Aliens? Give us reasons/evidence why they exist

[MetaformX]

Aliens...Give us reasons/evidence why they exist.

[axelcat]

Flaggstaff

[<IMX>]

Have you ever been to Texas or Cali?

There are aliens all over the place down there.

[NoCarrier]

Originally posted by MetaformX
Aliens...Give us reasons/evidence why they exist.

You

[torrey]

Originally posted by MetaformX
Aliens...Give us reasons/evidence why they exist.

Bill Gates

[mrthumbs]

the question is: give us reasons/evidence why the dont exist..

[erehwon]

Originally posted by MetaformX
Aliens...Give us reasons/evidence why they exist.

Elvis is not dead. He just went home.

[klik]

because i said so.

[blackmonsters]

Proof:

0 x &infin; = 1 (zero times infinity equals one)

A critical function of physical reality and the axiom by which
the fundamental theorem of calculus cannot be solved without.

Now in english:

This states something such as, it is zero percent chance that the sun will not rise tomorrow but as tomorrow approaches infinity it becomes certain that the sun will burn out and on that tomorrow there will be a 100% chance that the sun will not rise.

Stated another way, anything that is impossible to occur will nevertheless occur anyway before the end of time. This is true because time will never end.

Assumption: There is 0% chance that aliens exist some where in space.
Fact: Space is infinite.

Therefore the final equation to determine the probability of aliens existing is 0% evaluated over infinity which as the axiom states is equal to 1. What is 1 in math? It's 100%!!!

Not believing that other life exist is simply a matter of being mathematically ignorant.

[Dirty F]

The chances that earth is the only planet in the universe with life are extremely small. We are nothing, the universe is so so so fucking huge that our small mind cannot even imagine it.
I bet there are tons of different life forms out there.

I dont believe earth is visited by aliens. I dont believe in ufo's.

Its also sad to know that all those people who say they saw aliens always describe it as the stereotype alien you see in cartoons and stuff. The chance another life form from another planet has a head, 2 legs, 2 arms etc is also extremely small. It would be a 1 in million chance a 1 cell organism on another planet eventually grows in the same way as humans or animals as we know them.

[Dirty F]

Also, there was probably life way before earth existed. Earth is a relatively young planet. The universe is so fucking much older than earth that it simply would be ridiculous to think we would be the first or only planet with life on it.

[BigPinPin]

this is not correct...the movie industrie shows them how they heard about them...i dont talk of alien 1-4 i just talk about this standard alien movies. What about the dinosaurs ??? Lets say they would follow in the past the whole evolution...how would they look today? what would they do?

I think theres more even on planet earth than we imagine.....and that we are alone in this big universe is not very unlikely.

Think some hundreads of years back...the people thougt earth is a disc...and so on

[nathan_f]

Because we exist and the universe is so massive. Odds are there is another planet the same size revolving around a sun the same size as ours out there somewhere, and that is a pretty good start.

[Plan9]

What more do you need?!

[Living For Today]

aliens dont exist

very well said Battuss

of course, this only makes sense in those who believe in Evolution

I believe in evolution, therefore I also believe that the chances of us being the only ones in the universe are pretty fucking close to 0%

[ldinternet]

Originally posted by Plan9

I'd hit it, Diana Ross is a fucking babe!

[XLegendX]

I am the evidence.

Although outwardly, I look mostly human, inside of this shell resides a plethora of ' alien ' entities. I just have a hold on them through years of personal observation and the hell (and heaven) they've put me through. They attacked me at an early age and made no task out of conceiling themselves from me.

You, most likely, also have ' aliens ' residing in you, as most people do, that they are just unaware of. I know this because I see them in people, I hear them in people, I feel them in people, and at times I can hear the dialogue between one that is in me and one that is in another. And, of course, I always hear their banter in myself.

