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baddog · 03-29-2004, 06:55 PM

I have a friend that works for Martin Lawrence Galleries - and they are getting ready to have an auction, so great deals are to be had.

You can get Warhol starting at $6,000, Chagall starting at $1,000, Picasso starting at $1,000, and many, many more for as low as $300.

This includes museum style framing.

If you go to the website, click on the art auctions and if you see something you like, contact me and I will put you in touch with my friend that will let you know exactly how low you can bid, and probably win. The website prices are the retail prices, you can get them for anywhere from 40-75% less.

Helluva deal.

You can contact me at [email protected] or ICQ 16075497

baddog · 03-29-2004, 07:41 PM

To answer questions that have already been asked: everything is original, the owner is world renowned expert in authentication, authenticates and verifies pieces for Picasso estate. So everything is guaranteed to be originals

SleazyDream · 03-29-2004, 07:46 PM

noice

baddog · 03-29-2004, 07:57 PM

Art can be a great investment, and my friend is into introducing people that have yet to explore the art world so that they can become comfortable with it.

digifan · 03-29-2004, 08:01 PM

Chagall.. mmmmm. And a good investment too.

myjah · 03-29-2004, 08:06 PM

I've never really had my hand in art but I have a friend that I think will find this phenomenal...will relay this info

Minte · 03-29-2004, 08:11 PM

Some fantastic pieces in that collection..I see the Dali that is going to hang on my wall

baddog · 03-29-2004, 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by myjah
I've never really had my hand in art but I have a friend that I think will find this phenomenal...will relay this info

I have the ultimate hookup at my call. I stake my reputation that you will get the best possible deal.

BigFrog · 03-29-2004, 09:44 PM

that is fucking awesome

KRL · 03-29-2004, 09:47 PM

You have to really know your stuff if you start buying high end pieces. A friend of mine who I'd consider pretty near expert level even got duped with an amazing fake.

Aly-Python · 03-29-2004, 10:07 PM

Ramos...

Trippekdick · 03-29-2004, 10:16 PM

looks nice

Rob · 03-29-2004, 10:22 PM

Art, the best investment. It never depreciates in value and it's great to look at!

bcooter · 03-29-2004, 10:26 PM

wow, picasso's stuff is amazing. not because its good, but incredibley bad. i could do that. i realize he is a revolutionary in painting, but his sketches suck.

baddog · 03-29-2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
You have to really know your stuff if you start buying high end pieces. A friend of mine who I'd consider pretty near expert level even got duped with an amazing fake.

Perhaps you missed this, the owner of the company that owns Martin Lawrence Galleries is a world renowned expert in authentication, so much so that he authenticates and verifies pieces for the Picasso estate. So everything is guaranteed to be originals.

baddog · 03-29-2004, 10:32 PM

If you want, (ie: are seriously interested) I will get the guys name for you (I don't remember it) and you can investigate my claims.

PMdave · 03-29-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by baddog

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You can get Warhol starting at $6,000, Chagall starting at $1,000, Picasso starting at $1,000....

Wanna bet these go your price² ?

baddog · 03-29-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by PMdave

Wanna bet these go your price² ?

sorry, I don't know what you mean, or what you are trying to say

PMdave · 03-29-2004, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

sorry, I don't know what you mean, or what you are trying to say

You said "You can get Warhol starting at $6,000, Chagall starting at $1,000, Picasso starting at $1,000...."

I wanted to say "no waythese go atleast 1000 times higher" but that was before I had a look at what was on there. After seeing it I'd say 3-4 times that value (for the unsigned etches, lithos, woodcarvings, screenprints, etc)

baddog · 03-29-2004, 11:01 PM

David Rogath is the guys name that owns Martin Lawrence, technically this stuff is all his private collection.

He can provide referances from the Picasso estate and Christies of London, and Sotheby's among others if required.

It is stated in the policy that if anything ever was found to be a fake, you will get 100% money back, but they have never had a fake discovered yet.

baddog · 03-29-2004, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PMdave

You said "You can get Warhol starting at $6,000, Chagall starting at $1,000, Picasso starting at $1,000...."

