Why don't you have your dog post here instead of forcing us to listen to your anti American bullshit.
:thumbsup

Once again Jesus Christ is the all wise and knowing one.......:thumbsup

Bimini:


Do you actually have a brain at all???

Did I take credit for "someone elses brain power"?? NO

Sheesh.. you are stupid!!

Have you actually got ANYTHING to say when presented by some facts - or are you just sliding sideways again with some GFY oneliners?? Do you now accept the facts of the US economy or not??

Oh hell.. amazingly funny if it was not so pathetically sad! :1orglaugh

i doubt it would happen short-term. that'd be another world war.

Bimini:

Yet another totally meaningless one-liner from a peabrain...

:1orglaugh

I agree, people are just blind and ignore the truth. More links, sources from all over the world including USA :)



http://www.oneworld.net/article/view/73234/1/
China is also using its large foreign currency reserves--a total of $356 billion--to buy more U.S. treasury bonds, which provide U.S. investors with capital for re-investment

http://wwwc.house.gov/International_...8/bian2021.htm
The People?s Republic of China presently receives approximately $4 billion each year from American taxpayers in the form of interest income on U.S. Treasury bonds held by the Chinese government. The PRC also enjoys a $100 billion annual trade surplus with the United States, giving them an estimated $400 billion current account. Yet the government of China continues its discriminatory evasion of payment to American bondholders. It is the position of the Chinese government that China should not have to honor their nation?s full faith and credit sovereign obligations if they choose not to. Such an insular worldview, flaunting the flagrant disregard of established principles of international trade and commerce, will not serve the interests of the PRC in the community of nations and is inconsistent with the status of the PRC as a most favored trading partner and member of the World Trade Organization. Such a posture can only act to harm the long term interests of both the United States and China.

The Economy:US to buy back national debt
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/...omy/411973.stm

It now says it will begin repurchasing Treasury bonds before they fall due, as early as next February, cutting back on the $3.6 trillion (£2.4 trillion) it owes to the public.

US Dollar Implosion - Part II
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials...eld120503.html

Asians Aren't Dumping U.S. Treasuries -- Yet
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...aCvJZv r6BM4I

China also has emerged a key U.S. Treasury holder. Maintaining its 8.3 peg to the U.S. dollar means buying lots of dollar assets. Politicians and manufacturers who complain that Beijing manipulates its currency to gain an unfair advantage fail to appreciate its role in holding down U.S. borrowing costs.

Bimini:

Ah!! That's what the "state of denial" is all about!! :-)

We are reduced to the "we hate America" bullshit - PATHETIC!!

Little do you know!

Aww don't be jealous pissant. Just because everyone else here has presented good arguement to represent both sides and you have done nothing but false represent and embarass yourself.

Don't feel bad. You will be "somebody" someday.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Webby; say what you will about America and its finances and its media, and you can even knock our webmasters, I suppose youre entitled to your opinion (in here anyway).

However, I personally am not affected by China policy. I live in a community with little crime, my child has the right to an education, and I have the right to bare arms.

Beyond the above mentioned the active term here is opinion.

I remember those students who were massacred in Tiananmen Square in 1989 for speaking their opinion.

http://pornslinga.com/entropybanner/tank-1.jpg

See now here is a GFY'er backing up the facts and presenting it like someone confident in there knowledge and beliefs.

Ya gotta respect that. :thumbsup

Bimini:

Still more patriotism showing thru there - you frightened of something??? :1orglaugh

Na.. don't bother answering - the content is nada! Keep your head in the sand and it will go away :-)

Here's something for you to read.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3430405.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3486561.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3430565.stm

Please read them before you flame Webby. Especially the last one.

Just because both countries have nukes doesnt mean they gotta use em. Any idiot with any sense knows that nukes = totally fucked for everyone involved. They either gonna stick with traditional warfare, or they're gonna both get disintigrated in 5 minutes.

Webby:

Why don't you read these facts?? I bet you ain't even looked or else you would not be behaving so stupid and may actually have some comment to make on these facts....

