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TheSaint · 03-21-2004, 11:56 PM

I will gladly paypal $50 to the first poster who call tell me how to create a watermark that works for cleaner XL.

Quotes from the documentation don't count, it has to actually be usable information.

So far I tried converting a .png per the docs, and the only tech support notes I found at their website related to older versions and using photoshop to create an alpha channel on .PICT files.

Any takers?

TheSaint · 03-21-2004, 11:57 PM

bump as I expect this is not exactly a hot thread...

The Truth Hurts · 03-22-2004, 12:17 AM

never used the program, but according to the PDF user guide on their site, it seems like a piece of cake.

Watermark
It is sometimes important to watermark your video to ensure viewers know who owns or
created the files.
The watermarking filter applies a watermark to movies by compositing the watermarking
graphic directly onto the video track. It supports up to 32-bit color watermarks, using
transparency to control the opacity of the watermark image.
To create a watermark:
1. Create the watermark image on a transparent background with an image-editing
application.
2. Set the opacity of the watermark to control its transparency.
3. Save the image as a .png file.
Chapter 7: Filters 94
To load the watermark image:
Click the Browse Files button to locate and load the watermark image.
To apply fades to the watermark:
1. From the Watermark options group, select Apply fade in to watermark to fade in the
watermark with the image fade in.
2. From the Watermark options group, select Apply fade out to watermark to fade out the
watermark with the image fade out.

creating the png is easy..
create a new image in PS with a transparent bg..
drop some text or whatever, then save as png.

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 07:30 AM

Thanks, I tried that before I posted, didn't work. I think it has something to do with the alpha channel, and rasterizing the image first, which I played around with the same results.

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 07:45 AM

THE SAINT,

In photoshop, create a new image with transparent background.
Make new layer for your text or watermark image. So you either have text with transparent background, or image with another transperent layer. Set the opacity to what you want it to look like over the video.

Save as a .png.
Load your video files as you normally would.
Go to job, video filter settings, edit, click on watermark, then browse files to locate your .png. Try to uncheck other settings if you can.

Load it up and submit your job to cue, should work just fine.

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 07:52 AM

Oh ,and make sure you have your movie that you are going to encode CLICKED AND HIGHLIGHTED in the source window before you add the watermark.

VERY IMPORTANT

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 07:58 AM

Thanks for the try. I tried variations of that about 1000 times before posting, never get a watermark. Doesn't it have to be raterized first and use an alpha channel, I know for old cleaner thats the way it worked.

I've tried encoding many times and never get anything. Also I've been told that when you set the filter you'll immediately see the watermark reflected on the monitor window, no watermark there either.

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 08:00 AM

No dude, no chanel settings necessary. You sure the movie file extention in the upper source window in highlighted BLUE before you make these changes?

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 08:02 AM

Also try and make your watermark layer/ image size, the same as you movie. If its too big might be going off the screen.

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 08:06 AM

Yeah, I make sure I select the movie first, turns blue. Then I click on the filter settings, load the watermark. When you open the filter the blue turns to a light color but its still selected and checked.

The I close the filter window (it doesn't have an ok button), go back and click it again and its still set as expected.

Yes, I am using the correct image size. Tried smaller ones too, in case it was flowing off thw screen. Any chance you could email me a watermark - [email protected]? Then I could see if that one works for me, and figure out where I might be fucking up?

Basic_man · 03-22-2004, 08:10 AM

Are you talking Watermarks on Pics or Vidz? Not the same..

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 08:13 AM

Watermarks with cleaner - for video. Its pretty well known that for the old cleaner, you had to create an alpha channel and save the watermark as a pict.

On cleaner XL, the help full just says create a .png - hard to figure out how I could screw that up, but when I look at the monitor window or actually encode a vid I get no watermark.

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 08:33 AM

Ok, I've been at this for about 15 hours now, I haven't slept, my breath smells bad, and the wife is looking at me funny.

I'll up the ante to $100 if anyone can help me get this to work. If It don't get any takers by around 12:00 noon EST I'm just going to go to their website and buy the full version for $550 to get support; I own the academic version that doesn't come with any.

AaronM · 03-22-2004, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSaint
Ok, I've been at this for about 15 hours now, I haven't slept, my breath smells bad, and the wife is looking at me funny.

I'll up the ante to $100 if anyone can help me get this to work. If It don't get any takers by around 12:00 noon EST I'm just going to go to their website and buy the full version for $550 to get support; I own the academic version that doesn't come with any.

I have the full version and even their support people could not make that shit work.

It's seems like it would be simple but is just does not work.

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 09:03 AM

Everything is working fine for me.

Do you have a trail version?? That could be the problem.

