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Old 03-23-2004, 03:40 PM   #1
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CCBILL processing for Kiddie Porn again!!!

The cockholsters at CCBill no NO boundaries - they will do anything for money include process for kiddie porn!!

I was going through links on PornMO and went to Don't post this stuff here. Go to CCbill with it or let ASACP know about it. from there I clicked on a photo and was sent to this site.

Don't post this stuff here. Go to CCbill with it or let ASACP know about it.

Look who process for this shit!!!!

It is CCBILL....

I guess the Caldwells need more money.... Or maybe they are just keeping it up to help and active FBI investigation? HAHA BULLSHIT!!

The owners of CCBILL are cockholsters and will do anything for money include process for kiddie porn!!!!

Needless to say We will continue to NOT do business with CCBILL,and teenhqpics.com is BANNED from anything we do!!
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Mike, we certainly do NOT condone CP and have already started investigating the account you posted. That is all that I am going to say at this point
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Mike, we certainly do NOT condone CP and have already started investigating the account you posted. That is all that I am going to say at this point
BULLSHIT - this has been going on for years with CCBILL!!

Someone already changed the link, Don't post this stuff here. Go to CCbill with it or let ASACP know about it. I have it screen capped as well!!

The processing code Don't post this stuff here. Go to CCbill with it or let ASACP know about it.
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Mike, icq me or reply with an icq #, i am not seeing what you initially claimed and need to investigate this

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the account # you posted goes to an completely unrelated url, and the url you posted is not in our system

i need to see what you were looking at

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How easy would it be for me to setup a totally legitimate site and then later on switch the tour and content to something illegal? I would have to bet that it isn't too difficult.
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the account # you posted goes to an completely unrelated url, and the url you posted is not in our system

i need to see what you were looking at

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post your e-mail and I will send you a screen cap.

Go here http://allhotpix.com/?id=teenhqpics.com and jsut start clicking around, eventually you will get to it!
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they prolly read this thread cause all those links are redirecting with to pages with old ars codes in it.
Maybe ars will tell you who the pedo pushers are.

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I wish purecash would process with ccbill, then I wouldnt get handwritten checks that are consistently 3-4 weeks late.
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I wish purecash would process with ccbill, then I wouldnt get handwritten checks that are consistently 3-4 weeks late.


Which reminds me... I just checked my account, apparently they owe me $70 from old traffic I guess. What are the payout dates?
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I wish purecash would process with ccbill, then I wouldnt get handwritten checks that are consistently 3-4 weeks late.
What a fucking moron you are!!!

If you noticed we moved the company to Florida, had to get new bank, checking accounts - so temporarily the checks were being hand written.

As far as late - that is BULLSHIT - our checks have always gone out on time!!

Why did you post in this thread? Do you support kiddie porn? I have always thought you were ok - but obviously you are fucking tard!!
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Which reminds me... I just checked my account, apparently they owe me $70 from old traffic I guess. What are the payout dates?
e-mail me your account info and I will look into it.

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post your e-mail and I will send you a screen cap.

Go here http://allhotpix.com/?id=teenhqpics.com and jsut start clicking around, eventually you will get to it!
i have clicked around and cannot reproduce what you had claimed

dont think that it is a good idea to send the type of material that you claimed it was over email, not sure exactly what you have a screencap of

i would like to get in touch with you so that you could walk me through step by step how you were able to link what you have a screenshot of to a ccbill account

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What a fucking moron you are!!!

If you noticed we moved the company to Florida, had to get new bank, checking accounts - so temporarily the checks were being hand written.

As far as late - that is BULLSHIT - our checks have always gone out on time!!

Why did you post in this thread? Do you support kiddie porn? I have always thought you were ok - but obviously you are fucking tard!!
So everyone that processes with CCBILL supports CP? thats a pretty stupid statement to make..

You should of emailed affiliates and told them you were going to fuck up the payments, If you want me to scan the check and then post a screenshot of my stats so you can corespond with how LATE it was, or if you want me to show the emails I've sent just to track this down..

