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pornstar2pac 03-26-2004 12:59 PM

40 sign-ups a day from Lars.:thumbsup

Xenophage 03-26-2004 01:02 PM

I got another big tweak soming out this week that i think will increase it another 5-10% :)

bottom line is conversion is just as important as the % payout or the $ payout.

I want to send out the biggest check possible thats what always gets me motivated to send traffic.

cali_22 03-26-2004 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by LegendaryLars


Lots of little layout changes and traffic flow changes..

Basically getting more people to the join page !


The only thing u guys missed was the bookmark button i think on the new layout co-branded. keep up the great work !

Xenophage 03-26-2004 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by cali_22



The only thing u guys missed was the bookmark button i think on the new layout co-branded. keep up the great work !

Its still there on the whos on now page between the free chat and the nude chat. But I will see if I can figure out some more places to put it :)

Xenophage 03-26-2004 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp
Lar's program has to be the easiest way to make money on the net. Just put a link to it on your site, you do nothing but cash checks. :)
Thanks shemp you and your site are top notch !

B Sandwich 03-26-2004 02:21 PM

raise it to $25 per free sign up and I'm in

PersianKitty 03-26-2004 02:38 PM

::pout:: no raise for revshare?

Tight 03-26-2004 02:42 PM

looking good! :thumbsup

pornstar2pac 03-26-2004 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B Sandwich
raise it to $25 per free sign up and I'm in





lol, can I have some of that chronic your smoking:winkwink:

Strife 03-26-2004 04:28 PM

cool deal :thumbsup

Sean 03-26-2004 04:38 PM

50

Brujah 03-26-2004 05:15 PM

Lars is O.P. Original Pimp!

Xenophage 03-26-2004 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B Sandwich
raise it to $25 per free sign up and I'm in
Soon we will have $25 per $1 payout

Xenophage 03-26-2004 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
::pout:: no raise for revshare?
not just yet, but we have increased conversions about 10% so that should give everyone a raise right there plus, I think next weeks changes will bump another 5-10% so with that its like a raise :)

SleazyDream 03-26-2004 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by LegendaryLars


Soon we will have $25 per $1 payout

gasp!

lazycash 03-26-2004 11:44 PM

Congrats Lars, you continue to expand and innovate. I'm too lazy to read your faq, just to clarify, in order to get the $25 does the surfer just need to make at least one min of private chat or do they have to do at least $25 in private chat time? I like your layout, volume and variety of models, but I just don't think I can generate as much $ with your pps program as I do with the free cc verify programs such as HSN, Weg, etc... I do 100+ signups weekly with them with average ratios of 1:45. Well I'll give your pps program a try and see how it works out. Nice to see what you've done with sweetcams.com I sold you, wish I'd put something together like that. Is that just a front end for your program or something different in the works? The webmaster link on the page doesn't seem to be working.

B Sandwich 03-27-2004 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac







lol, can I have some of that chronic your smoking:winkwink:

sure see sig or try ars

Xenophage 03-27-2004 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by lazycash
Congrats Lars, you continue to expand and innovate. I'm too lazy to read your faq, just to clarify, in order to get the $25 does the surfer just need to make at least one min of private chat or do they have to do at least $25 in private chat time? I like your layout, volume and variety of models, but I just don't think I can generate as much $ with your pps program as I do with the free cc verify programs such as HSN, Weg, etc... I do 100+ signups weekly with them with average ratios of 1:45. Well I'll give your pps program a try and see how it works out. Nice to see what you've done with sweetcams.com I sold you, wish I'd put something together like that. Is that just a front end for your program or something different in the works? The webmaster link on the page doesn't seem to be working.
we are going to be doing a bunch of $1 join front ends that will pay $25 and sweetcams will be one of them.

pimplink 03-27-2004 02:30 AM

Such a sweet deal........:)

lazycash 03-27-2004 02:33 AM

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Originally posted by LegendaryLars


we are going to be doing a bunch of $1 join front ends that will pay $25 and sweetcams will be one of them.

Nice! I'm assuming it will be a cc verify with a $1 charge like HSN is currently doing. Keep us updated, I will be all over that as long as you don't load up the join page with prechecked cross sales as epic is attempting with their new cam program.

Xenophage 03-27-2004 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by lazycash


Nice! I'm assuming it will be a cc verify with a $1 charge like HSN is currently doing. Keep us updated, I will be all over that as long as you don't load up the join page with prechecked cross sales as epic is attempting with their new cam program.

I think unfortunatley that is where it is all going.. same stuff as teh paysite game. Since he who pays the most money gets the most traffic. So if you offer cross sales you make more money thus you can pay out more. Forcing all competition to also go to that same level or face declining traffic.

Sean 03-27-2004 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


gasp!


we love you too

lazycash 03-27-2004 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by LegendaryLars


I think unfortunatley that is where it is all going.. same stuff as teh paysite game. Since he who pays the most money gets the most traffic. So if you offer cross sales you make more money thus you can pay out more. Forcing all competition to also go to that same level or face declining traffic.

