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taboo_gal · 03-24-2004, 01:30 PM

You've dropped, are dropping, would like to drop MPA2.

I'm ready to give you the ability to switch with free affiliate import, affiliate payment, management and promotion services with no upfront costs, free for 30 days, the greater of $39.95 or 10% of your total affiliate commissions thereafter, BUT only if you contact me (mandy at taboorevenue.com) by 3/29/04 at 5p EST.

Superglam · 03-24-2004, 01:50 PM

Anybody who is interestd in a cheap cascading billing solution should buy our software (php/mysql) for only 1600 USD. It's a one time fee and you get the full source code with it.

Contact: domi at superglam.com

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-24-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by taboo_gal
You've dropped, are dropping, would like to drop MPA2.

I'm ready to give you the ability to switch with free affiliate import, affiliate payment, management and promotion services with no upfront costs, free for 30 days, the greater of $39.95 or 10% of your total affiliate commissions thereafter, BUT only if you contact me (mandy at taboorevenue.com) by 3/29/04 at 5p EST.

Ya mean you wanna take 10% of all affiliate commissions?

Eat fucken dick...

bignasty · 03-24-2004, 02:45 PM

if you would remove this from the affiliate sign up form you may have better results

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In order to target offers from sponsors that you prefer, choose categories below that match your website or your personal areas of interest. We will NOT bombard you with emails! Categories are chosen so that we can notify you of new sponsors that may work well for you, and of special incentives or deals that we're able to work out for TabooRevenue webmasters.

theres been a couple times i was gonna sign up for a sponsor till i saw this.

tootie · 03-24-2004, 02:58 PM

10% is... umm... alot. The processors already eat up a ton of the profits, and when you figure in paying affiliates, buying content and plugins, paying for bandwidth, etc. that 10% is HUGE.

Another thing... you pay affiliates, right? But you only pay once a month AND you pay 28 days AFTER the end of the pay period? That means that if someone starts promoting a program on the 1st of the month, it'd be about two full months before he got his first check. I doubt many affiliates would go for that. I only use a couple of monthly sponsors, and I use them only rarely. My main sponsor pays weekly and my secondary sponsor pays twice a month. Recently there was a poll about this subject and a pretty big chunk said they preferred weekly payouts or at least every two weeks. The only people that really liked monthly seemed to be people with so much money that cashing a check more than once a month was just too time consuming for them!

Seriously. Lower that percentage and pay more often and you might get a few people signed up.

taboo_dude · 03-24-2004, 03:05 PM

bignasty we will take that into consideration.

Alien, very professional commentary there, where did you learn those words in 2nd grade?

We have a system setup that ensures no cheating or shaving. Some webmasters are more than willing to pay 10% of their commissions for that sense of security for their program.

But we that is not all we do, unless you live under a rock, you have seen our clients get a lot or press and promotion. Couple that with software that has been in existence for seven years and the experience of helping thousand of clients and hundred of thousands of affiliates in the mainstream we will be a force to be reckon with in the adult industry.

In the works, cascading billing within three weeks and after that we will be rolling out our new tracking that we hase been a work in progress for over a year.

I would end this with a really smart remark like yours but I'm not feeling that low today

fyrflygrl · 03-24-2004, 03:42 PM

We've always made a practice of hearing what clients and visitors have to say about our services/site and business...including pricing.

BigNasty, thanks for the suggestion... join and I'll exclude you from all mailings

Tootie, we've just implemented bi-weekly payments and epassporte is only days away... so we're increasing our range of payment options.. I'm looking forward to this for affiliates

TabooRevenue is priced for the webmaster that would rather pay an honest 40%, than advertise 60% and shave 20% across the board to accomodate his overhead.

Additional services like affiliate payment help lower cost for you and the program promotion we do is something that independant webmasters don't have the time for, or budget to dedicate a human resource for.

We've some damn good affiliates, too

Fyrflygrl

zentz · 03-24-2004, 03:42 PM

interesting

taboo_gal · 03-24-2004, 07:14 PM

I think my coworkers covered it, but you really think that 10% is too much when you get not only software, but also someone to manage, promote and pay affiliates for you?

How long have you all been in this business and do you honestly consider it a business? You don't get something for nothing anymore. It requires a serious investment and lots of work.

Ask those who've been around for a while.