They are not flesh and blood as we are, as you do not need a flesh and blood body to exist (it's actually something of a hinderance). ' alien ' craft, the real footage you will notice that the ' craft ' is a sort of round blob, I have a collection of over 100 of these clips taken from around the world -- people assume that the blob of light is a craft, well no, it is not a craft at all, it is the alien ITSELF. What we see and assume as a craft is the entity! That is why they morph, and they are not even in this realm which gives us the impressions that their craft are so fast, and their movements are choppy. That is because of interdimensional shifting while in movement. What is being seen is an entity moving in and out of this ' realm ' or dimension in it's "Light Body, Merkaba" (has been called many things over the years by many cultures and people.)

Flesh and blood alien beings, no, that is yet to be seen or proven, but I can prove to you that the aliens of today are what were considered the ' demons ' and ' angels ' of the past. Now, while that sounds religious, you must understand that people again assumed things about the entities, when they saw extraordinary things -- good and bad things, or were told extraordinary informations and revelations by these ' aliens ' as we call them now, suddenly you have cultures springing up religions. No, not all aliens are nice as per our human standards, some are quite harmful, and they have harmed people I love. Other times they were very informative. Hence the ' Demons ' (bad to us) ' Angels ' (good to us). Angel means "Messenger," by the way.

Why do they like to share bodies with us, to scare us and at times to help us? To sum it up to you, the ones that share bodies with us that are of the ' demonic ' or (bad) kind do so because they are dying, they are shrinking. Their ' light ' bodies must be sustained, and so they leach onto us and suck our light in order to survive. I shall suppose that this is where the myth of the vampire sprung from. By sucking our energy (our light) it causes many problems, such as depression in people. I could tell a lot about these kinds but I will leave it at that for now. The knowledge of this type could probably fill a 600 page book.

It isn't some personal vendetta that they have, it is no different than a tick latching onto it's prey such as a deer walking through a forest. It is trying to survive, no it doesn't serve us, it serves itself, they hurt us if we let them and we're especially vulnerable when we're not aware of them! Therefore, they dislike me typing any of this :o)

The ones that help rarely ever intervene in the way that they share bodies. These are the ' angels ' and are quite adept at holding their own. They are the givers. While an ' angel ' could ' fall into darkness ' the chances of that are not likely and I suppose rare. I'm not even so sure that the angelic form actually enters the body --- instead they just transmit information. Like in Headless' post, you see them mostly as little balls of light surrounding people. These get picked up by the digital camera's if you're unable to see them with your eyes. The larger ones that are mistaken for flesh and blood alien craft I do not know any more about the larger ones than what I have stated here. I am just told that the ' craft ' is the entity. I am also told that they stay so far away because their light is actually injurious to our bodies. If you were to be able to go up into the sky and touch it, your human body would become a pile of ashes.

If you could ask an ' alien ' 1 question, what would it be? I will do my best to get the answer from one of these entities and get the information to you.

I will only answer MetaformX, as I do not have the time to play 1000 questions.... or really even discuss these things. I know that I should more, I know that I lack there, but it gets so redundant, and so maybe some day I will outline a book -- till then be the good observer
:o)

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by <IMX>
Have you ever been to Texas or Cali?

There are aliens all over the place down there.

He means the Unidentified not the Illegal ones

[Shagpipe]

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/thalass2.htm

[The Truth Hurts]

Originally posted by MetaformX
Aliens...Give us reasons/evidence why they exist.

Mr. Fiction posts here every day.
All the evidence you should need.

[jimboc]

If they existed and were much more advanced, the chances are they would have contacted us by now

[DavePlays]

Originally posted by MetaformX
Aliens...Give us reasons/evidence why they exist.

I could tell you... but then I'd have to kill you.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Evidence?

If I gave evidence something weird would happen...

None of you would remember this thread ever exhisting...

[Theo]

i believe they exist, visit earth and have come in contact with various people. I don't consider their existence a threat, neither something we're gonna find more about anytime soon.

The best thing to actually cover a big conspiracy is to reveal it and make fun of it, humiliate it.