Your right about the oil. :)

China Now Second In Oil Consumption
China's fast-growing economy has overtaken Japan to become the world's second largest consumer of crude oil after the US
http://www.ruggedelegantliving.com/change/a/002062.html

China has total of 270 million cellular users as of the end of 2003 and around 60 million new users were added in the same year. See:
http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/do...tent_259693.htm (the news in 08/2003)

Broadband users in China:17.4 million. see: http://www.infoworld.com/article/04...ecommunications

China produced around 225 million tons of iron and steel and imported other 35 million tons in 2003 for the construction.
See: http://www.worldsteel.org/media/wsif/wsif2003.pdf

55% of the world cement (Another infrastructure construction index) was used in China. See http://www.economist.com/displaysto...tory_id=2446908

More that 13 million of PCs were sold in China in 2003. See http://biz.yahoo.com/rc/040212/tech_china_pcs_1.html

International trade in 2003
China topped 840B$ (import < export) in 2003. See: http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/do...tent_294145.htm

Mcdonads?s Business in China:
http://breaking.tcm.ie/2004/02/26/story135939.html

China has more than 400B$ reserve. See: http://www.china.org.cn/e-company/0.../page031222.htm
China has 160B$ external debt. Reserve >> debt

charly:

Hi Charly!

Hell.. you ever get that sinking feeling when you encounter some folks who clearly are unable to take stuff in?? :winkwink:

It kinda makes ya lose faith in human nature! :)

Yup, nukes are last resort. Only takes a few to hit soil and too many people are fucked up. :(

MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are scary good!

Can't you share some of that talent with WEBBY????? :1orglaugh

Dude that is not right, he thinks any news outside the US is all lies. You must give him CNN, Yahoo or at least Fox news :glugglug

Oh come on now.......................I accept BBC as a legit news source. Just the Asian Online Times one that was.............a bit of a stretch.

Bimini:

Oh.... *speechless*..... :-)

My... that is one state of denial that goes against even the US's own Treasury report and all media reports, both within the US and worldwide...

There is *nothing* to say to that.... just very sad....

BTW.. I liked the special serious effort to make *any* comment so far on US economics - you read *any* of the links yet???? :-)

Ya know WEBBY if you could take your ego out of the way for a bit you might rrealize that if you presented ANY kind of a factual arguement in your posts...................you would shut me down on the spot like charly and verisexy have.

:winkwink: :winkwink:

Bimini :

Who the fuck cares what you think as a "legit" news service?? You clearly have never actually absorbed *any* content they have to offer... unbelievable!!

Keep reading the National Enquirer - but just scan the pages and save that retention span - you will get a better understanding of anything to do with real life there :-)

Torrey you rock! You cut it to the core and told it like it is!

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Ahh - so you think Kerry will try again in 2008?


:winkwink:

The debt that the US is carrying does not present a problem at this point. If it did the majority of the Nation's economists would be shouting it from the mountain tops and they are not.

Could it just possibly be that the Webbys of the world don't know jack shit...about economy...or much of anything elese...but in their hatred of the US just like to spout their venom.

You are an enemy of my country (you have on multiple occasions called for the assassination of our President)...thus an enemy of mine. I would personally enjoy turning your face into a dripping mass of goo. :321GFY

Your starting to sound like and angry little bitch WEBBY. What happened to that Greenspan quoting genious in the begining of the thread????????
He sounds more like a 12 year old on the play ground now.
HA! Ha!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Bimini:

I got no desire to "shut you down" - the entertainment value is worth it!

Tho... have you actually got a response to anything or discussed anything with Charly or Verisexy?? Nope! That says it all!
:winkwink:

Have a good day and dream on!! :thumbsup

Hi Webby:
The problem with some Americans is they feel that criticising the country, administration, President is in some way anti American. In the 50/60s wereaccused of being a communist for speaking out.

The truth is that asking questions of your leaders is healthy and constructive.

Bush has done an awful job with the US economy and hurt most Americans living standards especially people here. We all rely on the surfer to buy something on the net, so a reduction in the ordinary mans income restricts his ability to buy from us. Most are complaining of a slow down in business, how much of that can be contributed to the ordinary man just having less to spend on his pleasures?