Bignasty, I do appreciate your feedback and it will be discussed. I do have a question, though. Why is it an issue for a company you've chosen to webmaster for to email you with new sponsors, special offers, helpful marketing material and opps to earn more cash? This is the whole reason behind it and I would like to know, honestly, why you avoid programs that offer such.

=^..^= · 03-24-2004, 07:16 PM

I need built in shave feature - you got that?

taboo_gal · 03-24-2004, 07:19 PM

Damn...we forgot to include that!

bignasty · 03-24-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by fyrflygrl

BigNasty, thanks for the suggestion... join and I'll exclude you from all mailings

Fyrflygrl

went ahead and joined then user name is bignasty

bignasty · 03-24-2004, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by taboo_gal

Bignasty, I do appreciate your feedback and it will be discussed. I do have a question, though. Why is it an issue for a company you've chosen to webmaster for to email you with new sponsors, special offers, helpful marketing material and opps to earn more cash? This is the whole reason behind it and I would like to know, honestly, why you avoid programs that offer such.

i get enough crap emailed to me everyday. personaly, to be emailed telling about new sponsors etc, is more of a bother to me than it is helpful. most sponsors have a page in their site with this info if i choose to look for it. i log in regularly to keep up with marketing materials etc that a sponsor offers. a lot of sponsors do send out mails like yours, however most of them are opt in or opt out. if your gonna send them out, make them opt in, let people decide if they want to recive them. from the way your join page is worded it doesnt sound like it is.

taboo_gal · 03-24-2004, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by bignasty

i get enough crap emailed to me everyday. personaly, to be emailed telling about new sponsors etc, is more of a bother to me than it is helpful. most sponsors have a page in their site with this info if i choose to look for it. i log in regularly to keep up with marketing materials etc that a sponsor offers. a lot of sponsors do send out mails like yours, however most of them are opt in or opt out. if your gonna send them out, make them opt in, let people decide if they want to recive them. from the way your join page is worded it doesnt sound like it is.

Thanks for the response. We'll certainly take this into consideration.

taboo_gal · 03-25-2004, 06:18 AM

bump...

I don't want anyone to miss this opp.

Lykos · 03-25-2004, 07:29 AM

Hmmm...to much i think....

Dirty F · 03-25-2004, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by taboo_gal
bump...

I don't want anyone to miss this opp.

10% ??? You are crazy.

taboo_gal · 03-25-2004, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss

10% ??? You are crazy.

Nope....you're getting a lot more than just generic software for that price.

Most 3rd party billers are charging 4.5% above standard merchant account transaction processing fees. Wonder why that is? And they don't offer what we do.

MPA2 charges $300 per month.

For that same $300 per month ($3000 in affiliate commissions, our take of 10%) with us you get program promotion, management and payment. The plus is we are compatible with a plethera of billing solutions, are essentially bug free, have no server stress issues, monitor the programs for the sponsor and we host the program.

You really get more bang for your buck.

Basic_man · 03-25-2004, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by AlienQ

Ya mean you wanna take 10% of all affiliate commissions?

Eat fucken dick...

Yeah right, eat a dick!

taboo_gal · 03-25-2004, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by Basic_man

Yeah right, eat a dick!

I'll consider that...too bad it won't be yours.

undermyspell · 03-25-2004, 10:03 AM

I think a lot of people are missing the point here. I see a lot of bitching about Taboo Revenue charging 10%. Who's bitching about it the wanna be's?

First, when you purchase/rent the MPA system you pay out the ass for it. Plus, if you need any revisions done you pay out the ass for the service that is more often than not a timely process.

Second, with MPA do you get anything but headaches and bad press because you're using the software? I'm sure most of the people using it have experienced the stats problems and the bugs that cost you time, money and a slice of your reputation because it's out of your hands how the program is going to act.

Third, Taboo Revenue is a for profit business just like the rest of us and they deserve to make a profit for their hardwork and committment.

I'm not sure how many of you know these people but they are excellent people that are very committed to making your business successful or if it's already successful to help it grow even more so. Are you aware that their staff spends hours daily promoting the companies they work for through message boards, press releases and such? Are you aware that several of the companies they work with have been featured on Tech TV? How's that for exposure? I'm sure that the marketing people that you employ can secure that kind of exposure for you.