I wanted to say "no waythese go atleast 1000 times higher" but that was before I had a look at what was on there. After seeing it I'd say 3-4 times that value (for the unsigned etches, lithos, woodcarvings, screenprints, etc)

like I said before, if you get them through the auction (rather than at one of the stores) you can get them for anywhere from 40-75% off retail.

corvette · 03-29-2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by Minte
Some fantastic pieces in that collection..I see the Dali that is going to hang on my wall

which one?

?

baddog · 03-29-2004, 11:09 PM

These are mostly limited editions, so there are usually more than one piece available, which is why my connection can let you know what price range you can get away with. Someone else may pay $8k for a piece that you can get for $5k.

baddog · 03-29-2004, 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Aly-Python
Ramos...

Ramos is well known for doing a lot of Playboy art

corvette · 03-29-2004, 11:11 PM

this is nice, haring

i liked this one as well, a lithograph of a very famous piece

baddog · 03-29-2004, 11:13 PM

Ramos is a great entry level artist, because he is relatively inexpensive and fun to look at.

stevecore · 03-29-2004, 11:14 PM

oooh! Lichtenstein! and McKnight!

Rob · 03-29-2004, 11:20 PM

I fucking hate Pop Art and I fucking hate Worhol!!! He is by no means an artist and anyone who thinks he is needs to be shot! How in the name of Christ is this art!?!?!

Bullshit tragedies that takes absolutely no talent! I challenge you to prove me wrong!

From his main collection, here we have "Camouflage". This would have been a great peice if the Military hadn't come out with it 100 years earlier!!!

Here we have Mr. Worhol's "Phucking Around In Photoshop: Fun with Filters".

It's pure garbage!

Ironhorse · 03-29-2004, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by bcooter
wow, picasso's stuff is amazing. not because its good, but incredibley bad. i could do that. i realize he is a revolutionary in painting, but his sketches suck.

Yes, I'm sure you could

Ironhorse · 03-29-2004, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
I fucking hate Pop Art and I fucking hate Worhol!!! He is by no means an artist and anyone who thinks he is needs to be shot! How in the name of Christ is this art!?!?!

Bullshit tragedies that takes absolutely no talent! I challenge you to prove me wrong!

From his main collection, here we have "Camouflage". This would have been a great peice if the Military hadn't come out with it 100 years earlier!!!

It's pure garbage!

Yes, but did the army do it in pink?

I do agree about Warhol though, fully overrated, I think people liked the parties

corvette · 03-29-2004, 11:33 PM

do you see anything in here that warhol did that you consider 'art'?

http://www.artnet.com/ag/fineartthum...?G=9&aid=17524

Ian · 03-29-2004, 11:44 PM

Noise.

Don't buy any of it.

Invest in something you fall in love with.

I have.

Most of it's worth some interesting bucks.

Some of it isn't but I still love it.

Rob · 03-29-2004, 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by corvett
do you see anything in here that warhol did that you consider 'art'?
http://www.artnet.com/ag/fineartthum...?G=9&aid=17524

Actually, yes. But I see it as art the first time it was designed. The Cambell's soup can is a fine example. It was art when the first designer did it. There was no need for a revision. Worhol just painted it onto a canvas which is what most of us designers consider as "tracing".

Art and Worhol should NEVER be uttered in the same sentence. Ever!

Ian · 03-29-2004, 11:49 PM

"do you see anything in here that warhol did that you consider 'art'?"

No.

And i've actually gone looking and tried to see something.

No luck.

corvette · 03-30-2004, 12:04 AM

many people felt the same way when warhol began producing his work in the mid sixties, they did not feel that was a form of ?art?

...as well, in the early 1900s when non-representational or art first came on the scene, people felt that art had to a direct reproduction of a physical scene or object, such as a person or landscape, or a something in history or religion?not the abstract work that russian artists such as kandinsky or malevich were putting out, or mondrian, it was revolutionary

as well, in recent times, you read in the newspaper what sort of exhibits some museums display?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=3142

it is interesting how broad art has become defined during the past 100 years

me, i think that a painting of red tomato soup can would look very good on my wall, against a flat white background

corvette · 03-30-2004, 12:06 AM

there have been essays written about that

baddog · 03-30-2004, 12:19 AM

I guess the soup can came out when the tin from the soup cans were causing lead poisoning.

