I'm getting a lot of information here.....

This is one of the funniest threads i've ever read. Also, pretty damn poignant... thanks for that quality post.

Thats some interesting stuff. :)
There must be some kind of life out there..

I merely skimmed this thread because frankly It's almost 3am and I need to go to bed, but one comment grabbed me...

charly, you brought up "cost". What makes you think that cost has had anything to do with anything? Are you assuming that all intelligent life uses currency as we idiotic humans do? I really hope not.

These "travellers" could be using technology that would make us look stoneage by comparison. I'm not saying they exist, I'm just saying that - for us to think we are the supreme inhabitants of the Universe would be a very arrogant assumption and geez, to quote Jodi Foster "that would be a big waste of space".

Is there other life out there? I certainly hope so as it makes no sense logically or otherwise to create an empty universe excepting our planet. Creationist or Evolutionist or Fucktardinist it makes no sense. Maybe we're not ready to meet, maybe we're too immature right now for contact. But alone? I don't think so.

:Graucho :Graucho

They're real because al lot of weird things have been happening and we haven't been able to explain them. These are things that are impossible for a man to do, like the crops and other stuff like that.

They do exist. If not what crashed into Roswell in the 1950's. http://www.absolute-fantasy-art.com/history/alien.JPG Also during world war two pilots on both sides reported seeing lights following the aircrafts, and they must of been aliens.

There is a superior life somewhere else in the universe without a doubt.. and there's aliens on earth .. and chupacabras.. and everything you could imagine :thumbsup

The universe is too big for there to not be any other lifeforms.

A while back when I was a little kid, I believe I saw a UFO over the mountains on the freeway. Other than that, I have never encountered anything "Extra Terrestrial".

However, I do believe aliens exist. The universe is gigantic. Why should we be the only ones occupying it?

50 aliens.

yikes!! :eyecrazy

Everyone dwgs on Michael, but I bet Janet looks just as bad witout makeup. I gurantee it! :glugglug

WTF, everyone thinks everything is finite. Your arogant thinks you are in the realm of understanding. Well you are not. Man need to have yes or no answers because they can not bear there own lack of comprehension. Everything is thusly labeled black in white. Universal comprehension is not in the same thinking spectrum of man. So life probably exist and to think not is also someone that participates in man's decay. We cannot begin to grasp the thought of aliens, it is beyond our imaginations. But we were program with the possibility that we do hold in the truth clutched in our fist, which we don't. Who says that that there isn't multiple dimensions over on top of the wavelengths that we live in now? So now you just added multiple infinite possibilities to an infinite question now. So you now do you think the answer is in your reach now? [/rant]

Its a pretty "Black and White" Question though. There is no such thing as 1/2 dead. Its either one or the other.

There is Extraterrestrial life.
They have been here.
They are here now.:Graucho

They are everywhere.

Aliens first came here thousands of years ago. You can find documented archeological drawings of spacecraft shaped objects and beings wearing astronaut style helmets on cave walls all over the planet.

When we started playing with nuclear bombs for the first time, the UFO sightings over military bases jumped dramatically, in the US and in Russia. You can find tons of blacked out US government documents pertaining to sightings in all the military branch's historical file archives. If there is nothing being hidden from the public, why is so much blacked out on these files?

There are also procedures in every major fire station in the US which were drafted by the Air Force explaining what to do in the event of a CIRVIS (COMMUNICATIONS INSTRUCTIONS REPORTING VITAL INTELLIGENCE SIGHTINGS) event. Why?

If you look at the dramatic technology shift on this planet from relatively simple gadgets to incredibly sophisticated electronics it all coincides with the 50's and 60's timeline which is when our government first established contact and began working with them for scientific purposes.

Additionally from a purely logical analysis, if you calculate the vastness of the Universe, the fact that the basic ingredients for life are everywhere and not just in this sector, the odds are life forms of essentially the same type developed and eveloved over time just like they did here.

Obviously if a human like life form had developed a couple million years ahead of us, they would be so far advanced mentally and spiritually above us that we would be like apes to them.

And on a very simplistic level, to gaze into the heavens on a majestic starry night and have the arrogance to think we are it out of all of that is idiotic.

I've seen one UFO in my life. It was when I was studying astronmy in high school. I was out in my back yard with my telescope, looking up into the sky trying to decide which part of the sky to explore next and an extremely bright white small object went zooming across the sky. I thought wow I just saw an asteroid.

But it then did an instantaneous 90 degree turn and started zooming that way. I thought wow that asteroid just skipped off the atmosphere. Cool.

But it didn't disappear, it made another 90 degree turn and went zooming back exactly opposite its original incoming path and went back out into space.

I started to sweat and said to myself holy shit what the hell was that. Next thing I know a red colored object went flying across the same flight path in the sky. This one was even faster than the first one. It did a smoother turn than the first one which was a semi-circle and then zoomed back from the direction it had come in on.

I grabbed my telescope and ran in the house. Jumped in bed and pulled the covers over my head.

It isn't so hard to believe that there is life somewhere out there once we drop the assumption that they all have 2 eyes, arms, legs, yada yada..

I think that would be toooo coincidental.

And as far as such other life being more advanced that we are..

Consider this.. If 'aliens' came from a galaxy just 20 million lightyears away and landed here today, this means that they would have had the ability to travel at the speed of light 20 million years ago.. and if their little speedometer stayed on 186000 mps, it would have taken them 20 million years to get here.. Those squirrely little bastards would be kinda old when they got here I'm thinkin'..

Why assume the speed of light is as fast as you can go? Also why assume distance exists on the level we can understand it?

Aliens came here thousands (maybe millions) of years ago and bred with us to create what we are today.

Oh yeah, that too.
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