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pixelpusher · 03-20-2004, 01:41 PM

Folks help me out here, how does a designer with no contacts get a job around here?
I need work and I am willing to do all kinds of deals. How to start getting payed for what I do?

Thanks

Pixelpusher

jpwhits · 03-20-2004, 01:47 PM

do free stuff to get your name out and build a portfolio?

Mutt · 03-20-2004, 01:53 PM

i just went to your site, you don't even have a portfolio or any samples. why? that's just laziness, not a good sign.

you need to show people what u can do, and network, like posting on her like all the rest of us whores. design is a very competitive biz, you need to be aggressive - if you're good satisfied customers will tell their friends.

show us some sites you've designed. if you don't have any do some - sell them on GFY later at a cheap price. u need a portfolio.

pixelpusher · 03-20-2004, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jpwhits
do free stuff to get your name out and build a portfolio?

I did that and my portfolio is up! (Check out the sig)
But there are still no $ coming my way...
I need to work for money now...

doc cock · 03-20-2004, 01:54 PM

i need some gallery templates designed... what are your rates like?

icq/email me to let me know...

pixelpusher · 03-20-2004, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
i just went to your site, you don't even have a portfolio or any samples. why? that's just laziness, not a good sign.

What do you mean, no portfolio. Iknow it's not much but it's a start. And I guess it shows a bit of my capabillities...
Direct link

pixelpusher · 03-20-2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doc cock
i need some gallery templates designed... what are your rates like?

icq/email me to let me know...

My rates are affordable i guess
How will i contact you when there is no ICQ#?
If you want you can hit me up on icq or contact me here

Thanks

Mutt · 03-20-2004, 02:11 PM

ok, the link to your portfolio was "Work" - guess i missed it.

looks like you have decent skills, the sites are a bit bland but professional and in a clean style.

if you're gonna be an adult designer you can't live off paysite designs, u need to do it all, gallery designs, banners, half page and full page ads (HPA,FPA), TGP site designs, various styles of tours, the ones in your portfolio are old school - long tours for reality style video and movie archive sites are big these days, so whip up some of those for your portfolio.

post on GFY and other boards, use your sig space to promote your site, when somebody posts looking for design work to be done, jump on it and reply and get them on ICQ or AIM. Don't just spam the boards, those people suck, contribute something be it nonsense or worthwhile.

good luck

machinegunkelly · 03-20-2004, 02:22 PM

Time , persistance and patience

If you build they will come .

As for your portfolio ,
Don't offer free work .

Sign up at some sponsors, Grab some content and make a few galleries , You'll have work to show and probally make a few signups in the process .

Grab some more content and build some BYOTs , and make money off those , put those in your portfolio as well .

Dont do what I did .
Design is a Dying market , not saying its not there anymore , but unless you have mad skills , a good reputation and low ass prices its hard to compete now adays ,

Recurring income is where its at my man .
and many designers over look this , ( I did )

I came in the same way alot of you did , some graphic skill and no idea what to do with it , I came on here and offered free graphics to people , WHo are still probally seeing a few sign ups here and there from those 2 year old galleries .. I wish I was .

Hindsights 20/20 man , If you have graphical skill and want To make good money , aim just as much to make your own cash off your own work as much as you aim to take clients .

Spunky · 03-20-2004, 02:24 PM

Do you have a tight ass?

torrey · 03-20-2004, 02:25 PM

stuff looks good, clean, I hope you stick around and are able to get a few dollas!!

cayne · 03-20-2004, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jpwhits
do free stuff to get your name out and build a portfolio?

participate in contests.

pixelpusher · 03-20-2004, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by machinegunkelly

Sign up at some sponsors, Grab some content and make a few galleries , You'll have work to show and probally make a few signups in the process .

Grab some more content and build some BYOTs , and make money off those , put those in your portfolio as well .

Sponsors? Where to find them? How does that thing work? They give me content in return for what?

Maybe I didn't put it out but I am really new in this. I am not familiar with processes asround here...

Thanks man!

pixelpusher · 03-20-2004, 02:41 PM

Thanks everyone..
This kind of talk helps!

Keep advices and opinions rollin'

Thanks

torrey · 03-20-2004, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pixelpusher

Sponsors? Where to find them? How does that thing work? They give me content in return for what?

Maybe I didn't put it out but I am really new in this. I am not familiar with processes asround here...

Thanks man!

At least you have the nerve to come out and admit you need help, around here thats scarce at best. I commend that.

machinegunkelly · 03-20-2004, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pixelpusher

Sponsors? Where to find them? How does that thing work? They give me content in return for what?

Maybe I didn't put it out but I am really new in this. I am not familiar with processes asround here...