Few years ago a team of ex-NASA scientists sued the US govt for not opening the 50+ year old files regarding alien cases. The case ended up on court and the judge said he cpuldn't open some of the records. They further moved to more legal actions......on 2nd court that took place the judge gave them a 20 or so pages report that it was erased at 99% to protect info having to do with the security of states as he claimed. If there was nothing to hide these 50+ years old report would had become public like it was supposed to.

ok time to play need4speed

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by jimboc
If they existed and were much more advanced, the chances are they would have contacted us by now

You assume they will think like us. Also think about the enormous cost in travelling across the universe, not just the technical advances, the actual cost of building a space ship that can travel such vast distances.

Aliens existing does not mean they can get here.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

"Aliens existing does not mean they can get here."


I think they get here just fine.

[Vitasoy]

Originally posted by Plan9
What more do you need?!

Nope, that's good enough!

[blackmonsters]

Originally posted by charly
You assume they will think like us. Also think about the enormous cost in travelling across the universe, not just the technical advances, the actual cost of building a space ship that can travel such vast distances.

Aliens existing does not mean they can get here.

Exactly!!!

1. If any aliens are far more intelligent than humans then contacting us would be like you try to contact a fucking ant.
We've been here with ants for a million years and still don't
talk to them because they are too fucking stupid.

2. They will not attack us if they are smarter than us because they are smart enough to know that every new technology used against an enemy was eventaully captured and or copied and used against the attacker. Only one man had a gun until he fucking shot somebody! Now all his enemies in the world have his weapon.

3. Humans are the only beings on earth that are arrogant enough to think another life form would be interested in us in any other way besides a source of food.

4. If aliens are anything like humans then they will kill us and eat us before they talk to us because besides a few pets, the only contact humans have with other life forms involves killing it or eating it or putting it in a cage for our kids to look at.

5. If human history tells us the future then the only reason we are looking for a new form of life is so that we can kill it.
Any alien with a brain would know that and avoid us like the plague.


And last, why would an alien visit earth more than we visit the moon? If they came here75,000 yrs ago then they saw the stupid fucking morons here and they had seen enough. For them to keep checking back to see our primative structures and technology develop would be like watching a beaver using a diferrent wood in his stupid dam.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by jimboc
If they existed and were much more advanced, the chances are they would have contacted us by now

No no, thats why i already said that our mind cannot even understand how big the universe is. No matter how advanced other life forms may be, the universe is simply way too fucking big to just bump into each other. Even if one can travel at the speed of light you still would need years just to visit the nearest star. Let alone the billions of other stars.

[Alky]

supposedly there is an infinite amount of universes... to think ours is the only one with life is ludicris.

[Lykos]

Originally posted by torrey
Bill Gates

[MetaformX]

Originally posted by Plan9
What more do you need?!

ahah. for some reason he looks better in this picture than usual.

[pimplink]

Bacause... there's a Alien right next to me!

[eroswebmaster]

Have they been to earth? who knows.

But I believe life exists elsewhere....I think it was Stephen Hawkings who said it was pretty much a mathematical certainty..

[goBigtime]

[Triple 6]

Originally posted by XLegendX
I am the evidence.

Although outwardly, I look mostly human, inside of this shell resides a plethora of ' alien ' entities. I just have a hold on them through years of personal observation and the hell (and heaven) they've put me through. They attacked me at an early age and made no task out of conceiling themselves from me.

You, most likely, also have ' aliens ' residing in you, as most people do, that they are just unaware of. I know this because I see them in people, I hear them in people, I feel them in people, and at times I can hear the dialogue between one that is in me and one that is in another. And, of course, I always hear their banter in myself.

They are not flesh and blood as we are, as you do not need a flesh and blood body to exist (it's actually something of a hinderance). ' alien ' craft, the real footage you will notice that the ' craft ' is a sort of round blob, I have a collection of over 100 of these clips taken from around the world -- people assume that the blob of light is a craft, well no, it is not a craft at all, it is the alien ITSELF. What we see and assume as a craft is the entity! That is why they morph, and they are not even in this realm which gives us the impressions that their craft are so fast, and their movements are choppy. That is because of interdimensional shifting while in movement. What is being seen is an entity moving in and out of this ' realm ' or dimension in it's "Light Body, Merkaba" (has been called many things over the years by many cultures and people.)

