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Old 03-20-2004, 02:46 PM   #1
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Epic new story up - You wont regret reading!

Yesterday I got my account disabled for some unknown reason at epiccash. I had contact with 3 guys at epic and none of them wanted to tell what was the reason. I speak for another webmaster also that got his account shut down the same way. And yet another 3rd webmaster that told he got his account closed also.

For whatever motive epic has to close accounts, there must be a basic rule that goes to at least notifying webmasters when they are closing accounts.

I understand now what all those topics were about when other webmasters telling about epics poor service level. I feel such a hostile tone when they respond to simple inquiries.

But I guess the problem was that the epic indian member area is not ready for indian surfers, so the signups that I was sending couldnt do any good there.

Let me send out a new warning to webmasters thinking to signup with epiccash.com

Be aware that support and service at epic are not available
and they will shut down your account without further notice.

And now as the owner of epiccash told me, after making this topic he is just waiting to answer on this topic having a need to show that I am a scammer defending himself, instead of him resolving this issue making a simple answer on icq as I wanted in first round.

A pitty that it has to be in this order....What a lack of maturity

Come on and show your muscles Trey, since I doubt that you got any intelligent words to come up with!

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Old 03-20-2004, 02:48 PM   #2
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Old 03-20-2004, 02:53 PM   #4
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I'm sure there was a good reason for disabling the account... but it doesn't sound like it was taken care of well.

BUT we have yet to hear the other side of the story.
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Old 03-20-2004, 02:56 PM   #8
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I have been sending 3 emails to them yesterday and my incoming mail box looks terrifying empty.
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Old 03-20-2004, 02:57 PM   #9
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And now as the owner of epiccash told me, after making this topic he is just waiting to answer on this topic having a need to show that I am a scammer defending himself, instead of him resolving this issue making a simple answer on icq as I wanted in first round.

A pitty that it has to be in this order....What a lack of maturity
Hmmm.... a more mature response would have been to communicate this off the boards but let's hear what Trey has to say.

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Old 03-20-2004, 03:24 PM   #11
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yea sucks when you send sales and 100% cancel.

and the faggot that refered you was disabled by paycom.

hmmm.

might i add they canceled during a $1 1 day trial lol
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Old 03-20-2004, 03:27 PM   #12
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But I guess the problem was that the epic indian member area is not ready for indian surfers, so the signups that I was sending couldnt do any good there.
Revise your members area.
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Old 03-20-2004, 03:50 PM   #13
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yea sucks when you send sales and 100% cancel.

and the faggot that refered you was disabled by paycom.

hmmm.

might i add they canceled during a $1 1 day trial lol



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Old 03-20-2004, 04:51 PM   #14
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not your business. but if he would like me to post the numbers i will
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Old 03-20-2004, 04:57 PM   #17
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not your business. but if he would like me to post the numbers i will
just tryin to get the facts is all, and its not anyones biz untill it hits gfy.. then its whos ever biz who opens the thread and cares to read.. btw welcome to gfy....
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Old 03-20-2004, 05:00 PM   #18
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I don't doubt his story. Epiccash will fuck you over and then blame it on paycom. Don't be fooled. Call paycom and verify it with them. They will tell you whether or not your account was disabled.
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Old 03-20-2004, 05:03 PM   #19
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I don't doubt his story. Epiccash will fuck you over and then blame it on paycom. Don't be fooled. Call paycom and verify it with them. They will tell you whether or not your account was disabled.
yes, please do. paycom didnt kill this acct. I did.
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just tryin to get the facts is all, and its not anyones biz untill it hits gfy.. then its whos ever biz who opens the thread and cares to read.. btw welcome to gfy....
as i said, ill post them if he wants me to. thats private and he brought it here not me.
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yea sucks when you send sales and 100% cancel.

and the faggot that refered you was disabled by paycom.

hmmm.

might i add they canceled during a $1 1 day trial lol

Yep, other side to every story. Scammers don't deserve 1 minute of your time.

This was taken care of correctly- good job Epic.
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as i said, ill post them if he wants me to. thats private and he brought it here not me.
i wasent asking you, i was asking him
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Old 03-20-2004, 07:03 PM   #23
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The thing here is the way epic treat webmasters including myself. If Trey told me before cancelling my account or when doing it, that he couldnt make money on my signups and he had to cancel my account it wouldnt be a problem.

But he just hits the button and leans back doing nothing leaving webmasters talking with incompetent people at epic!

I could have send 100´s and 100´s of signups but I didnt. I stayed there for about 1 month and got payment for about 40 signups. I stayed with ARS for 5 years without problems sending 1000+ signups, but I guess that ARS got more developed member sites just that ARS dont have indian membersites anymore.

Issue here is not scamming or not, its about a sponsor that reads his numbers and kill some accounts without informing anything....and when he does it will be at this forum, because he dont know how to explain things on mail or icq!
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I wish their names would be posted..would make things much easier!
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This is an obvious case of:

Terming a Scammers account.

Obviously if he sends a shitload of $1 trials that cancel immediately he has told the surfers something that is untrue in order to get the signup.

Epic doesn't NOT pay people and term their account for no reason.
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This is an obvious case of:

Terming a Scammers account.

Obviously if he sends a shitload of $1 trials that cancel immediately he has told the surfers something that is untrue in order to get the signup.

