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Jensen 03-20-2004 10:45 AM

Moneybookers is a service from the bookie Gamebookers so pretty solid. Working great for me and easy to get verified (the reason why I don't use paypal). Haven't experienced any problems so far.

shaliza 03-21-2004 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by slackologist


yeah, i'm guessing this is the next most used service.. does epassporte have anything over paypal as far as what they offer, what they can do etc?

Epassporte gives your surfers an actual visa account that they can use ANYWHERE visa is accepted. We can set it up just like paypal where your users click, open an account simply transfer the funds to you.

Email me for more information. We can process adult transactions no problem.

Shaliza
[email protected]

candyflip 03-21-2004 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by PbG
Yahoo Pay direct does not allow adult anything . . .



There is nothing in their terms that says this. I have been over it a few times and use the server regualrly. I have spoken with a customer service person and they have no issue with what I do. I am just another customer using their service.

Paypal seems to have gone from not processing for adult sites to not letting people who are involved in the adult industry use their service. That is discrimination, if I'm not mistaken.

http://paydirect.yahoo.com

The only negative about Paydirect is that you have to be in the US to have an account. An account holder can send anyone in the world funds, so you're not at a total loss for international transfers.

TheSwed 03-21-2004 10:47 AM

Epassporte it's easy to use :thumbsup

Giorgio_Xo 03-21-2004 11:33 AM

Check out the Options page at http://www.paypalsucks.com/

riosluts 03-21-2004 11:44 AM

just wait for the check to arrive. Like that you dont lose alot of money in fee's. I know its a pain in the ass going to the bank but that might be the best alternative

Raf1 03-21-2004 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by liquidmoe
epassporte
:thumbsup

synergysex 03-21-2004 11:52 AM

Could consider 2CheckOut depending on what you are selling. They dont accept most adult products, but they do accept lingerie sales, fetish sites (if no nudity is shown), web design and *maybe* traffic brokers and some other sidelines. They also take dating sites now. But they wont allow anything with nudity in it - the fetish sites are kinda borderline.

>> http://www.2checkout.com/cgi-bin/aff.2c?affid=35199

-HF 03-21-2004 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by shaliza


Epassporte gives your surfers an actual visa account that they can use ANYWHERE visa is accepted.


if only. i got the epassporte account for that reason. first try was purchasing traffic from FastAdultTraffic. their processor is 2checkout.com. they don't accept the virtual visa. tried it with 2 other customers of theirs, same result.

i hesitate to use it for anything now, don't really wanna end up being suspected of using a faulty credit card.

also the CC verification is a bit of a hassle, many cards in Europe are given out by banks and not directly by a CC company. you don't have a number with the CC company to call then.

RicardoB 03-21-2004 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jensen
Moneybookers all the way.. credit card is of course available and you can even fund with your mobile...
I agree if you have to use an online system moneybookers & Ikobo are it :thumbsup

http 03-21-2004 12:30 PM

EPASSPORTE all the way


I cannot believe people complaining about the fees. O.k. they aren't as cheap ay paypal but you gotta look at your possibilities. And it's still within reason

If $70 for the first year (including 2 VISA cards, a physical ATM and a virtual) is killing you then oh well

This is from the perspective of a webmaster. I don't know about their fees from a sponsor's viewpoint or a paysite operator.


Only downside compared to paypal: Epassporte won't let you wire remaining funds to your bank account ( as far as I know)

On the other side, you get an ATM card and can pull cash at like 800,000 (I think) ATM cash dispensers worldwide. But still, that's not a real solution long term. I wish they could do something about the "problem" of having way too much money in your epassporte. Pulling it all cash at ATM isn't really a solution. The bank won't appreciate me coming with bundles of cash every other week to deposit it in my account lol


Been two times in island vacations with the ATM card and it just works EVERYWHERE

As for getting refused with the virtual visa (for online purchases of goods and services), I had that happen once, however most of the time it DOES work. It works at amazon for instance. And at my host too, etc, etc


If they only would let me send money to my bank account...
I will have to ask them I guess whether they do this on request




Let's all stick to epassporte. Yahoo would have been the ONLY other option but they aren't international and you can bet they'll get cocky about adult biz too

-HF 03-21-2004 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by http
As for getting refused with the virtual visa (for online purchases of goods and services), I had that happen once, however most of the time it DOES work. It works at amazon for instance. And at my host too, etc, etc

so, you were lucky, i gave it 3 different tries and all 3 were refused. that's not exactly the best turn out, considering they claim

