50 reasons to pick ccbill

we were just about to signup let me think a zillion yrs again :) ccbill it is !

Thank you Matthew - appreciate that!

It is good to see webmasters with economic backing and a solid technical foundation be successful in this industry

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

haha I like how Oystein tries to suggest that it's due to my
incompetence and lack of money.

This is his usual tack. Rather than looking at the problems and
trying to come up with solutions that make his company easier to
deal with and his software better. He'd rather blame the client.

Hospitals would be a great business without the patients eh Oystein? :-)

You have no idea how much money is behind us. :-)

I think those that know me will tell you that it's beyond a doubt
that I have more programming experience and write code of a
much higher standard then those people that coded MPA2. :-)

So you've got 1 happy shill? Just 1? I have a nice list of unhappy
MPA2 customers emails here if you'd like to ask them what they
think.

-Ben

I second that...

As if no other program has a shaving feature built in whether you use it or not....

If you do then why did you go with MPA2 in the first place?

I don't think this is why the majority of people have a problem with it.

their bugs are not that big that make it not worthwhile using their system...

Many programs use mpa2 and I have not seen big bugs that made the script impossible to work with except maybe 2-3 very small bugs that they fixed

If you followed up on the reading of the recent mpa2 threads you will see of course the shaving is the major reason
a lot of people believe everything they hear and think no other program shaves...yea right lol :1orglaugh

those with really really high quality sites can afford to pay $35 per signup without shaving but it isn't that easy to do even then which is why many of those with $35-40 rates having REAL shitty sites shave big time and thats the webmasters fault because they tend to go for programs with largest PPS rates and just now starting to VERY SLOWLY realize that PPS rate is not everything but the amount of money you end up with after 10000 clicks or whatever

My recommendation was that I code cascading myself. However
time isn't always on hand and at that stage MPA2 seemed the
easier option although I was always suspect on the lack of
features it presented.

I must say the code itself isn't very buggy. As far as bugs the
closest thing is processor changes and things like that. These can
leave holes in the system that affiliates would never really notice.

My main concern was support. I've never once received an
update as to the status of any of our support tickets, emails are
go unanswered or returned with cut & paste responses, and the
time zones which the programmers worked in meant we never
had a chance to discuss our problems with them. The first
example of job status not being reported was our initial install
which I only found-out was "complete" (hardly) after contacting
Mansion to find-out what the hell was taking so long. Their
version of a "complete" is one where demo version code is left
in.... oh I could go on but there was just too many problems to
list and too many unanswered emails to go back over.

Regarding not getting status updates.... I have complained about
this in just about every email to them. Instead of fixing the
problem they blame it on me. Seeing the "mass mail" feature in
MPA2 and the way the code for that works I can see their
programmers don't have very much experience with email and
this probably explains why their ticket system doesn't work. But
will they fix it? nope, It's the customers fault always the
customers fault.

-Ben

make sure you add in the stat bug which loves to pop up every week without failure.

i don't quiet follow

can you explain this a little better please? thanks

Ok well you didn't really cover support in your response but I'm sure they're glad they have you on the defence for them.

Now if they just fit the scrubometer they would be perfect
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=254706

I must check out that programe when I visit next week Ben.

they are not asking me to do anything
and as for their support they do not ignore the tickets unless they did not go through their system for some reason which I doubt happens

Ben please read that thread carefully :winkwink:

ya I admined a program using MPA2 and it was a joke to say the least, weekly issues with not tracking clicks, its really not hard to understand. Go to bed for 6 hours and wake up to 15 icq windows asking why stats are fucked for the last 5 hours, it was weekly without failure. They have plenty of bugs that need to be addressed.

I dont see this happening with any of the many successful programs using mpa2

I do not work for them in any way but simply giving my opinion on things

yes, yes the customer is always wrong. sorry i forgot. BTW, I never said they were asking you to 'do' anything. I was just pointing out that you are very agressive in your defence of them.

yes because I don't see these problems with other programs that use them

a few out of the many maybe which could be you in this case :(

sounds pretty unprofessional of mpa

You have insight into the behind the scenes operations and admin / programming of many of the successful programs using mpa2?

You must be the most trusted troll in the business.

Lemme give you a hint... if a program is having technical difficulties on a weekly basis, they tend to not let all of their affiliates know it. It's bad for business.

Well, perhaps you can atleast accept that;

1) It's NOT perfect.
2) Other people DO find problems with it. (including support)
3) Just because you don't see a problem, it DOES'NT mean it's not there.

Nah only the ones that aren't game to start fully promoting until
they are sure it actually works. :-)

-Ben

You are right but the webmasters will notice it and if it is a big problem people will know about it

1) nothing is perfect
2) the way it looks like right now some do and some don't...
3) if it is like that you can say that for ANY script

well so far only those programs that actually do know what they are doing are doing well with it

your fuckin clueless go away. I admined a program that had 30k members, ya they have no clue, get fuckin lost TROLL

I am not going to pick a fight here but who is acting unprofessional now??? one out of many and there are always 2 sides to a story so....

Just a word of advice from a stoned observer of this thread.....
don't use this thread to sling shit between the two of you who
are involved.....it won't benefit either of you no matter who's
right or wrong.....take my word for it.....