Anyways, It's obviously not worth the hassle, I will take the shit down today.
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What's there to look into? I'm just asking for payout dates. As far as I know all $70 was made this past Sunday.

Hell I might even have my account set at $100, I have no idea. This is just extra money, I stopped actively sending traffic a while ago. Must be trickle down sales...
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What's there to look into? I'm just asking for payout dates. As far as I know all $70 was made this past Sunday.

Hell I might even have my account set at $100, I have no idea. This is just extra money, I stopped actively sending traffic a while ago. Must be trickle down sales...
You expect a check to be issued, mailed and arrive all within 2 days on earnings from Sunday?
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You expect a check to be issued, mailed and arrive all within 2 days on earnings from Sunday?
And where did I say that?
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Pipecrew, hit me up so I can look into what you are talking about, 33484716 or lukem @ hirise . com.

Sly, Our payouts are on the 7th and 22nd for the previous period. Hit me up so I can take a look at your account.
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So everyone that processes with CCBILL supports CP? thats a pretty stupid statement to make..

You should of emailed affiliates and told them you were going to fuck up the payments, If you want me to scan the check and then post a screenshot of my stats so you can corespond with how LATE it was, or if you want me to show the emails I've sent just to track this down..

Anyways, It's obviously not worth the hassle, I will take the shit down today.


First, I did not say people who process with ccbill support CP, I said that the owners of CCBILL support and porcess for CP - they have been for over 5 years.

As far as your account, since I do not know your account name I am a disadvantage. The only way a check would have been held up would have been to check for FRAUD.

We did not have to contact affilaites because we had overlapping checking accounts, all checks went out on time ( except those held for potential fraud) to ensure they did not go out late we got normal checks and had accounting hand write them.
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What's there to look into? I'm just asking for payout dates. As far as I know all $70 was made this past Sunday.

Hell I might even have my account set at $100, I have no idea. This is just extra money, I stopped actively sending traffic a while ago. Must be trickle down sales...
Sly after reading your post below pipesucker I assumed you were saying you were paid late. Luke just checked your account the sales were made recently and thus the check will go out on time, like always.

Maybe you should try to send some more "old traffic" as you can see our convesions have been dong very well past month!
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First, I did not say people who process with ccbill support CP, I said that the owners of CCBILL support and porcess for CP - they have been for over 5 years.

As far as your account, since I do not know your account name I am a disadvantage. The only way a check would have been held up would have been to check for FRAUD.

We did not have to contact affilaites because we had overlapping checking accounts, all checks went out on time ( except those held for potential fraud) to ensure they did not go out late we got normal checks and had accounting hand write them.

Anyways, I dont care anymore

We have never had a fraud issue, however I do have a collection of emails from your support staff that start like this.

"Sorry for the delay in payment - Not to sound cliche', but the
check IS in the mail - we'd had some minor bookeeping delays
on our end here at the Purecash offices, and didn't get payments
send until"

I hope you guys get things worked out, I guess my traffic just didnt click with you guys, I need to find something new anyways.

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By the way, is your stats system acting up today? I'm seeing some REALLY weird numbers.
I will have Edd kick the server - hamster is probably taking a break.
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Anyways, I dont care anymore

We have never had a fraud issue, however I do have a collection of emails from your support staff that start like this.

"Sorry for the delay in payment - Not to sound cliche', but the
check IS in the mail - we'd had some minor bookeeping delays
on our end here at the Purecash offices, and didn't get payments
send until"

I hope you guys get things worked out, I guess my traffic just didnt click with you guys, I need to find something new anyways.

I am confused, first you say we sent a check late but we should have sent out affilaites e-mail letting them know what is going on. Yet on latest post you claim that you did indeed get an e-mail explaining the situation. Which is correct? The first story or the second one?

As far as traffic. Your conversions are well below average. You can e-mail me michael at hirise dot com or Luke and we can help you with that.

Now can we get back on topic?

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Custom Software does that sometimes eh?

Yeah, luckily its not custom.... we are using TrueStats.

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I am confused, first you say we sent a check late but we should have sent out affilaites e-mail letting them know what is going on. Yet on latest post you claim that you did indeed get an e-mail explaining the situation. Which is correct? The first story or the second one?