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 09:04 AM

Uh-Oh. Before I spend $550, are you saying watermarks don't work in XL? Thats what I am beginning to suspect.

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meta Ridley
Everything is working fine for me.

Do you have a trail version?? That could be the problem.

No, I purchased the academic version. Same program as I understand it but no support of any kind.

AaronM · 03-22-2004, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSaint
Uh-Oh. Before I spend $550, are you saying watermarks don't work in XL? Thats what I am beginning to suspect.

I can't get them to work. I honestly think it may have something to do with the alpha layer that the manual tells me to create in Photoshop.

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

I can't get them to work. I honestly think it may have something to do with the alpha layer that the manual tell s me to create in Photoshop.

Ah, shit. Ok I got you saying that even autodesk can't help and Meta saying its no problem, so I don't know what the fuck to do.

I can go back to laying on watermarks with the editing program but I really want to do it post production, what a pain in the ass for such as simple thing...

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 09:17 AM

Saint , can you send me your watermark so I can try it out - to maybe test and make sure its not the image.

Working perfect here - and any png i use works fine.

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 09:21 AM

How many output profiels do you have? You knw you have to add the watermark for each profile, basically click on the profile and then addwatermark for each one seperatly.

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meta Ridley
Saint , can you send me your watermark so I can try it out - to maybe test and make sure its not the image.

Working perfect here - and any png i use works fine.

Here you go:

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meta Ridley
How many output profiels do you have? You knw you have to add the watermark for each profile, basically click on the profile and then addwatermark for each one seperatly.

Holy Fucking shit!

That worked, sort if. I still can't preview in my monitor but after encoding the video it had the watermark.

If you want the $100 send me your paypal addy and its on its way (as soon as I get back from lunch, I'm hungry as a motherfucker!)

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSaint

Holy Fucking shit!

That worked, sort if. I still can't preview in my monitor but after encoding the video it had the watermark.

If you want the $100 send me your paypal addy and its on its way (as soon as I get back from lunch, I'm hungry as a motherfucker!)

Ha great. Glad it worked.
A broke ass like me could alwars use some extra $$ -

AaronM · 03-22-2004, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meta Ridley
How many output profiels do you have? You knw you have to add the watermark for each profile, basically click on the profile and then addwatermark for each one seperatly.

You would think the tech people would have caught onto that.

I'll happily kick in for half of that $100.00

Thanks for the help.

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 09:41 AM

Glad it worked

AaronM · 03-22-2004, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meta Ridley
Glad it worked

You and me both. Now...How about that PayPal email addy so I can send you some coinage?

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 09:54 AM

Rite on ,thanx.

[email protected]

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 10:32 AM

Ok, $100 paypal sent and on the way...

What a fucking ordeal, thanks.

AaronM · 03-22-2004, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSaint
Ok, $100 paypal sent and on the way...

What a fucking ordeal, thanks.

You want me to send you $50 for half or do you want me to send an additional $50 to Meta?

TheSaint · 03-22-2004, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM

You want me to send you $50 for half or do you want me to send an additional $50 to Meta?

I'm so fucking happy its solved, that as far as I am concerned if 10 people all sent him $50 that would be fine with me.

So I'd say send your donation to Meta.

AaronM · 03-22-2004, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSaint

I'm so fucking happy its solved, that as far as I am concerned if 10 people all sent him $50 that would be fine with me.

So I'd say send your donation to Meta.

Done.

Meta Ridley · 03-22-2004, 11:15 AM

AaronM & TheSaint two honest stand-up people right there. Much appreciated ;)

03-21-2004, 11:56 PM	#1
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	$50 reward - cleaner XL question I will gladly paypal $50 to the first poster who call tell me how to create a watermark that works for cleaner XL. Quotes from the documentation don't count, it has to actually be usable information. So far I tried converting a .png per the docs, and the only tech support notes I found at their website related to older versions and using photoshop to create an alpha channel on .PICT files. Any takers? __________________ I have no signature

03-21-2004, 11:57 PM	#2
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	bump as I expect this is not exactly a hot thread... __________________ I have no signature

03-22-2004, 07:30 AM	#4
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Thanks, I tried that before I posted, didn't work. I think it has something to do with the alpha channel, and rasterizing the image first, which I played around with the same results. __________________ I have no signature

03-22-2004, 07:45 AM	#5
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	THE SAINT, In photoshop, create a new image with transparent background. Make new layer for your text or watermark image. So you either have text with transparent background, or image with another transperent layer. Set the opacity to what you want it to look like over the video. Save as a .png. Load your video files as you normally would. Go to job, video filter settings, edit, click on watermark, then browse files to locate your .png. Try to uncheck other settings if you can. Load it up and submit your job to cue, should work just fine. __________________ [email protected] Last edited by Meta Ridley; 03-22-2004 at 07:54 AM..