Thanks man!

Clicky clicky , any banner around here that says " we pay ___ "
Will give you content to build galleries ,
In turn they pay you for sign up or whatever .

You'll need hosting , seems like you have it already so you should be set .

in addition it will give you chance to see if you work converts or not , and let you test to see what needs to be done before you go and offer designs to clients .

design talent is one thing , but knowing how to make a surfer pull on his wallet instead of his wanker is something else

pixelpusher · 03-20-2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by machinegunkelly

design talent is one thing , but knowing how to make a surfer pull on his wallet instead of his wanker is something else

I agree!

This kind of design has a different purpose than corporate or non adult promotional sites. I am in a process of learning what will make people join. I guess it's the matter of experience and practice (as everything else)

Newton - XXXAmigoz · 03-20-2004, 03:20 PM

You still need to change the black pearls add on your portolfio where it reads "Georgeus" to "Gorgeous", clients won't take you seriously if there are spelling mistakes.

Machinegunkelly and the others are correct when they say buy content and build a portfolio up. You should put prices and portfolio in place for all to see when you are ready to start looking for people to hire you.

urbx · 03-20-2004, 03:39 PM

pixelpusher,

Nice site and designs, but you should take a look at it using Mozilla or a browser other than Internet Explorer coz the Enter link only shows up in IE.

Head · 03-20-2004, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1
Do you have a tight ass?

Wilber · 03-20-2004, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by machinegunkelly
knowing how to make a surfer pull on his wallet instead of his wanker is something else

You are giving a bit too much away visually. A bigger prob is your not working the SEs.
You aren't even in Google.

You have to put down the paint brush and start advertising.

There isn't much money in design anyway these days. Many things are handled in-house
these days so your bulk of customers is going to be one-man-shows. So to start feeding
from them start offering $75.00 entrance pages and then start spammin' the boards and
get your domain in the SEs.

You have a good gfx eye and your obviously into bandwidth optimization so push those
abilities as well.

pixelpusher · 03-21-2004, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilber

You are giving a bit too much away visually. A bigger prob is your not working the SEs.
You aren't even in Google.

You have to put down the paint brush and start advertising.

There isn't much money in design anyway these days. Many things are handled in-house
these days so your bulk of customers is going to be one-man-shows. So to start feeding
from them start offering $75.00 entrance pages and then start spammin' the boards and
get your domain in the SEs.

You have a good gfx eye and your obviously into bandwidth optimization so push those
abilities as well.

Ok, another rookie question...

What is SEs? Search engines?

Thanks...

Paul Markham · 03-21-2004, 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
i just went to your site, you don't even have a portfolio or any samples. why? that's just laziness, not a good sign.

you need to show people what u can do, and network, like posting on her like all the rest of us whores. design is a very competitive biz, you need to be aggressive - if you're good satisfied customers will tell their friends.

show us some sites you've designed. if you don't have any do some - sell them on GFY later at a cheap price. u need a portfolio.

Said it all for me. Not all of us are here for entertainment. Some are here to sell our wares, you need to do the same.

pixelpusher · 03-21-2004, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Said it all for me. Not all of us are here for entertainment. Some are here to sell our wares, you need to do the same.

What do you think I am here for? You think I did those sites out of the boredom?
C'mon man, BROWSE the site before badmouthing me!

Also read previous posts! Mutt corrected his statement.

Portfolio is here!

Pixelpusher

Lykos · 03-21-2004, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
ok, the link to your portfolio was "Work" - guess i missed it.

looks like you have decent skills, the sites are a bit bland but professional and in a clean style.

if you're gonna be an adult designer you can't live off paysite designs, u need to do it all, gallery designs, banners, half page and full page ads (HPA,FPA), TGP site designs, various styles of tours, the ones in your portfolio are old school - long tours for reality style video and movie archive sites are big these days, so whip up some of those for your portfolio.

post on GFY and other boards, use your sig space to promote your site, when somebody posts looking for design work to be done, jump on it and reply and get them on ICQ or AIM. Don't just spam the boards, those people suck, contribute something be it nonsense or worthwhile.

good luck

03-21-2004, 07:33 AM

Nice site, good luck

TweetyBird · 03-21-2004, 07:44 AM

nice work, you'll find something soon

pixelpusher · 03-21-2004, 12:11 PM

I wish to thank everyone for helping me!

If there is anyone who wish to add something I would be very thankful. This is the only way I can learn...

Thanks.