Give a bllionaire a million dollars and he is as likely to buy a new house in Paris as he is in New York. Give a million working men $100 and they are more likely to buy memberships to a porn site or tickets to the cinema. The money given to working people stays in the country. Unfortunately the working man does not contribute to the re-election funds and Presidents wealth.

SCOOOORCHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nite nite WEBBY!!!!!

Proves my point about those that criticise. His response is violent intimidation.

Idiot, you obviously did not read the articles I posted links to. Now go and educate yourself.

Bush is walking a fine line economically...there are smarter and better ways.

theking:

Excuse me!!! :1orglaugh

Na.. there is no problem!! What we got here is one massive trade surplus and zillions of countries owning the US money.

It's all lies by "anti American" terrorists and all em non-patriotic people!! :1orglaugh

Sheesh.. gimme a break from the GFY idiot element!! :1orglaugh

PS.. Did you not know several of "the Nation's economists" are voicing opinions that the US *could* be a "third world country* within two decades and many are VERY concerned, including members of the US government???

Im not quite as volitile as theking, but I understand his view.

Now that is pure beauty!

Clueless old man...the majority of the Nation's economists are not concerned with US debt at this point. What some economist say here or there is of little import...it would be of import if that were the consensus of the Nation's economists...but it isn't. The US has carried greater debt in relation to the GNP in the past.

President Reagan increased the National Debt by three trillion dollars during his term in office and a few economists predicted the collaspe of our economic system. It did not happen and is not going to happen in your lifetime...if ever.

Charly

Though I agree the reference to violence against WEBBY is a bit much and totally unnecessary. His point still is valid. I have no problem with anyone argueing policy, political differences, or party affiliation. It is fun, and part of what free speach is all about.

But WEBBY is someone that has posted some pretty out there shit on the boards about the person sitting in the White House right now. (repsect the office even if you don't respect the man) So he is going to inspire such passsionate reponse.

When he makes statements in his threads to the affect of........ the US has nukes so why shouldn't the CRAZED dictator of China be allowed to pursue nuclear proliferation?????? Then people like me tend to want to smack him in line and point out what a stupid thing that is to say.

You have presented very good reading material to make me see your side of it. And though I only skimmed it for now so that I can keep up with the "WEBBY antics" I will read it over the next day and we'll see what it does to change my over all opinion.

So thank you to you and to verisexy for (maybe) expanding my mind a bit.:thumbsup

i think he was more killed by being flattened by a tank

just my :2 cents:

p.s. france surrenders

HA!!!:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

So your view is to use violence to shut people up?

Nice view, maybe people in your area should be offered the same option. They may disagree with your freedom to be a pornographer and the use of violence to stop you.

Funny how for some the Constitution "Freedom of Speech" only applies to what they want to hear. Torrey and theidiot's statements are more anti American than anything Webby has said.

He is exercising hos right to speak out, they are advocating violence to take away that right.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2754283.stm


You should at least find relevant economists.

Among the supporters: Milton Friedman

You are as ignorant as you preach against. :2 cents:

Only time will tell if Bush has done the right thing.

My daddy got to go and kill the yellow man. Up till now, all I've been allowed to kill is the dune coon. I can't wait to go and get me some slanty-eyed chinks !

Sorry being ignorant I do not understand this.

Are you saying I'm as ignorant as you?

Theres a better target for ya charly. :321GFY

LOL did you even read my posts???

Webby...on multiple occasions has called for the assasination of the President of my country (if I recall correctly has offered to personally do it) and spouts venom about the US on an almost daily basis...as do you.

In the US it is against Feral Law to speak about doing harm to the President...is a felony...and their are people serving time for it...but irregardless of law...when you speak about assasinating the President of my country your exercise of freedom has ended as far as I am concerned.

FYI...the Constitution applies to the inhabitants of the US...not to you or to Webby...or any other foreign American bashing assholes. :321GFY

And a lot of your daddies friends got sent home in body bags. All for the purpose of defending a paddy field, a corrupt ruler and arms spending.

Easy to be brave on a message board.