03-22-2004, 07:52 AM	#6
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	Oh ,and make sure you have your movie that you are going to encode CLICKED AND HIGHLIGHTED in the source window before you add the watermark. VERY IMPORTANT __________________ [email protected] Last edited by Meta Ridley; 03-22-2004 at 07:56 AM..

03-22-2004, 12:17 AM	#3
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,567	never used the program, but according to the PDF user guide on their site, it seems like a piece of cake. Watermark It is sometimes important to watermark your video to ensure viewers know who owns or created the files. The watermarking filter applies a watermark to movies by compositing the watermarking graphic directly onto the video track. It supports up to 32-bit color watermarks, using transparency to control the opacity of the watermark image. To create a watermark: 1. Create the watermark image on a transparent background with an image-editing application. 2. Set the opacity of the watermark to control its transparency. 3. Save the image as a .png file. Chapter 7: Filters 94 To load the watermark image: Click the Browse Files button to locate and load the watermark image. To apply fades to the watermark: 1. From the Watermark options group, select Apply fade in to watermark to fade in the watermark with the image fade in. 2. From the Watermark options group, select Apply fade out to watermark to fade out the watermark with the image fade out. creating the png is easy.. create a new image in PS with a transparent bg.. drop some text or whatever, then save as png.

03-22-2004, 07:58 AM	#7
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Thanks for the try. I tried variations of that about 1000 times before posting, never get a watermark. Doesn't it have to be raterized first and use an alpha channel, I know for old cleaner thats the way it worked. I've tried encoding many times and never get anything. Also I've been told that when you set the filter you'll immediately see the watermark reflected on the monitor window, no watermark there either. __________________ I have no signature

03-22-2004, 08:00 AM	#8
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	No dude, no chanel settings necessary. You sure the movie file extention in the upper source window in highlighted BLUE before you make these changes? __________________ [email protected]

03-22-2004, 08:02 AM	#9
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	Also try and make your watermark layer/ image size, the same as you movie. If its too big might be going off the screen. __________________ [email protected]

03-22-2004, 08:06 AM	#10
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Yeah, I make sure I select the movie first, turns blue. Then I click on the filter settings, load the watermark. When you open the filter the blue turns to a light color but its still selected and checked. The I close the filter window (it doesn't have an ok button), go back and click it again and its still set as expected. Yes, I am using the correct image size. Tried smaller ones too, in case it was flowing off thw screen. Any chance you could email me a watermark - [email protected]? Then I could see if that one works for me, and figure out where I might be fucking up? __________________ I have no signature

03-22-2004, 08:10 AM	#11
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03-22-2004, 08:13 AM	#12
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Watermarks with cleaner - for video. Its pretty well known that for the old cleaner, you had to create an alpha channel and save the watermark as a pict. On cleaner XL, the help full just says create a .png - hard to figure out how I could screw that up, but when I look at the monitor window or actually encode a vid I get no watermark. __________________ I have no signature

03-22-2004, 08:33 AM	#13
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Ok, I've been at this for about 15 hours now, I haven't slept, my breath smells bad, and the wife is looking at me funny. I'll up the ante to $100 if anyone can help me get this to work. If It don't get any takers by around 12:00 noon EST I'm just going to go to their website and buy the full version for $550 to get support; I own the academic version that doesn't come with any. __________________ I have no signature

03-22-2004, 09:03 AM	#15
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	Everything is working fine for me. Do you have a trail version?? That could be the problem. __________________ [email protected]

03-22-2004, 09:04 AM	#16
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Uh-Oh. Before I spend $550, are you saying watermarks don't work in XL? Thats what I am beginning to suspect. __________________ I have no signature

03-22-2004, 09:17 AM	#20
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	Saint , can you send me your watermark so I can try it out - to maybe test and make sure its not the image. Working perfect here - and any png i use works fine. __________________ [email protected]

03-22-2004, 09:21 AM	#21
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	How many output profiels do you have? You knw you have to add the watermark for each profile, basically click on the profile and then addwatermark for each one seperatly. __________________ [email protected]

03-22-2004, 09:41 AM	#26
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	Glad it worked __________________ [email protected]

03-22-2004, 09:54 AM	#28
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	Rite on ,thanx. [email protected] __________________ [email protected]

03-22-2004, 10:32 AM	#29
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	Ok, $100 paypal sent and on the way... What a fucking ordeal, thanks. __________________ I have no signature

03-22-2004, 11:15 AM	#33
Meta Ridley Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The land of ruleface and kickass Posts: 3,433	AaronM & TheSaint two honest stand-up people right there. Much appreciated ;) __________________ [email protected]