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CDSmith 03-22-2004 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by malakajoe


That would be a big ass log to post here.

Totals man, just the totals. Not the entire detailed log.




But you don't want to "settle" this do you? No point in continuing this thread if you're not interested in solving the problem.





It's sad to see this kind of thread when the problem in question could be so easily settled, yet neither side wants to make the effort. I buy traffic in bulk from several sources regularly.... if I were to buy 500k uniques from this company and find that I only received under half of that you BET I'd be pissed off, so I can't help feeling a bit hesitant towards the company in question.


Whatever, knock yourselves out then.

malakajoe 03-22-2004 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ozzymosis1


He is more than welcome to send server logs to my boss.

[email protected]

Not a problem. Just as long as you send over your logs showing you sent it to me.

integrated 03-22-2004 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Totals man, just the totals. Not the entire detailed log.




But you don't want to "settle" this do you? No point in continuing this thread if you're not interested in solving the problem.





It's sad to see this kind of thread when the problem in question could be so easily settled, yet neither side wants to make the effort. I buy traffic in bulk from several sources regularly.... if I were to buy 500k uniques from this company and find that I only received under half of that you BET I'd be pissed off, so I can't help feeling a bit hesitant towards the company in question.


Whatever, knock yourselves out then.

i think your a noisey parker

maybe you should step back abit and mind your own business

malakajoe 03-22-2004 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Totals man, just the totals. Not the entire detailed log.




But you don't want to "settle" this do you? No point in continuing this thread if you're not interested in solving the problem.





It's sad to see this kind of thread when the problem in question could be so easily settled, yet neither side wants to make the effort. I buy traffic in bulk from several sources regularly.... if I were to buy 500k uniques from this company and find that I only received under half of that you BET I'd be pissed off, so I can't help feeling a bit hesitant towards the company in question.


Whatever, knock yourselves out then.

I am ok settling it. But just showing totals won't do much. Not that verifiable.

I responded saying I will send the logs to them.

malakajoe 03-22-2004 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by integrated


i think your a noisey parker

maybe you should step back abit and mind your own business

Its cool. CD makes good points. I just am sick of traffic guys ripping people off and wanted to point out a potential nother one.

I probably went about it wrong with some of my wording. I will try and supply what I can to prove they didn't send the hits. I just want it to look legit so no one can come back with the usual reponses.

Herb Kornfield 03-29-2004 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ozzymosis1


We have no problem compensating people. But put yourself in our shoes. We get on average 3 fraudulent CC orders, 1 fraudulent paypal, and a handful of people trying to scam us in other ways every week.

If we went by everyone else's stats we would be out of business because of people trying to screw us.

We have compensated many clients, and will go the extra mile to make right if there is a problem.

Ozzy or John,

I need to talk to either of you on ICQ / email / phone about a refund... Ive emailed / called / emailed and still no repsonse....

Theo 03-29-2004 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NevDull
I bought 10k hits, most of which came from 404 traffic, largely from bigmommahosting.

Unfortunately, the traffic was crap. I looked a little into it...

bash-2.05$ grep bigmomma access_log.1 | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -1
1125 4.65.217.185
bash-2.05$

1125 hits from one IP? Hmm... let's look at it a little.

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | wc -l
817
bash-2.05$

817 of the referers for this one IP were jpgs redirecting to an HTML page?

No wonder it couldn't possibly convert.

They were thumbnails from Comus Thumbs...

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | head
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn406.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn98.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn424.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn97.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn84.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn392.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn414.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn59.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn47.jpg"
bash-2.05$

Effectively, even if it were a surfer, these thumbs would presumably be called from an img src=

OK, so what fucknut keeps trying to pull up jpgs for this long?

4.65.217.185 - - [20/Mar/2004:19:03:30 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 35991 "http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg" "Mozilla/3.0 [en] (AWV2.20r)"

I can't find any reference for what kind of User-Agent that is, but it smells bad to me.

I'm simply writing it off as a purchase I shan't make again... but I was urged to post my experience here by someone who saw this thread, and listened to me rant while I waited out the deluge of shitty traffic.

I have been getting traffic from other brokers which has great TGP productivity, and I'll continue to buy from those places.

I didn't expect amazing conversion ratios, but I *did* expect traffic which would actually see the fucking page.

*sigh*

-Nev

Ozzymosis1, can you comment on this as well?

Doctor Dre 03-29-2004 02:15 PM

Good fucking thing they didn't buy wild-cat'S sig :P

Doctor Dre 03-29-2004 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ozzymosis1


Hoping for some drama?

I was trying to talk to you over ICQ and you didn't want to talk. Now all the sudden you want drama?

I am proud to work for Fast Adult Traffic. We have a top notch team, and we deliver a top notch service. We sell traffic to some of the largest programs, and tgps on the net and they are happy with your traffic, customer support, and stats. We also sell to a very large amount of people here on GFY who are very happy with our service.

As I told you on ICQ most people are happy with our service but there are some who are not. That is the way it is with every business.

