Dialers, Love em or HATE em?

[patriot]

Do you use a dialer on your site, does it work?

What conversions do you get from dialers?

Worth the trouble?

Let me Know.. we have the best dialer going...

[Johnny Murdoch]

I use dialers for my sites. They great converts !!

Specially with european traffic

[patriot]

What more do you wanT'

FREE content, great conversions, and pick up punters who don't want to use credit cards

Check us out.

[Wilber]

we have the best dialer going

You must be an executive in Advertising. How do you guys come up
with those brilliant phrases that supercede and other dialer-whore?

Just by reading that I want your dialer real bad.



























































...btw, what's a dialer?

[Johnny Murdoch]

...btw, what's a dialer?

The dialer is a small program for 56k users. After downloading the program, they are redirected to a members area

[bdld]

Originally posted by Johnny Murdoch


The dialer is a small program for 56k users. After downloading the program, they are redirected to a members area

idiot

[unconnected]

dialers rock and I love em..
There are bad apples just like there are with Credit cards..

head over to www.ultimatedialers.com if you want to give em a try, and you can easily double your income with your int'l traffic

[Wilber]

Originally posted by Johnny Murdoch


The dialer is a small program for 56k users. After downloading the program, they are redirected to a members area

Like bdld pointed out, you are an idiot. Besides being an idiot you didn't explain what a dialer is correctly. "redirected"? The word "dial" should clue you in as to what it does.

[Wilber]

Originally posted by unconnected
dialers rock and I love em..

You would have to have ½ your cranium missing to pay per minute to look at porn.

You "love 'em" if your on the giving end of a dialer, if your on the receiving end and
you still love 'em then I got a bridge in San Francisco I'd like to sell you. It's really
long and held up by big cables. I'm willing to let it go for $50,000.00 if you buy it today.

[patriot]

Dialers have come a long way man.. use them for International traffic, and for those por saps who don't own credit cards but still want to wank online...

DialerXP works with modems, LAN and ASDL connections...

Just watch it roll in...

[Wilber]

Originally posted by patriot
Dialers have come a long way man.. use them for International traffic, and for those por saps who don't own credit cards but still want to wank online...

DialerXP works with modems, LAN and ASDL connections...

Just watch it roll in...

I'm not disputing the successful income a dialer can make.
You just have to decide if that is the credibility-road you
want to travel.

Nobody that installs dialers really wants the user to know
it's $/per minute. It's akin to selling swamp land. You cheated
the user and created a large phone bill for them when that
isn't kosher to being on the up-n-up.

Yea, honesty in porn...what a strange concept huh?

[polish_aristocrat]

he isn't an idiot.
Some new ppl don't know that GFY is full of sarcasm.

[HomeTown_Hero]

love them till they don't pay me.

very creative spam...

[riosluts]

Dialers charge like $5 per minute for the surfer and pay the webmaster about $0.05 per minute. Or even just pay the webmaster $.25 for every dialer downloaded

[Wilber]

Dialer agents are worse than the dialer pushers. Dialers seem to attract the worst in this business.

Remember all that shit years ago with Tyler and Snow? If you've been around awhile you know the story.

[patriot]

Dialers charge like $5 per minute for the surfer and pay the webmaster about $0.05 per minute. Or even just pay the webmaster $.25 for every dialer downloaded

Some dialer companies work that way for sure. But look at our rates and see the difference,

http://www.dialerxp.com/rates/index.htm

We pay shit loads more than some comps, Switzerland 0.90 USD, Norway 0.30 USD, Denmark 0.30 USD, United Kingdom 1.10 USD, Austria 1.00 USD.

Thats what we pay the webmaster, you don't even need content..

[Wilber]

Originally posted by patriot


Some dialer companies work that way for sure. But look at our rates and see the difference,

http://www.dialerxp.com/rates/index.htm

We pay shit loads more than some comps, Switzerland 0.90 USD, Norway 0.30 USD, Denmark 0.30 USD, United Kingdom 1.10 USD, Austria 1.00 USD.

Thats what we pay the webmaster, you don't even need content..

This guy is smarter than I first thought.

[Mcarlsen]

You would have to have ½ your cranium missing to pay per minute to look at porn.

I kind of agree with this. I don't think many people like the thought of paying per minute. What if thier modem is slower? Then they have to pay more to look at just as much porn as a guy with high speed.

[Toolz]

Originally posted by Wilber

I'm not disputing the successful income a dialer can make.
You just have to decide if that is the credibility-road you
want to travel.

Nobody that installs dialers really wants the user to know
it's $/per minute. It's akin to selling swamp land. You cheated
the user and created a large phone bill for them when that
isn't kosher to being on the up-n-up.

Yea, honesty in porn...what a strange concept huh?

Actually that's incorrect. Current dialer regulations clearly post the rate the user is connected at and the time they have been connected for, these are regulations set down by the International monitoring committee and MOST dialers adhere to this, if they don't they're fined.