As far as traffic. Your conversions are well below average. You can e-mail me michael at hirise dot com or Luke and we can help you with that.

Now can we get back on topic?


Proactive - Emailing Affiliates when you realize there may be a problem.

Reactive - Responding to affiliates when they email you and tell you there is a problem


All the emails I've received from support, where after I emailed initially wondering where the checks were.


Back on Topic we go!
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Right, that is a legitimate explaination - but for those of us who have been around for more then a few years, we know CCbills track record.

CCBill consistently processed for beastie sites, kp sites and other garbage.

When called out on it, they would say "Beastie is legal in most states, so its ok" this is almost exacrly what Ron Cladwells father told me at the first Phoenix show!!

Then on the CP - the natural nude sites - they claimed they were keeping it up as part of an FBI investigation. Something I looked into, and never found any merit.

I was involved with a huge free hosting company, and thus dealt with these kind of issues, and assisted Custom Agents in actually nabbing some KP people.

CCBill has a dirty track record.... If this would have been any other processor, I would have picked up the phone and handled it.

You certainly won't see these issues with Jettis!
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CCBill has a dirty track record.... If this would have been any other processor, I would have picked up the phone and handled it.
I started a thread exactly like this like 2 years ago.

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Old 03-23-2004, 04:50 PM   #41
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Anway I have e-mailed Corvett from ccbill the screen shot as well as the other information. Hopefully it was a bait and switch situation and CCBill handles their business!

I have to go pack.... early flight to the Dominican Republic tommorow.
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:55 PM   #42
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Someone just sent me this in e-mail...



http://www.innocent-girl.com/ goes to http://www.dirtyteens.biz/HomeSexNetwork.html

Go to the root http://www.dirtyteens.biz/ and click around, you can see that there is tons of KP here.
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Of course they process for that shit, 90% of the people in this biz don't give a fuck cause it's all about the money. Anything for money without standards.
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Old 03-23-2004, 04:57 PM   #44
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Yo Mike why are you posting these links and calling it KP? Is it illegal material or are you talking about the preteen model sites. I'm not clicking the fucking link because they all disgust me, but I would hope you might clarify this otherwise you really really shouldn't be posting something if it's illegal even if you don't own it.
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:00 PM   #45
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Yo Mike why are you posting these links and calling it KP? Is it illegal material or are you talking about the preteen model sites. I'm not clicking the fucking link because they all disgust me, but I would hope you might clarify this otherwise you really really shouldn't be posting something if it's illegal even if you don't own it.
This is young girls 10-14 and its nude, some of it involves hardcore.

As far as posting you are right. This will be my last on the subject.

Your post above about greed motivating this industry is right on the mark. The reason why the industry is collapsing is due to this very reason.
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This is young girls 10-14 and its nude, some of it involves hardcore.

As far as posting you are right. This will be my last on the subject.

Your post above about greed motivating this industry is right on the mark. The reason why the industry is collapsing is due to this very reason.
Yep when it comes to biz I live by a couple rules and one of them is

not all money is smart money

If you can remember that then you're ahead of the game. Most of these people are short time, in and out in a flash, quick to take cash at any cost or they're just greedy as fuck and don't care about what they do.

Fuck both of them is what I've always said.
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Old 03-23-2004, 05:15 PM   #47
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Probably better results reporting CP to one of the organizations that investigate it (like ascap.com) than on a board.
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Probably better results reporting CP to one of the organizations that investigate it (like ascap.com) than on a board.
Awareness is good in an industry where reputation is everything.
That includes the responsibility to address and take note on problems publicly that educate and inform.

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Awareness is good in an industry where reputation is everything.
That includes the responsibility to address problems publicly.
you obviously dont know about the million dollar porn operations in Southern California that have absolutely NO PRESENCE on this board or any other.

you people need to stop thinking the adult industry lives and breathes on message boards.

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they prolly read this thread cause all those links are redirecting with to pages with old ars codes in it.
Maybe ars will tell you who the pedo pushers are.

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