Ian · 03-30-2004, 12:25 AM

Corvett, maybe we could just agree to disagree.

BTW, anyone thinking of buying prints of any kind should forget it.

If you can't buy the original then find something original that you fall in love with and buy that.

At the end of the day you will end up with something beautiful and original that you love and is yours. or you will own something beautiful that 100,000 other people own and bought because they were "guaranteed" to make money on it.

corvette · 03-30-2004, 12:32 AM

ian, i don't disagree with you, i just think some of that stuff would look good on my wall ;)

i agree with your second point, it might look nice, but there is nothing like having something unique, like nobody else has

baddog · 03-30-2004, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Ian

Invest in something you fall in love with.

I have.

Most of it's worth some interesting bucks.

Some of it isn't but I still love it.

perfect attitude actually

baddog · 03-30-2004, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by Ian

At the end of the day you will end up with something beautiful and original that you love and is yours. or you will own something beautiful that 100,000 other people own and bought because they were "guaranteed" to make money on it.

Good point, but I would be remiss if I did not point out that these are limited edition pieces. 300 would be a normal number for some artists.

But it is the difference between spending $1,000 and $150,000. If you want originals, that can be had also.

baddog · 03-30-2004, 10:56 AM

morning bump. . . . . anyone have any questions?

latinasojourn · 03-30-2004, 01:10 PM

when buying art you must buy what you enjoy looking at, then if it goes up in value it's a plus, and if it does not, you won't feel bad.

baddog · 03-30-2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by latinasojourn
when buying art you must buy what you enjoy looking at, then if it goes up in value it's a plus, and if it does not, you won't feel bad.

no question about it

DiVo · 03-30-2004, 02:39 PM

Went to a similar auction a few weeks ago. I am not well informed and I really don't know anything about this, but here is what I saw.

The picasso drawings were hitting 10-20k

Erte stuff was on fire. This stuff is super hot right now.

The chagall was 3-15. wide range.

Dali wood (hehe dollywood) engravings of the Divine comedy are very tricky. Do alot of reading if you want to buy one of those. I managed to snag a signed one in the hundreds, but there are many flavors of this series. all done in different numbers of runs and such. I only saw one at this one and it went for 3k

I remember there was a steal to be had for Klimt (1,500) and Manet (2,000). I left before any warhol or pisarro went up.

Even if you aren't buying, art auctions are a good waste of time and great people watching.

03-29-2004, 06:55 PM	#1
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Anyone into art here? I have a friend that works for Martin Lawrence Galleries - and they are getting ready to have an auction, so great deals are to be had. You can get Warhol starting at $6,000, Chagall starting at $1,000, Picasso starting at $1,000, and many, many more for as low as $300. This includes museum style framing. If you go to the website, click on the art auctions and if you see something you like, contact me and I will put you in touch with my friend that will let you know exactly how low you can bid, and probably win. The website prices are the retail prices, you can get them for anywhere from 40-75% less. Helluva deal. You can contact me at [email protected] or ICQ 16075497

03-29-2004, 07:46 PM	#3
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03-29-2004, 07:41 PM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	To answer questions that have already been asked: everything is original, the owner is world renowned expert in authentication, authenticates and verifies pieces for Picasso estate. So everything is guaranteed to be originals

03-29-2004, 07:57 PM	#4
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Art can be a great investment, and my friend is into introducing people that have yet to explore the art world so that they can become comfortable with it.

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BigFrog Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,057	that is fucking awesome

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Rob I'm a great bowler. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Right Outside of Normal. Posts: 13,309	Art, the best investment. It never depreciates in value and it's great to look at! __________________

03-29-2004, 10:26 PM	#14
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03-29-2004, 10:32 PM	#16
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	If you want, (ie: are seriously interested) I will get the guys name for you (I don't remember it) and you can investigate my claims.

03-29-2004, 11:01 PM	#20
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	David Rogath is the guys name that owns Martin Lawrence, technically this stuff is all his private collection. He can provide referances from the Picasso estate and Christies of London, and Sotheby's among others if required. It is stated in the policy that if anything ever was found to be a fake, you will get 100% money back, but they have never had a fake discovered yet.