Flesh and blood alien beings, no, that is yet to be seen or proven, but I can prove to you that the aliens of today are what were considered the ' demons ' and ' angels ' of the past. Now, while that sounds religious, you must understand that people again assumed things about the entities, when they saw extraordinary things -- good and bad things, or were told extraordinary informations and revelations by these ' aliens ' as we call them now, suddenly you have cultures springing up religions. No, not all aliens are nice as per our human standards, some are quite harmful, and they have harmed people I love. Other times they were very informative. Hence the ' Demons ' (bad to us) ' Angels ' (good to us). Angel means "Messenger," by the way.

Why do they like to share bodies with us, to scare us and at times to help us? To sum it up to you, the ones that share bodies with us that are of the ' demonic ' or (bad) kind do so because they are dying, they are shrinking. Their ' light ' bodies must be sustained, and so they leach onto us and suck our light in order to survive. I shall suppose that this is where the myth of the vampire sprung from. By sucking our energy (our light) it causes many problems, such as depression in people. I could tell a lot about these kinds but I will leave it at that for now. The knowledge of this type could probably fill a 600 page book.

It isn't some personal vendetta that they have, it is no different than a tick latching onto it's prey such as a deer walking through a forest. It is trying to survive, no it doesn't serve us, it serves itself, they hurt us if we let them and we're especially vulnerable when we're not aware of them! Therefore, they dislike me typing any of this :o)

The ones that help rarely ever intervene in the way that they share bodies. These are the ' angels ' and are quite adept at holding their own. They are the givers. While an ' angel ' could ' fall into darkness ' the chances of that are not likely and I suppose rare. I'm not even so sure that the angelic form actually enters the body --- instead they just transmit information. Like in Headless' post, you see them mostly as little balls of light surrounding people. These get picked up by the digital camera's if you're unable to see them with your eyes. The larger ones that are mistaken for flesh and blood alien craft I do not know any more about the larger ones than what I have stated here. I am just told that the ' craft ' is the entity. I am also told that they stay so far away because their light is actually injurious to our bodies. If you were to be able to go up into the sky and touch it, your human body would become a pile of ashes.

If you could ask an ' alien ' 1 question, what would it be? I will do my best to get the answer from one of these entities and get the information to you.

I will only answer MetaformX, as I do not have the time to play 1000 questions.... or really even discuss these things. I know that I should more, I know that I lack there, but it gets so redundant, and so maybe some day I will outline a book -- till then be the good observer
:o)

u must be alien if u think any1 here is gonna read all that shit.

[kowntafit]

Nice argument Blackmonster.

Seems you have been paying attention in class.
Well said.

[bhutocracy]

statistical probability. However, they've never "visited".

[reynold]

I'm getting a lot of information here.....

[Arousal Design]

Originally posted by blackmonsters


Exactly!!!

1. If any aliens are far more intelligent than humans then contacting us would be like you try to contact a fucking ant.
We've been here with ants for a million years and still don't
talk to them because they are too fucking stupid.

2. They will not attack us if they are smarter than us because they are smart enough to know that every new technology used against an enemy was eventaully captured and or copied and used against the attacker. Only one man had a gun until he fucking shot somebody! Now all his enemies in the world have his weapon.

3. Humans are the only beings on earth that are arrogant enough to think another life form would be interested in us in any other way besides a source of food.

4. If aliens are anything like humans then they will kill us and eat us before they talk to us because besides a few pets, the only contact humans have with other life forms involves killing it or eating it or putting it in a cage for our kids to look at.

5. If human history tells us the future then the only reason we are looking for a new form of life is so that we can kill it.
Any alien with a brain would know that and avoid us like the plague.


And last, why would an alien visit earth more than we visit the moon? If they came here75,000 yrs ago then they saw the stupid fucking morons here and they had seen enough. For them to keep checking back to see our primative structures and technology develop would be like watching a beaver using a diferrent wood in his stupid dam.