When you think about everything you get with Taboo including the fact that they DO not and WILL not ever shave your clients and they send out the payments for you on time then the 10% is really not a huge issue. Especially considering the fact that many of you programs have to pay fees to your banks for checks to be printed, a fee for each check that you write, time spent by an employ to prepare and mail those checks, additional money to send those checks overseas, etc. etc. You pay an accountant, you pay a marketer, you pay several people to handle portions of your business so why not pay a reputable company to handle the affiliate portion of your business? Affiliates are the reason that you're in business and the Taboo people know how to handle them properly.

For the record, I don't work for Taboo, I have interacted with them several times at various conventions and would trust my affiliate program to them before I would trust it to in house employees. I have always recommended them to anyone that's in need of an affiliate program solution.

Dirty F · 03-25-2004, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by taboo_gal

Nope....you're getting a lot more than just generic software for that price.

Most 3rd party billers are charging 4.5% above standard merchant account transaction processing fees. Wonder why that is? And they don't offer what we do.

MPA2 charges $300 per month.

For that same $300 per month ($3000 in affiliate commissions, our take of 10%) with us you get program promotion, management and payment. The plus is we are compatible with a plethera of billing solutions, are essentially bug free, have no server stress issues, monitor the programs for the sponsor and we host the program.

You really get more bang for your buck.

Uh most programs make way more than 3k...i doubt anybody in his right mind who is doing 10k+ a month is gonna pay you 1000 dollars a month. Get a clue, you need one.

taboo_gal · 03-25-2004, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss

Uh most programs make way more than 3k...i doubt anybody in his right mind who is doing 10k+ a month is gonna pay you 1000 dollars a month. Get a clue, you need one.

Yeah I know programs make more than that. I'm new to this board, new to adult, but not new to affiliate marketing.

Ummm...we've got clients paying us upwards of 3000 and more each month.

So I think the ones who need to get a clue are those who think this is a game where cheap is better. You always get what you pay for.

taboo_gal · 03-26-2004, 07:30 AM

I must be under my quota of abuse this week.

I'm bumping this thread again!

03-24-2004, 01:30 PM	#1
taboo_gal Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 151	You Have To Read This Thread If...... You've dropped, are dropping, would like to drop MPA2. I'm ready to give you the ability to switch with free affiliate import, affiliate payment, management and promotion services with no upfront costs, free for 30 days, the greater of $39.95 or 10% of your total affiliate commissions thereafter, BUT only if you contact me (mandy at taboorevenue.com) by 3/29/04 at 5p EST. __________________

03-24-2004, 01:50 PM	#2
Superglam Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 259	Anybody who is interestd in a cheap cascading billing solution should buy our software (php/mysql) for only 1600 USD. It's a one time fee and you get the full source code with it. Contact: domi at superglam.com __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-24-2004, 02:58 PM	#5
tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	10% is... umm... alot. The processors already eat up a ton of the profits, and when you figure in paying affiliates, buying content and plugins, paying for bandwidth, etc. that 10% is HUGE. Another thing... you pay affiliates, right? But you only pay once a month AND you pay 28 days AFTER the end of the pay period? That means that if someone starts promoting a program on the 1st of the month, it'd be about two full months before he got his first check. I doubt many affiliates would go for that. I only use a couple of monthly sponsors, and I use them only rarely. My main sponsor pays weekly and my secondary sponsor pays twice a month. Recently there was a poll about this subject and a pretty big chunk said they preferred weekly payouts or at least every two weeks. The only people that really liked monthly seemed to be people with so much money that cashing a check more than once a month was just too time consuming for them! Seriously. Lower that percentage and pay more often and you might get a few people signed up. __________________

03-24-2004, 03:05 PM	#6
taboo_dude Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: TN Posts: 707	bignasty we will take that into consideration. Alien, very professional commentary there, where did you learn those words in 2nd grade? We have a system setup that ensures no cheating or shaving. Some webmasters are more than willing to pay 10% of their commissions for that sense of security for their program. But we that is not all we do, unless you live under a rock, you have seen our clients get a lot or press and promotion. Couple that with software that has been in existence for seven years and the experience of helping thousand of clients and hundred of thousands of affiliates in the mainstream we will be a force to be reckon with in the adult industry. In the works, cascading billing within three weeks and after that we will be rolling out our new tracking that we hase been a work in progress for over a year. I would end this with a really smart remark like yours but I'm not feeling that low today __________________ If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. The Duke.