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Originally posted by shaliza
Epassporte gives your surfers an actual visa account that they can use ANYWHERE visa is accepted.
it is not them getting the bad rep with the seller, it's the user of the card.

and the CC verification is way too much hassle as well. i saw someone mention similar probs in the other paypal alternatives thread, so it's obviously not just me.

if epassporte can fix these two issues, i'd be a more than happy user of their services again. until then, my account will sleep.

riosluts 03-21-2004 01:13 PM

For $70 i though u get only 1 physical card. I just hope the card works at an ATM so i can withdraw from it twice a month

sperbonzo 03-21-2004 01:15 PM

You may also want to look at Duocash as an addiltional way to process transactions along with your credit card processor.

We enable pre-paid phone cards to be used, which means that we have nothing to do with VISA/MC and we are NOT subject to the credit card association regulations.

We are not looking to be a replacement for credit cards, but rather an anonymous, additional method to get customers who might otherwise not want, or be able, to give CC# to adult sites.
Our system also works very well for micropayments as there is no per transaction fee of 15 to 50 cents like CC transactions.

Perhaps you may want to take a look at Duocash

http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp


We are not in the business of selling phone cards. The problem with earlier business models has been distribution of proprietary cards. The retailers won?t stock the cards if the customers aren?t asking for them. The consumers aren?t aware of the cards if they aren?t on retailers shelves. It?s a chicken and egg type of issue.

In our case, we have done something different. We are taking a product that is ALREADY on the shelves, in distribution online, and in call centers. We are enabling the existing phone cards that are already on the market and being distributed, to be used by consumers to purchase digital content on the internet. This also avoids the issue of a single-use card that won?t be carried by retailers and distributors because of perception problems associated with a card that is specific to adult, gaming, etc?

We are putting together some VERY large deals that will be implemented in the next 60 days or so that will put us all over the US and Canada, and we are in discussions to expand to Australia and the EU.

You can contact me on my mobile or my email at any time for any questions you might have

PbG 03-21-2004 01:38 PM

Big MISTAKE! You should search for feedback. Their customer service is the absolute worst!!! I always feel like I'm talking to a fucking minor over there and nothing gets done. Still waiting on a response to two tickets submitted four times in three months. Even called them and always they respond we will get the finance department to fix/refund/make adjustment.

Now if I had a nickel fo revery fucking time they said that . . .
We're considering gottapayand payingez.com to replace them.


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Originally posted by InsaneMidget





I signed up today under you with your MP sig link code...They look good.


PbG 03-21-2004 01:46 PM

Exactly that is why I called Yahoo Pay Direct twice to be sure! No adult merchandising at all! That is because they are using a bank HSBNC Iif I remember correctly. It's their bank that prohibits it.

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Originally posted by ravo


Where do you see that? Their TOS makes no reference to that, as far as I can see.


Kimmykim 03-21-2004 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Big Roi
e-gold.

OK not too many surfers use it.
But neither paypal nor epassporte are confidential in the least.
e-gold is.



I guess if nobody minds having their checkbook open to the world then epassporte is excellent.

Wow there big Roi, I guess that expose I saw a couple of weeks ago on Fox News about serious issues with e-gold must not have been true...

There are things called the Patriot Act and Visa's Know Your Customer Rule that are the reasoning behind ePassporte, Paypal, your bank, your card companies, knowing a little about you before they allow you to process large sums of money through their systems.

ePassporte is the best alternative to Paypal for adult companies, our background is in adult payment processing, and we're very accessible to people in the community.

ePassporte offers several options for account holders, including a Visa Electron card that can be used at ATMs worldwide. The Virtual Visa is strictly for online usage but 90% of the times I've used mine, it has been successfully -- the places I found that wouldn't take it were due to the way their processing was set up, not due to the ePassporte card.

One of the best things about Paypal is the ability to transfer money between accounts instantly and immediately, and ePassporte has that feature inherent in it from the time you set up the account.

All in all, ePassporte :)

slackologist 03-21-2004 02:55 PM

some great info, thanks people. ePassporte seems to be fairly popular despite a few problems.

Kimmykim 03-21-2004 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by slackologist
some great info, thanks people. ePassporte seems to be fairly popular despite a few problems.
Nothing is perfect, I'll be the first one to say that. But we're getting pretty close ;)

BadBrad 03-21-2004 04:23 PM

Check out www.firepay.com

tonkagunner 04-15-2004 06:05 PM

do any of these companies do re-occurring transactions?


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