This is one of the funniest threads i've ever read. Also, pretty damn poignant... thanks for that quality post.

[salo18]

Frank Drake

http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious..._equation.html

The Drake Equation was developed by Frank Drake in 1961 as a way to focus on the factors which determine how many intelligent, communicating civilizations there are in our galaxy. The Drake Equation is:

N = N* fp ne fl fi fc fL
The equation can really be looked at as a number of questions:

N* represents the number of stars in the Milky Way Galaxy

Question: How many stars are in the Milky Way Galaxy?
Answer: Current estimates are 100 billion.
fp is the fraction of stars that have planets around them

Question: What percentage of stars have planetary systems?
Answer: Current estimates range from 20% to 50%.
ne is the number of planets per star that are capable of sustaining life

Question: For each star that does have a planetary system, how many planets are capable of sustaining life?
Answer: Current estimates range from 1 to 5.
fl is the fraction of planets in ne where life evolves

Question: On what percentage of the planets that are capable of sustaining life does life actually evolve?
Answer: Current estimates range from 100% (where life can evolve it will) down to close to 0%.
fi is the fraction of fl where intelligent life evolves

Question: On the planets where life does evolve, what percentage evolves intelligent life?
Answer: Estimates range from 100% (intelligence is such a survival advantage that it will certainly evolve) down to near 0%.
fc is the fraction of fi that communicate

Question: What percentage of intelligent races have the means and the desire to communicate?
Answer: 10% to 20%
fL is fraction of the planet's life during which the communicating civilizations live

Question: For each civilization that does communicate, for what fraction of the planet's life does the civilization survive?
Answer: This is the toughest of the questions. If we take Earth as an example, the expected lifetime of our Sun and the Earth is roughly 10 billion years. So far we've been communicating with radio waves for less than 100 years. How long will our civilization survive? Will we destroy ourselves in a few years like some predict or will we overcome our problems and survive for millennia? If we were destroyed tomorrow the answer to this question would be 1/100,000,000th. If we survive for 10,000 years the answer will be 1/1,000,000th.
When all of these variables are multiplied together when come up with:
N, the number of communicating civilizations in the galaxy.

Thats some interesting stuff.
There must be some kind of life out there..

[venturi]

I merely skimmed this thread because frankly It's almost 3am and I need to go to bed, but one comment grabbed me...

charly, you brought up "cost". What makes you think that cost has had anything to do with anything? Are you assuming that all intelligent life uses currency as we idiotic humans do? I really hope not.

These "travellers" could be using technology that would make us look stoneage by comparison. I'm not saying they exist, I'm just saying that - for us to think we are the supreme inhabitants of the Universe would be a very arrogant assumption and geez, to quote Jodi Foster "that would be a big waste of space".

Is there other life out there? I certainly hope so as it makes no sense logically or otherwise to create an empty universe excepting our planet. Creationist or Evolutionist or Fucktardinist it makes no sense. Maybe we're not ready to meet, maybe we're too immature right now for contact. But alone? I don't think so.

[wild-cat]

Originally posted by erehwon


Elvis is not dead. He just went home.

[Mr. Marks]

They're real because al lot of weird things have been happening and we haven't been able to explain them. These are things that are impossible for a man to do, like the crops and other stuff like that.

[riosluts]

They do exist. If not what crashed into Roswell in the 1950's. Also during world war two pilots on both sides reported seeing lights following the aircrafts, and they must of been aliens.

[Ic3m4nZ]

There is a superior life somewhere else in the universe without a doubt.. and there's aliens on earth .. and chupacabras.. and everything you could imagine

[mardigras]

The universe is too big for there to not be any other lifeforms.

[Rhino22]

A while back when I was a little kid, I believe I saw a UFO over the mountains on the freeway. Other than that, I have never encountered anything "Extra Terrestrial".

However, I do believe aliens exist. The universe is gigantic. Why should we be the only ones occupying it?