03-24-2004, 03:42 PM	#7
fyrflygrl Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 250	We've always made a practice of hearing what clients and visitors have to say about our services/site and business...including pricing. BigNasty, thanks for the suggestion... join and I'll exclude you from all mailings Tootie, we've just implemented bi-weekly payments and epassporte is only days away... so we're increasing our range of payment options.. I'm looking forward to this for affiliates TabooRevenue is priced for the webmaster that would rather pay an honest 40%, than advertise 60% and shave 20% across the board to accomodate his overhead. Additional services like affiliate payment help lower cost for you and the program promotion we do is something that independant webmasters don't have the time for, or budget to dedicate a human resource for. We've some damn good affiliates, too Fyrflygrl __________________ Fyrflygrl! Reciprocal links are great, but you can get High Ranked one way links at LinkAdage Auctions!

03-24-2004, 03:42 PM	#8
zentz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 8,053	interesting __________________ Programs that owe me money ---- Epassporte.com ~ $2700 \| Protraffic.com ~ $2600 \| XonDemand.com ~ $3000 Email: [email protected]

03-24-2004, 07:14 PM	#9
taboo_gal Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 151	I think my coworkers covered it, but you really think that 10% is too much when you get not only software, but also someone to manage, promote and pay affiliates for you? How long have you all been in this business and do you honestly consider it a business? You don't get something for nothing anymore. It requires a serious investment and lots of work. Ask those who've been around for a while. Bignasty, I do appreciate your feedback and it will be discussed. I do have a question, though. Why is it an issue for a company you've chosen to webmaster for to email you with new sponsors, special offers, helpful marketing material and opps to earn more cash? This is the whole reason behind it and I would like to know, honestly, why you avoid programs that offer such. __________________

03-24-2004, 07:16 PM	#10
=^..^= Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ICQ 380-366 Posts: 6,935	I need built in shave feature - you got that? __________________ #RememberYourRoots #AaronMForGFYHOF

03-24-2004, 07:19 PM	#11
taboo_gal Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 151	Damn...we forgot to include that! __________________

03-25-2004, 06:18 AM	#15
taboo_gal Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 151	bump... I don't want anyone to miss this opp. __________________

03-25-2004, 07:29 AM	#16
Lykos Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: World Posts: 31,027	Hmmm...to much i think.... __________________

03-25-2004, 10:03 AM	#21
undermyspell Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 875	I think a lot of people are missing the point here. I see a lot of bitching about Taboo Revenue charging 10%. Who's bitching about it the wanna be's? First, when you purchase/rent the MPA system you pay out the ass for it. Plus, if you need any revisions done you pay out the ass for the service that is more often than not a timely process. Second, with MPA do you get anything but headaches and bad press because you're using the software? I'm sure most of the people using it have experienced the stats problems and the bugs that cost you time, money and a slice of your reputation because it's out of your hands how the program is going to act. Third, Taboo Revenue is a for profit business just like the rest of us and they deserve to make a profit for their hardwork and committment. I'm not sure how many of you know these people but they are excellent people that are very committed to making your business successful or if it's already successful to help it grow even more so. Are you aware that their staff spends hours daily promoting the companies they work for through message boards, press releases and such? Are you aware that several of the companies they work with have been featured on Tech TV? How's that for exposure? I'm sure that the marketing people that you employ can secure that kind of exposure for you. When you think about everything you get with Taboo including the fact that they DO not and WILL not ever shave your clients and they send out the payments for you on time then the 10% is really not a huge issue. Especially considering the fact that many of you programs have to pay fees to your banks for checks to be printed, a fee for each check that you write, time spent by an employ to prepare and mail those checks, additional money to send those checks overseas, etc. etc. You pay an accountant, you pay a marketer, you pay several people to handle portions of your business so why not pay a reputable company to handle the affiliate portion of your business? Affiliates are the reason that you're in business and the Taboo people know how to handle them properly. For the record, I don't work for Taboo, I have interacted with them several times at various conventions and would trust my affiliate program to them before I would trust it to in house employees. I have always recommended them to anyone that's in need of an affiliate program solution.

03-26-2004, 07:30 AM	#24
taboo_gal Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 151	I must be under my quota of abuse this week. I'm bumping this thread again! __________________