and you are a bag character

FYI, at every attempt to negotiate peace with the palestinians, Israel was the first to come and sit at the table. The bombings continued however.

How come we were able to make peace with egypt and give them their land back with no problem? How could we make peace with jordan and do business with them and travel back and forth? Palestinians don't want a peaceful solution. They want Israel burned to the ground.

you can't find terrorism

not the terrorism we currently experience, better get used to it

Former Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin was in charge of the Irgun, the people who blew up the King David Hotel. Did he have "murder in his eyes" when that bomb killed 91 people?

How about the present prime minister, Arik Sharon, when he led the notorious Unit 101 of the Hagannah, massacring Arab villagers? Much more recently, his own people were disgusted at what he allowed to happen in Sabra and Shatilla.

By all means attempt to justify why Israel acts as it does in purely pragmatic terms, but don't adopt a high moral tone or try to bury everyone in emotive rhetoric about murders and bloody hands.

eventually it doesnt matter who's right or wrong

we have the power to blow them all to the next level, but we don't do it...

They , however, use ALL THEIR POWER to get rid of us.
Basically, all I want, is to be able to live a normal life like americans, canadians, europeans. To solve the conflict and move on. Palestinians see only one solution to this conflict, and it involves a second holocaust...

The ignorant side of me, in answer to the "how to stop terrorism" question yells..."kill all the jews." A more intelligent answer is to stop the government control of the media. Take a look at what's on the news--gore, violence, rape. You very rarely see, anymore, good news--heroism, ect. . Why do we lock our doors at night? Percieved threats of invasion caused by the US mass media. Most people in Canada don't even bother.

How do we stop terrorism? By stopping their main source of energy -- fear in people's minds. Don't be afraid of them anymore, don't let them know you're afraid--if you really are--and they will disintegrate into nothingness. They're all cowards anyways--secret bombings, ect.

everything is all about the disputed land in Israel. War has been existing in that country for years and its just so happened that newer methods of human destruction has evolved aster centuries of fighting. Again, where do we see the UN intervertion in such un human act of killing innocent lives? Everything is out of control unless we all go back to the soul root of this fighting. Im sure every suicide bomber has his own reason to blow himself up. its just so sad that up to now, no peace has ever been achieved between the two countries.

First off, it was the Hagana who blew up the David Hotel. But they called ahead to warn the british about the bombing. The brits didnt believe it , and unfortunately many people got hurt. Since then they stopped diversy altogether.
Ofcourse there are those Israelis who want to see all palestinians dead, but for the most part, thats all just talk on their part. Give them a gun and a palestinian, they will not pull the trigger. On the other hand, the average palestinian kid will not hesitate and shoot an israeli ... fact, not speculation

LelikG, for pelestinians your prime minister is an ex-army mass murderer.

Care to remind us what happened in 1953 at village of Qibiya?

Can you explain me how this person can solve your problem?

DUDE WAKE UP!

trains DID blow up in Madrid... It can happen everywhere and anytime .

Ariel Sharon is our countrie's hero. He is a wise and ruthless man, as a politician should be. But he is not a king or a monarch.. We have a government, and a parliament, and whatever happens is decided by the people! because we are a DEMOCRACY!!!

You were able to make peace with Egypt because of the US agreement to make Egypt the second biggest recipient of US aid. Jordan simply doesn't want the Palestinians back because they would outnumber the Hashemite tribe to which the Hussein family owe their power. US aid again didn't hurt...

If Lelik isn't made up, he's the biggest idiot since MADRAGE. :1orglaugh Or, quite possibly, one and the same.

Palestinians should not be Israel's problem
And what's with all the US aid ??? US did not aid in anything until the 1970ies ... it was all us, jews...

Getting personal because you have nothing more to say?

You sound like one of those self righteous hypocrite fucks that knows only what they want to know about a situation and never bothers or simply can't bring yourself to dig deeper and fully understand a situation like this.

Both sides are just as guilty of terrorism and just as 'Cold Blooded' when it comes to murder as each other, denial wont change the fact.

And to say that ALL of a certain people will act and think the same way is so ignorant it'd be laughable if it wasnt such a serious topic.

I didn't say all of em.. I said the "average" .. so that's a misquote...
And don't pick into my words trying to dig out something that you can use to discredit me... It's not me you should worry about, it's that suicide bomber!

FACT: JEWS DO NOT BLOW UP TRAINS IN SPAIN... Although it seems as if they are more entitled to it than the muslims .. inquisition and all..

ahh yes, democracy, lets see. You get to choose the lesser of perhaps 2 or 3 evils and then have no say in what they do for 4+ years. fantastic.

yes, yes you dumb son of a bitch, but can you make a good meatball sandwich? with extra cheese and extra sause ?


that matters

No, thats USA :)

In israel all minorities are represented in a multiparty parliament system...

You sir are a fucking racist and you can go fuck yourself

To keep the record straight, what happens in Israel is frequently decided by small religious parties selling their votes in return for concessions that no-one except their own supporters want. On occasion, both Likud and Labor have only be able to govern via such compromises.

The reality is that Israeli opinion about the country's policy towards the Palestinians has been close to equally balanced for at least 20 years, swinging one way or the other usually for short periods. It is something Israelis can be proud of, that despite 50+ years of insecurity such as most of us will never know, so many of them retain a more balanced view than many outsiders seem capable of.

thats not kosher, cheese and meat :D

It's the same here( .au) and in many countries, coalitions between minor parties that can't get enough votes themselves to form government etc, the fact remains that once they're in you have no say and it's the lobby groups with the most power and influence that get their way, without external pressures.

Yes but it's all equally distributed. The religious minorities get what they want. Labour supporters get what they want. Even the Muslim minorities get what they want ( Dead Jews )
Everybody gets what they want, except for me... I want to STOP TERRORISM!!!

get out of palestine?

And a million bucks... but that's that.. oK ? :)

uhh , make us... ?

You gave alone the answer. Your people are not smart enough to deserve peace at the moment. Take it as hard you can, because I mean it.

Then you will get what you deserve.

your problem, not mine.

oh, you just joined gfy today?(70post/day average) i'll stop wasting my time in this thread.

I need to go with the ban religion argument. Most of the horrors that have effected this planet during the reign of man have been caused in the name of god. Doesn't matter which god but if you don't believe in the right one of the moment and place you need to die.

No religion is innocent and religion has always been used as a tool of government to influence people and justify anything.

If there is a god, any god, he/ she / it would not want his / her /it's disciples to butcher in the name of god.

Get rid of god and we can just be secular and fight about resources and borders, something people can deal with and negotiate. Add the god factor and people become irrational.

Anyway, I made a mistake thinking that opinions of people can be swayed towards feeling for the Jewish people. I guess history repeats itself, and the world has once more turned against the Jews, but now the Jews are armed with nukes... how bout that?

Yes I joined today, and I welcome myself ... After three years out of the business I got an opportunity to come back. Thanks for your time... come back again... :ak47:

I too am jewish, still I stand by my statement that religion, all religion is evil that binds humanity to continued violence.

The only difference between a jew and an arab is religion. Askanizi jews and Saudi's are so genetically similar as to share certain very specific genetic diseases.

If you read above , I mentioned that I am not religious..

Jews are a nation... Like americans, canadians, etc.. etc..

This thread was not about Israel - Palestine who is right...

This thread's purpose was to open the eyes of some people to a way to stop terrorism!
many ways to do it, which one is the best? Here's one...

Okay, how do we stop American and Israeli terrorism?

You committed big mistake. Do you prefer honest opinions or pity and fake feelings? Sympathy alone doesn't get you far. Past decades proved it.

It will start from us.......