[Ozzymosis1]

[spam]

We have German, UK, and other good dialer country traffic for sale

http://www.FastAdultTraffic.com

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[Toolz]

Originally posted by patriot


Some dialer companies work that way for sure. But look at our rates and see the difference,

http://www.dialerxp.com/rates/index.htm

We pay shit loads more than some comps, Switzerland 0.90 USD, Norway 0.30 USD, Denmark 0.30 USD, United Kingdom 1.10 USD, Austria 1.00 USD.

Thats what we pay the webmaster, you don't even need content..

I'd be very interested in just how you're getting away with paying out $1.00 AU, is this per call?

On the per minute, your UK is low, we start at $1.41 per minute and pay higher depending on volume

[bdld]

dialers are definately not what they used to be.

[Wilber]

Originally posted by Toolz
Current dialer regulations clearly post the rate the user is connected at and the time they have been connected for, these are regulations set down by the International monitoring committee and MOST dialers adhere to this, if they don't they're fined.

This is not news to me. Of course it's mandatory to display rates according
to laws, this has been on since almost the beginning (after many people where cheated).

The thing is dialer pushers , the smart ones, jam that *.exe on you in a few very
inventive ways. It's all smoke and mirrors and stating what the laws are doesn't
reflect what the community does.

It's against the law to kill ppl yet ppl still get murdered. A statute doesn't stop
criminals and dishonesty.

[Wilber]

Originally posted by Toolz


I'd be very interested in just how you're getting away with paying out $1.00 AU, is this per call?

If you can't resolve their IP (dialerxp.com) and the domain reg info
shows you they are a sub-agent of dialer2003.com and that domain
neither resolves nor loads in a browser and you add to the fact that
you can't find one bit of info on Dialer2003 Ltd then one would have
to conclude that someone is going to a lot of trouble to hide.

If you hide that hard and are suppose to send checks then your probably
putting a down payment on a Mexican escape condo as we speak.

[Wilber]

...and when they are actively participating in a thread and you accuse them
of dishonesty and they don't defend themselves then you probably hit the
nail on the head.


No soup for you.

[cayne]

def. hate em. because its shaving. ok people are stupid, but anyway...dont like that way of making cash.

[BuckLover]

Never got great results with them??

[Manowar]

I dont use dialers or popups on my sites, it helps me see a hell of a lot more recurring visitors. applications popping up with pop up traps everywhere puts them off

[Steelhead]

Originally posted by Toolz


I'd be very interested in just how you're getting away with paying out $1.00 AU, is this per call?

On the per minute, your UK is low, we start at $1.41 per minute and pay higher depending on volume

Maybe the Australian telcom authorities had their domestic premium rate solution grandfathered in so it wasnt cut?

[pimplink]

fuckin' hate them!

[Ozzymosis1]

If you think dialers are no good, then I would have to say that is only because you have never made money with them. Webmasters are too quick to label things as "no good" or "crap" and its only because they haven't learned how to make it work.

Some of the best clients we have ever had are dialer clients. They are loyal, easy going, and are a joy to work with. Why do you think that is? It's because they are getting paid, and dont have to blame other people when things go wrong.

Dialers work well.

You just need to learn how to market them. If webmasters that complain all the time would take more time to learn how to sell things, and spend less time complaining about how the products suck they would all be rich.

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[reynold]

I don't use dialer on my sites!!

[VeriSexy]

Always hated them, good thing dialer days are over

[Shoehorn!]

Originally posted by Wilber

If you can't resolve their IP (dialerxp.com) and the domain reg info
shows you they are a sub-agent of dialer2003.com and that domain
neither resolves nor loads in a browser and you add to the fact that
you can't find one bit of info on Dialer2003 Ltd then one would have
to conclude that someone is going to a lot of trouble to hide.

If you hide that hard and are suppose to send checks then your probably
putting a down payment on a Mexican escape condo as we speak.

[Illicit]

Originally posted by pimplink
fuckin' hate them!

that sums it up !

[Toolz]

Originally posted by Steelhead


Maybe the Australian telcom authorities had their domestic premium rate solution grandfathered in so it wasnt cut?

Haha not holding my breath for that reply from them

[hova]

Depends on how they are promoted, but 90% I hate

[johnbosh]

eyah they are promoted very sgressively

[mardigras]

Originally posted by Manowar
I dont use dialers or popups on my sites, it helps me see a hell of a lot more recurring visitors. applications popping up with pop up traps everywhere puts them off

That's my philosophy

I've had DSL for about 4 years now so I haven't worried about dialers. What's this about dialers that work with DSL? Is there some sort of user interaction required to fund one (like voluntarily submitting billing info)? I can't imagine being able to bill otherwise if it is downloaded by getting a surfer to click an OK button or is "sneaked" onto a PC.

[DialerMaster]

Dialer works good if you know to send your traffic to the right source

[bluff]

HATE

[Seb From Holland]

I love em but with Dutch traffic only.