03-29-2004, 11:09 PM	#23
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	These are mostly limited editions, so there are usually more than one piece available, which is why my connection can let you know what price range you can get away with. Someone else may pay $8k for a piece that you can get for $5k.

03-29-2004, 11:11 PM	#25
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	this is nice, haring i liked this one as well, a lithograph of a very famous piece __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

03-29-2004, 11:13 PM	#26
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Ramos is a great entry level artist, because he is relatively inexpensive and fun to look at.

03-29-2004, 11:14 PM	#27
stevecore Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,130	oooh! Lichtenstein! and McKnight!

03-29-2004, 11:20 PM	#28
Rob I'm a great bowler. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Right Outside of Normal. Posts: 13,309	I fucking hate Pop Art and I fucking hate Worhol!!! He is by no means an artist and anyone who thinks he is needs to be shot! How in the name of Christ is this art!?!?! Bullshit tragedies that takes absolutely no talent! I challenge you to prove me wrong! From his main collection, here we have "Camouflage". This would have been a great peice if the Military hadn't come out with it 100 years earlier!!! Here we have Mr. Worhol's "Phucking Around In Photoshop: Fun with Filters". It's pure garbage! __________________

03-29-2004, 11:33 PM	#31
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	do you see anything in here that warhol did that you consider 'art'? http://www.artnet.com/ag/fineartthum...?G=9&aid=17524 __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

03-29-2004, 11:44 PM	#32
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	Noise. Don't buy any of it. Invest in something you fall in love with. I have. Most of it's worth some interesting bucks. Some of it isn't but I still love it.

03-29-2004, 11:49 PM	#34
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	"do you see anything in here that warhol did that you consider 'art'?" No. And i've actually gone looking and tried to see something. No luck.

03-30-2004, 12:04 AM	#35
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	many people felt the same way when warhol began producing his work in the mid sixties, they did not feel that was a form of ?art? ...as well, in the early 1900s when non-representational or art first came on the scene, people felt that art had to a direct reproduction of a physical scene or object, such as a person or landscape, or a something in history or religion?not the abstract work that russian artists such as kandinsky or malevich were putting out, or mondrian, it was revolutionary as well, in recent times, you read in the newspaper what sort of exhibits some museums display? http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=3142 it is interesting how broad art has become defined during the past 100 years me, i think that a painting of red tomato soup can would look very good on my wall, against a flat white background __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	there have been essays written about that __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

03-30-2004, 12:19 AM	#37
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	I guess the soup can came out when the tin from the soup cans were causing lead poisoning.

03-30-2004, 12:25 AM	#38
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	Corvett, maybe we could just agree to disagree. BTW, anyone thinking of buying prints of any kind should forget it. If you can't buy the original then find something original that you fall in love with and buy that. At the end of the day you will end up with something beautiful and original that you love and is yours. or you will own something beautiful that 100,000 other people own and bought because they were "guaranteed" to make money on it.

03-30-2004, 12:32 AM	#39
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	ian, i don't disagree with you, i just think some of that stuff would look good on my wall ;) i agree with your second point, it might look nice, but there is nothing like having something unique, like nobody else has __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

03-30-2004, 10:56 AM	#42
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	morning bump. . . . . anyone have any questions?

03-30-2004, 01:10 PM	#43
latinasojourn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,191	when buying art you must buy what you enjoy looking at, then if it goes up in value it's a plus, and if it does not, you won't feel bad.

03-30-2004, 02:39 PM	#45
DiVo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 153	Went to a similar auction a few weeks ago. I am not well informed and I really don't know anything about this, but here is what I saw. The picasso drawings were hitting 10-20k Erte stuff was on fire. This stuff is super hot right now. The chagall was 3-15. wide range. Dali wood (hehe dollywood) engravings of the Divine comedy are very tricky. Do alot of reading if you want to buy one of those. I managed to snag a signed one in the hundreds, but there are many flavors of this series. all done in different numbers of runs and such. I only saw one at this one and it went for 3k I remember there was a steal to be had for Klimt (1,500) and Manet (2,000). I left before any warhol or pisarro went up. Even if you aren't buying, art auctions are a good waste of time and great people watching. __________________ AIM - DivXVOD ICQ - 3370081