I agree that a sponsor certainly has the right to do anything to increase their margins and maintain their payouts. However, I've done testing on hundreds of thousands of hits to cam programs and my conversion ratios on average are 30-40% worse when a prechecked cross sale is on the join page. Add to that the increased chargeback % that comes with prechecked cross sales. They may work when you're doing a $40 sale, but not when the surfer is only expecting a free or $1 verify.

Also, you want to attract high volume webmasters who know they can convert with your program, if program B around the corner doesn't have cross sales on their join page you can bet they will send their traffic there first. I'd prefer a $20 payout with no cross sales and convert at 1:60 vs a $25 payout converting at 1:150. Wegcash did extensive testing of cross sales the first month of their free join cam program. Their CEO came on their board and said that cross sales were of no benefit to them and they were removing them permanently from their cam join pages. Just some food for thought.

Sean 03-27-2004 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by lazycash

I'd prefer a $20 payout with no cross sales and convert at 1:60 vs a $25 payout converting at 1:150.


make no mistake, we have some irons in the fire with new projects, but streamray is now paying $25 dollars per join on our camsites, with no cross sales.

we are just getting ready to have different opitions also.
stay tuned for that.

lazycash 03-27-2004 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Irish Pimp



make no mistake, we have some irons in the fire with new projects, but streamray is now paying $25 dollars per join on our camsites, with no cross sales.

we are just getting ready to have different opitions also.
stay tuned for that.

Sounds great, I'll wait and see what you guys got cookin. I realize you are paying $25 per join, but your model is different than the model I've been promoting and had much success with.($25+ for a cc verify vs $25 for buying private time) I realize with your model I can quickly get my surfers into chatting and viewing your free cams with the thought of getting them horny enough to purchase private time or I can do what I'm doing now and hope to get them curious enough on a tour to verify their cc just to get access to free teaser cams. Certainly your model bodes well for the future as Visa/MC put more and more pressure on the free cc verify(some have already moved it to $1). The more options you present to the webmaster promoting cams will only strengthen your program. I'll be curious to see what you guys come up with.

mardigras 03-27-2004 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by Irish Pimp



icq me or email and i will hook you up

Weird... Roboform popped up an entry "LegendaryLars" with the bad combo but I was able to manually pull up an entry for Streamray.com that worked at LegendaryLars.com so I had Roboform overwrite it. All's fine now, thanks!:)

Xenophage 03-27-2004 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash


Sounds great, I'll wait and see what you guys got cookin. I realize you are paying $25 per join, but your model is different than the model I've been promoting and had much success with.($25+ for a cc verify vs $25 for buying private time) I realize with your model I can quickly get my surfers into chatting and viewing your free cams with the thought of getting them horny enough to purchase private time or I can do what I'm doing now and hope to get them curious enough on a tour to verify their cc just to get access to free teaser cams. Certainly your model bodes well for the future as Visa/MC put more and more pressure on the free cc verify(some have already moved it to $1). The more options you present to the webmaster promoting cams will only strengthen your program. I'll be curious to see what you guys come up with.

Yeah :) lotsa fun. should be announcing more changes within the next few weeks ! Gonna try and offer every model we can so we can satisfy everyone.. Also I am not sure if the competiton has exit consoles or not but we dont on all co branded sites. Thinking of offering a more payout if we get the exit also.

Sean 03-27-2004 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by mardigras


Weird... Roboform popped up an entry "LegendaryLars" with the bad combo but I was able to manually pull up an entry for Streamray.com that worked at LegendaryLars.com so I had Roboform overwrite it. All's fine now, thanks!:)


right on then. well if you need anything, you know who to yell at

Xenophage 03-28-2004 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mardigras


Weird... Roboform popped up an entry "LegendaryLars" with the bad combo but I was able to manually pull up an entry for Streamray.com that worked at LegendaryLars.com so I had Roboform overwrite it. All's fine now, thanks!:)


prolly a cookie issue

Xenophage 03-29-2004 01:02 PM

$47 bucks a sale till april 5th


dont miss out send traffic NOW!!!!

myjah 03-29-2004 01:20 PM

thats awesome!

Sean 03-29-2004 01:22 PM

we just changed the payouts today. hit me up if you have questions

TheSwed 03-29-2004 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
::pout:: no raise for revshare?

Sami 03-29-2004 01:32 PM

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Dravyk 03-29-2004 01:38 PM

Seems the industry has become "Cam Wars" lately. :Graucho

Xenophage 03-29-2004 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by Dravyk
Seems the industry has become "Cam Wars" lately. :Graucho
Yes the war is on :)

Sean 03-29-2004 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dravyk
Seems the industry has become "Cam Wars" lately. :Graucho


and we have the most girls!!

TheSwed 03-29-2004 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Irish Pimp




and we have the most girls!!

Yes they are real hot Click Here To See 4 Your Self:winkwink:

justfreemovies 03-29-2004 02:00 PM

hey i was wondering what the email$ part of the stats is for?
did you used to pay for the free email signups?

if so bring it back cause ive sent quite a few :( lol :)

Xenophage 03-29-2004 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by justfreemovies
hey i was wondering what the email$ part of the stats is for?
did you used to pay for the free email signups?

if so bring it back cause ive sent quite a few :( lol :)

We built a pay per email program...

but are still testing it.. At some point we will launch it as an alternative to our other ways of sending traffic...


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