Pixelpusher

sumphatpimp · 03-21-2004, 12:48 PM

navigation links are much too small, can't find shit !

if people can't find their way around they won't buy shit !

and it reflects badly on you as a designer, if you can't sell you then you can't sell me.

pixelpusher · 03-21-2004, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sumphatpimp

navigation links are much too small, can't find shit !

if people can't find their way around they won't buy shit !

and it reflects badly on you as a designer, if you can't sell you then you can't sell me.

my site has different target audience then my designs. Check out the work I did and see the size of navigation buttons there!

I took a "little" liberty to design my site the way i like it!
My work is what you need to comment not my navigation buttons!

Pixelpusher

03-20-2004, 01:41 PM	#1
pixelpusher Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 169	how do I do it? Folks help me out here, how does a designer with no contacts get a job around here? I need work and I am willing to do all kinds of deals. How to start getting payed for what I do? Thanks Pixelpusher __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-20-2004, 01:53 PM	#3
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i just went to your site, you don't even have a portfolio or any samples. why? that's just laziness, not a good sign. you need to show people what u can do, and network, like posting on her like all the rest of us whores. design is a very competitive biz, you need to be aggressive - if you're good satisfied customers will tell their friends. show us some sites you've designed. if you don't have any do some - sell them on GFY later at a cheap price. u need a portfolio. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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doc cock Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: victoria bc Posts: 53	i need some gallery templates designed... what are your rates like? icq/email me to let me know... __________________ silvercash converts like crazy!

03-20-2004, 02:11 PM	#8
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	ok, the link to your portfolio was "Work" - guess i missed it. looks like you have decent skills, the sites are a bit bland but professional and in a clean style. if you're gonna be an adult designer you can't live off paysite designs, u need to do it all, gallery designs, banners, half page and full page ads (HPA,FPA), TGP site designs, various styles of tours, the ones in your portfolio are old school - long tours for reality style video and movie archive sites are big these days, so whip up some of those for your portfolio. post on GFY and other boards, use your sig space to promote your site, when somebody posts looking for design work to be done, jump on it and reply and get them on ICQ or AIM. Don't just spam the boards, those people suck, contribute something be it nonsense or worthwhile. good luck __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-20-2004, 02:22 PM	#9
machinegunkelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,285	Time , persistance and patience If you build they will come . As for your portfolio , Don't offer free work . Sign up at some sponsors, Grab some content and make a few galleries , You'll have work to show and probally make a few signups in the process . Grab some more content and build some BYOTs , and make money off those , put those in your portfolio as well . Dont do what I did . Design is a Dying market , not saying its not there anymore , but unless you have mad skills , a good reputation and low ass prices its hard to compete now adays , Recurring income is where its at my man . and many designers over look this , ( I did ) I came in the same way alot of you did , some graphic skill and no idea what to do with it , I came on here and offered free graphics to people , WHo are still probally seeing a few sign ups here and there from those 2 year old galleries .. I wish I was . Hindsights 20/20 man , If you have graphical skill and want To make good money , aim just as much to make your own cash off your own work as much as you aim to take clients . __________________ dead.

03-20-2004, 01:47 PM	#2
jpwhits Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,045	do free stuff to get your name out and build a portfolio?

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03-20-2004, 02:25 PM	#11
torrey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pornslinga USA Posts: 1,656	stuff looks good, clean, I hope you stick around and are able to get a few dollas!! __________________

03-20-2004, 02:41 PM	#14
pixelpusher Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 169	Thanks everyone.. This kind of talk helps! Keep advices and opinions rollin' Thanks __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-20-2004, 03:20 PM	#18
Newton - XXXAmigoz Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,026	You still need to change the black pearls add on your portolfio where it reads "Georgeus" to "Gorgeous", clients won't take you seriously if there are spelling mistakes. Machinegunkelly and the others are correct when they say buy content and build a portfolio up. You should put prices and portfolio in place for all to see when you are ready to start looking for people to hire you. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-20-2004, 03:39 PM	#19
urbx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10	pixelpusher, Nice site and designs, but you should take a look at it using Mozilla or a browser other than Internet Explorer coz the Enter link only shows up in IE.

03-21-2004, 07:33 AM	#26
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	Nice site, good luck

03-21-2004, 07:44 AM	#27
TweetyBird Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canadian this !!! Posts: 8,532	nice work, you'll find something soon __________________ sig for sale. ICQ :338213644

03-21-2004, 12:11 PM	#28
pixelpusher Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 169	I wish to thank everyone for helping me! If there is anyone who wish to add something I would be very thankful. This is the only way I can learn... Thanks. Pixelpusher __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

03-21-2004, 12:48 PM	#29
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	navigation links are much too small, can't find shit ! if people can't find their way around they won't buy shit ! and it reflects badly on you as a designer, if you can't sell you then you can't sell me.