Epic doesn't NOT pay people and term their account for no reason.
Get your head out of Trey's ass!!!! Jesus christ.. its disgusting.
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Get your head out of Trey's ass!!!! Jesus christ.. its disgusting.
Looks like i'm not the only one who noticed lol
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Trey and the bitches at Epiccash are a-ok in my book

If he termed the account, I'm sure it was for a reason....trey may be (and be accused of) a lot of things, but a theif isn't one of them.
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Mrthumbs, I have to agree! It's fucking disgusting! Let the facts speak for themselves......don't kiss his fucking ass! If it's bullshit, it will be obvious!
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Get your head out of Trey's ass!!!! Jesus christ.. its disgusting.
I had it up yours for awhile but you stopped showing the love.
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And now as the owner of epiccash told me, after making this topic he is just waiting to answer on this topic having a need to show that I am a scammer defending himself, instead of him resolving this issue making a simple answer on icq as I wanted in first round.

A pitty that it has to be in this order....What a lack of maturity

Come on and show your muscles Trey, since I doubt that you got any intelligent words to come up with!


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Old 03-21-2004, 12:40 AM   #34
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there is only 1 or 2 things to consider here and you can make your own conclusions.

1. why on earth would I kill an account for no reason to keep a few bucks, when i could keep it live, keep him sending traffic and make us both more money in the long run?

im not broke, I do not need this idiots 12 bucks.

2. fuck you all.


i run a business not a charity. affiliates should feel the same way and promote sites with business in mind. you send traffic legitly, honestly.. without fake promos or lying to the surfer or whatever the case may be, then you have in turn made a solid long lasting business relationship and will make more in the long run.


I am so sick and tired of the little whiny bitches lately.. It is almost like every male around has had his balls cut off and now puts makeup on.

if 100 bucks is gonna break you, then you are in the wrong business. seriously.
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Just amazing Trey. You really dont get the point do you? Its right in front of you but you dont see it!
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Just amazing Trey. You really dont get the point do you? Its right in front of you but you dont see it!
i suppose i dont. enlighten me.
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Get your head out of Trey's ass!!!! Jesus christ.. its disgusting.
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Programs are always just canceling their affiliates accounts for no reason. It's great business to cut off your own source of income just for kicks when there's nothing on tv.
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Get your head out of Trey's ass!!!! Jesus christ.. its disgusting.
why not? potential future employment :-)

anyway,i can see legit webmasters getting canceled for such reasons. You just move on. Not every sponsor will give you info on what exactly happened. Affiliate programs are mutual agreements seeking profitability. Nobody will pay you more than what your traffic worths to them, neither will keep you as an affiliate if you cause them more trouble than good.
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sometimes when i am hungry and am pissed i have to get off my fat ass, i take it out on my affiliates and randomly select an acct and hit 'delete' just to get even with the world for making me actually get up and go do something...

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I don't see a program shutting off a webmaster for no good reason. They are all desperate for traffic and will kiss arses to get it, just look at the trade shows. So Trey must have had a good reason to cut off the account.

What is worryting is that he never told the webmaster exactly why and given him a chance to respond. This in my opinion is a common occurence. Yes cut off the account, but email them immediately to tell them why.

I just closed our affiliate program becasue I found two guys buying under their own affiliate number and then claiming the commission. But I wrote to everyone and informed them I was closing it and why.

I think what Platano is pissed about is the way he was dealt with.
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Platano..

Maybe Epic heard that you were a thief from other companies.. You know how many times I had to DMCA you, your ex partners and ARS for your illegal use of my images to sell ARS Indian sites and other Indian sites before theirs ! You were meant to be a pal but stole from me... I have no sympathy at all. I also heard from ARS that they closed your acct a short while ago and that they're wise to you using mutiple id's to sign up again.

I can promise you that I didn't contact Epic about you as I haven't found any more galleries of yours with my pics selling other sites apart from mine for a while and you know that I now ICQ and email you first to take them down if I do find any !

I don't know Epic and have never had to contact them over stolen material but who knows who elses material you stole to use for promoting their Indian sites !!!

Stop playing little boy innocent.. You are a thief and I have enough copies of emails and DMCA notices to prove the fact !
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Hey Joe,

The story about ARS is different than what you tell people. But its typical with you busting out with something that is not really the issue...I guess it comes with age!

Clearing out issues:

1. I got closed my accounts at ARS because I had a friend using 1 of my accounts as he was from India and ARS dont allow webmasters from India.

2. You didnt hear anything from ARS about those accounts getting closed. I told you that.

3. This threat has nothing to do about galleries and stolen pics. I had 3-4 galleries with your pics on by a co-incidence and you were so kind to send in DMCA form to my sponsors, so I guess I dont owe you nothing there.

4. It is a pleasure for me to tell that your galleries and program are no longer allowed at my sites.

And Joe, now you are talking so openly with people here about stuff lets go a while back when you wanted to create an indian mafia controlling all indian sites online. You contacted all indian webmasters asking to join your little mad plan and what a pitty that everybody thought you was mad man!

Result today is that you are still a little mad man with much less power than you really wanted! Joe you cant get big and important person with the attitude you are carying. Dont you see it?

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Old 03-21-2004, 07:49 AM   #49
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Old 03-21-2004, 08:18 AM   #50
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I like the one a few years ago I ran accross.

the guy was paying people 2 join Silvercash sites.
If I remember you got something like $20.00 for joining 5 sites.
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