residency in Canada had to wait about 24 months, as long as they qualified and they scored enough point on the immigration questionnaire.
Today, a French citizen can expect to immigrate to Canada in less than 12 months, however, people from Arab countries now have to wait in excess of 72 months !!!!

You have no idea what you are talking about, you sure sound like a young naive who does not know much about life beside pussy, trannies and goat fuckers, you are pathetic :thumbsup

Actually in that case, they bought houses in east Jerusalem. Those houses were obviously sold to them by Arab owners. Those same owners are screaming today because the house they sold to Jews are being "occupied" by Jews...:2 cents:

No I don't think Iraqis are better off at all. I see religious fundamentalism increasing, I see crazy acts by frustrated people, I see a nation living under occupation. That's what I see. I see that they're not fully ready. Having another country do all the work for you is only gonna make you irresponsible. Are we commies now? Do we think that all people should be equal and enjoy the same kind of life as others wether they want to or not?

Nope, the solution is to simply give the Palestinians independance. As long as that's not done I don't see the situation changing. You can get rid of any idiotic government you want, that won't change the situation and it sure as hell ain't gonna magically make the problem disappear. Enough with the double standards already. Building settlements in another people's land shouldn't be allowed and sure as hell shouldn't be financed.

Another good argument, way to completely change the topic since you had nothing to say in response.

Do you want to know WHY Canada makes it so difficult for them to get into Canada? Hmm?

You don't suppose it's because of all the pressure that the US puts on Canada to do so, do you?

The US would never put pressure on Canada to do stuff would they? Like, gay marriage issues, marajuana issues, trade issues, going to war with Iraq...

nah, the US would never try to tell another country what to do :1orglaugh

Oh Canada...
Oh, I hold a Canadian Passport by the way :thumbsup
But don't worry, I never go to the west coast...

wtf do I care if you come to Canada? The US already does it's share of poluting our waters and air. Having you here wouldn't be any different.

Doesn't it make you feel bad that now you know I am a "compatriote" :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

There are a lot of stupid people in every country. That's kinda the point we're all trying to get through to you in this thread.

Toot-toot, here comes the clue train. Next stop: You.

I want to have your babies.

Yes, of course.
You are a Philosopher
I am an Ignorant Capitalist Imperialist zionist