For you to come here and "hope for drama" is pretty immature and unprofessional. It is now obvious to me that you are just trying to make a name for yourself here on GFY. I will not contribute to that by getting in some pissing match with you. Take your drama to someone else.

Here we go again ... If you were selling to big players, they would come here and back you up . When I had trouble with my fucking cards, tons of people went in my thread and back me up . Almost all my customers that bough from me b4 on this board came up .

CDSmith 03-29-2004 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by integrated
i think your a noisey parker

maybe you should step back abit and mind your own business

disintegrated, I thought you had me on ignore?


I was trying to help these guys work out a problem. Step off and let men handle business things, mkay? Maybe close the trap and learn something.


It's obvious to anyone that isn't a moron that my posts here are not written to stir up shit but to try and facilitate a solution.

cluck 03-29-2004 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NevDull
I bought 10k hits, most of which came from 404 traffic, largely from bigmommahosting.

Unfortunately, the traffic was crap. I looked a little into it...

bash-2.05$ grep bigmomma access_log.1 | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -1
1125 4.65.217.185
bash-2.05$

1125 hits from one IP? Hmm... let's look at it a little.

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | wc -l
817
bash-2.05$

817 of the referers for this one IP were jpgs redirecting to an HTML page?

No wonder it couldn't possibly convert.

They were thumbnails from Comus Thumbs...

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | head
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn406.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn98.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn424.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn97.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn84.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn392.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn414.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn59.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn47.jpg"
bash-2.05$

Effectively, even if it were a surfer, these thumbs would presumably be called from an img src=

OK, so what fucknut keeps trying to pull up jpgs for this long?

4.65.217.185 - - [20/Mar/2004:19:03:30 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 35991 "http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg" "Mozilla/3.0 [en] (AWV2.20r)"

I can't find any reference for what kind of User-Agent that is, but it smells bad to me.

I'm simply writing it off as a purchase I shan't make again... but I was urged to post my experience here by someone who saw this thread, and listened to me rant while I waited out the deluge of shitty traffic.

I have been getting traffic from other brokers which has great TGP productivity, and I'll continue to buy from those places.

I didn't expect amazing conversion ratios, but I *did* expect traffic which would actually see the fucking page.

*sigh*

-Nev

I better go look through my logs!

I bought 10k 404 traffic not too long ago and it only had about a 10% CTR. Not only that, but only 15% got credit on fpctraffics exit program.

Herb Kornfield 03-29-2004 02:38 PM

50 warnings.... ozzy and john...its been over an hour now since weve started trying to contact////


where are you at about this refund?

cluck 03-29-2004 02:49 PM

Some research.

I get alot of hits from .jpg files from that server too.

For example:
http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/s...dkrmrv0010.jpg

- redirects to -

http://www.bigmommahosting.com/404/404.html

And sometimes the images for the ezines come up not found. Not sure what the deal is.

Also look at this one.

http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/p...et5/Index.html

All those broken images are going to sites like easypic, who I suppose either trades with them or bought a package.

Any answers on this?

fletcher 03-29-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NevDull
I bought 10k hits, most of which came from 404 traffic, largely from bigmommahosting.

Unfortunately, the traffic was crap. I looked a little into it...

bash-2.05$ grep bigmomma access_log.1 | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head -1
1125 4.65.217.185
bash-2.05$

1125 hits from one IP? Hmm... let's look at it a little.

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | wc -l
817
bash-2.05$

817 of the referers for this one IP were jpgs redirecting to an HTML page?

No wonder it couldn't possibly convert.

They were thumbnails from Comus Thumbs...

bash-2.05$ grep "4.65.217.185" access_log.1 | awk '{print $11}' | grep jpg | head
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn406.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn98.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn424.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn97.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn84.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn392.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn414.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn59.jpg"
"http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn47.jpg"
bash-2.05$

Effectively, even if it were a surfer, these thumbs would presumably be called from an img src=

OK, so what fucknut keeps trying to pull up jpgs for this long?

4.65.217.185 - - [20/Mar/2004:19:03:30 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 35991 "http://www.bigmommahosting.com/ct/thumbs/tn85.jpg" "Mozilla/3.0 [en] (AWV2.20r)"

I can't find any reference for what kind of User-Agent that is, but it smells bad to me.

I'm simply writing it off as a purchase I shan't make again... but I was urged to post my experience here by someone who saw this thread, and listened to me rant while I waited out the deluge of shitty traffic.

I have been getting traffic from other brokers which has great TGP productivity, and I'll continue to buy from those places.

I didn't expect amazing conversion ratios, but I *did* expect traffic which would actually see the fucking page.

*sigh*

-Nev

I had the exact same experience (same domain and everything) when I looked over the server logs of a friend who made a traffic purchase from them. I simply told him not to buy from them again, but since you're posting the exact same experience I think people should know. Well over a thousand were from the same IP, and I believe they were coming from images. I remember one of the biggest page referers was in Chinese (supposed US traffic).

Herb Kornfield 03-29-2004 02:52 PM

Weve found that all of our hits came from bigmommahosting as well.....80% Russian / Chinese traffic....