For some reason the user is not satisfied with the service and
therefor ends the business relation.....keep it profesional and
move on.....what might be good for you does not automatically
mean it isn't good for others....It's a fact that many other
webmasters are satisfied with MPA2 and it is not for a reason
why they have become so big.......

You end the relation you move on that's what you do when you're
not satisfied.....expressing your dislikes is ok.....but keep it clean
and professional....that will give you far more credit than burning
down a company.....at least that's just my opinion.....and yes I
know opinions are like assholes....everybody has one :2 cents:

The part about not being professional I assume applies to Veterans Day and not me

At least be professional about it
we are not little kids we are working in an adult business here so that makes it even worse :1orglaugh:

It actually was intended for mryellow and Oystein but I think
this advise could be usefull for anybody doing business......
Actually I didn't mean to point the finger to anybody in specific
I can't explain it very well.....smoking weed apperently does
affect my ability to express myself in words.....lol....hmmm
now I'm really lost......

I guess what I wanted to say is that I understand that when
something fucks up you get upset and at those times it's easy
to get emotional and start slinging shit.....so I thought I'd mention
the word of advise....(which I didn't made up myself) for the parties involved like a *hint* or something......shit....I hope you
get the idea.....what I'm trying to say.....if not I'll try again tomorrow when I wake up sober......:helpme

I think now is good time to stop posting....I just read this reply
back and apart from making an ass out of myself or as you wish
an even bigger ass.......this thing doesn't make much sense.....
oh well.........what else can I do than apologise for wasting your
time reading this crap.......I'm sorry boys and girls.......I would
like to promise that it won't happen again.....but I'm afraid I
can't live up to that promise.....you'll just have to forgive me
or ignore me.........I guess I stop now.....

fuck you TROLL is that professional enough for you:glugglug

the damage can also be bigger because it's adult.....if you work
a while in this industry you come to realise that there are not
THAT many people in this industry and you will meet a lot of the
same faces over and over again.....and very likely every now and
then the faces switch companies.....so beware of burning bridges
the people you burn at company X you might later meet again
with some other company.....if you visit the shows you'll see that
even though this industry seems huge.....it's actually very, very
small.......

Honestly, don't you think it's a bit stupid to bash a program that you still need but let everyone know including themselves that they suck and you will drop them?

I don't think that's what happened. It was a notice of a change with reasons listed. ( any professional organisation would find this valuable critical or not for further operations )

People have a right to their opinions, but i think any professional organisation or individual needs to accept opposing opinions and move on rather than attempting to prove someone wrong or 'win' or even discredit other's opinions.

poor support, shaving features, over charge fee, bad attitude are the biggest problesm of mpa2.

Hey fuck off... we had mpa2 also (and no affiliates) and the stats database was always fucked up or the links was down for 2 days... we lost more money than we made using that software.

You better have a good reason to leave a program that cost $2000 for the setup alone... after using it for 3 months.

Support was pretty good on my side, I did not give a fuck about the shave module that was included but turned off anyway (I never requested it)... I simply hated the bugs and the price to add a processor ($8000 ROFL)

I agree that they tend to put the fault on you when they can't fix a problem.

I agree 100% but experience in this industry tells me something else :Graucho

I have to agree....

You'll notice I've kept this pretty civil and kept my distance from
posting anything personal or any direct quotes from Mansion
staff. I'm simply stating that we've switched and the reasons for
this. I haven't brought anything personal into the equation. I'm
sure Oystein hates me but that's been the case for a while now
anyway so no big loss there. You never know he's probably
picked up sales from this thread all the same.

If others wish to use this thread to go a bit further I have no
problem with that. We're all free to have our opinions.

-Ben

I did notice.....and you did good by doing so :thumbsup

edit: lol wrong smiley....hehehe it's the weed man, it's the weed

exactly.

Anyway....

all the best with the program!

:-)

that is why more and more sponsors drop mpa2.

Queef Hunter!

I hadn't seen this version of it.... the video guy has another mix
which is on the DVD which is almost music. :-)

http://www.crotchhunter.com/queefhunter.mpg

As we aussies say "fanny fart".

-Ben

CCBill rocks now:thumbsup

MPA2 is such a rock solid program with rock solid people behind it.

(DISCLAIMER: I don't believe a fucking word I just uttered, I'm spewing bullshit to make people happy and my true thoughts on the subject lie somewhere in the Medium Pimpin is ditching MPA2 thread, thank you for reading this fine print, FUCK MPA2!!!!!!!!!)

:1orglaugh

in other words I don't pay my bills but please bend over backward for me to make it easier for me to assassinate your reputation.

Fetishbucks has always used custom software, I've never bought MPA and can't speak to it's effectiveness, but I know Oystein very well and I have to say he's one of my favorite guys in this business. If he doesn't like you, you earned it somehow.

He gets upset with anyone that has a problem with his software.

Oddly enough I changed software and all my 'fake' problems went away. I have had at least 1000% + growth in the last 30 days after I changed.

i remeber there were a few other threads also complaining mpa2, and brokeup with it. mpa2 seems to be shite program