The reps there still arent answering their emails / cell phones / office phones / ICQs to just take care of the refund Ive been asking for....

Starting to wonder here.....

CDSmith 03-29-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
Starting to wonder here.....
Understatement.



Would be nice to hear ozzy's repsonse though.

ControlThy 03-29-2004 03:14 PM

Business would be so much easier without scammers...

pradaboy 03-29-2004 03:14 PM

wow Ozzy I'm truly disappointed to see the way you handle this... I was interested at buying traffic at FAT but after this I'm not gonna waste my money on it...

Seems to me you guys have a problem to solve at least in the customer relations section :2 cents:

High Quality 03-29-2004 03:24 PM

Thanks for the heads up man....

eurothumb 03-29-2004 03:51 PM

As lots of you know I run tgpbuilders.com where I buy every month 1Mill hits to the network of sites we are building.

I was looking to FAT a few hours ago wondering if I should buy from them to test them out or not...

THANK GOD I saw this thread.

chrisp420 03-29-2004 03:57 PM

eurothumb,

take my thread as a word to large traffic deals with them:

http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...hreadid=261051

:BangBang:

Down_Under 03-29-2004 04:06 PM

notice how theyve gone all quite


hits from jpgs


hits not delivered


hits from china


1100 hits form one ip


no responses from support



FAST ADULT TRAFFIC = SHIT

Joetanto 03-29-2004 04:10 PM

looks like i should have done better reading. bought 25k hits a few hours ago based on a post from KMR, maybe i should hold his balls until i get the traffic. I will post back here again after I get it all

Digipimp 03-29-2004 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joetanto
looks like i should have done better reading. bought 25k hits a few hours ago based on a post from KMR, maybe i should hold his balls until i get the traffic. I will post back here again after I get it all
They paid for his sig with traffic and all of a sudden he turned into a fucking customer service rep for them.

:1orglaugh

SubSonic 03-29-2004 04:31 PM

interesting thread .. so here's a bump :thumbsup

Roger 03-29-2004 04:31 PM

I bought some clicked traffic from FAT and I got a few signups. All the other traffic brokers never gave me any signups whatsoever, I usually had to send the traffic to TGP's.

strobi 03-29-2004 04:35 PM

ouch and they just bought alot of sigssssss:(

xxxdesign-net 03-29-2004 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joetanto
looks like i should have done better reading. bought 25k hits a few hours ago based on a post from KMR, maybe i should hold his balls until i get the traffic. I will post back here again after I get it all
LOL Fast Adult Traffic just bought his sig... unless they already sended him the traffic (in exchange of sig) .. which I would doubt.. how the fuck can he say "Very productive traffic :thumbsup "

:1orglaugh oh my...

SubSonic 03-29-2004 04:40 PM

seems, that the rep went to shit with that thread ... :2 cents:

strobi 03-29-2004 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SubSonic
seems, that the rep went to shit with that thread ... :2 cents:
guess so... bad news travels fast:(

the_wizz 03-29-2004 04:43 PM

I had this same experience a month or so ago. Except my hits came in a two hour window on a saturday or sunday morning.

Needless to say, I don't buy from them any more.

strobi 03-29-2004 04:46 PM

http://www.bigmommahosting.com/www/p...et5/Index.html

hahaha!!! that page is wild! look at the status bar! Easypic... and alot of others too!

rowan 03-29-2004 04:54 PM

That's the problem with 404 traffic, brokers don't properly filter it and pass through img srcs as site loads.

Even the biggies are not immune, I've had this happen with a large well known traffic guy. A particular thumb TGP had every thumb 404 (sounds familiar?) and so every time it was loaded about 100 img srcs got passed through to me as unique clicked traffic. They were really raw img srcs of course.

There's a variable called HTTP_ACCEPT (I think) which specifies the type of data the browser will accept. If it's an img src then that field will not include the phrase "text/html" and it shouldn't be passed through to buyers.

SubSonic 03-29-2004 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi


guess so... bad news travels fast:(

so true ... so fucking true :(

Tracy 03-29-2004 08:00 PM

:glugglug

Odin 03-29-2004 08:43 PM

<img src=http://thespacebulldog.com/Pics/chicken.gif> :evil-laug

DaLord 03-29-2004 08:52 PM

This will be a bumpy bump...

Kevin2 03-29-2004 10:23 PM

Thank goodness I read this thread. I was going to start purchasing traffic from them but there is now ways I'm doing that now.

TheSenator 03-29-2004 10:59 PM

Can anyone list reputable Traffic Brokers?

CDSmith 03-29-2004 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSenator
Can anyone list reputable Traffic Brokers?
I've personally sampled/tested every source of traffic listed on <a href="http://www.cdsmodels.com/traffic.html" TARGET="_blank">Paid Traffic Source</a>.


All clicked link sources, so it basically comes down to how good your marketing/webmastering skills are.


I don't promote sources with popup/under, exit, or 404 traffic. I've always found that those surfers mostly click the X and close the window, thus wasting your bandwidth and making you squat. Unless you're very sharp at converting that kind of traffic, clicked link traffic is the way to go.


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