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beemk 03-16-2004 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by bcooter
30k and 50k for houses??? where the fuck are you guys????

cheapest house i had ever shown was 68k, and the only way to make it livable was to tear it down and start over. and it was in the ghetto.

and you live in detroit? are you kidding? what part of detroit do you live in?

sacX 03-16-2004 03:51 AM

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Originally posted by The Other Steve
Jump on a plane and come to Queensland but bring your cheque book with you.

Go to little places along the coast like Yeppoon and start buying waterfront houses - nothing flash - just basic 3 to 4 bedroom houses. In around five years those places are going to be worth big money.

Down here where we live a 4 bedroom house on 1/4 acre block just across the road from the beach just went for 4 million.

The owner didn't even have it on the market - a resort developer just knocked on the door and offered him the 4 mil with no haggling - a week later the cash was in his bank account.

In 5 years time Yeppoon and further north is going to go the way of this place and developers are going to be walking around with suitcases full of money.

A house like that would be going for around $A300,000 or even less atm - that's $US221,504.42 at the current exchange rate.

I dunno where Yeppoon is, but anywhere around Port Douglas is damn nice!! Thinking seriously about getting a place there.

sacX 03-16-2004 03:53 AM

i'm investing in typein adult names. If you do your research you can find names that will return >50% in the first year.. and after you've made your initial investment back they're pretty much a cash cow. Of course risks are like those in adult, visa stops processing?, people stop typing in?!

Of course you're probably wanting to diversify out of internet porn :)

TheJimmy 03-16-2004 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
all i'd ever ask is a garanteed 10% every single year (hell, i'd take 8%), with zero risk, for the rest of my life. i would be in nirvana. instead, it will always be a job.

oversee this 'job'


don't get stuck on the 'independence' level of:

1) dependence
2) independence
3) interdependence...




ok ok ok, I'm having too much fun quoting book derived concepts this morning ;)

PS: this one is from one of Covey's books...

sake 03-16-2004 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by ajpiii
Real Estate... Lots of Rental properties. then hire a management company to take care of it. Just collect the profits. Cant loose money in Real Estate.
I agree. Gotta invest some money in real estate, always a GOOD profit.

bluff 03-16-2004 11:37 AM

quiet, it's not cool to play the 'playah'. It's stupid, actually.

Basic_man 03-16-2004 11:41 AM

Invest it and make 2 millions :thumbsup

x-vision 03-16-2004 11:43 AM

It takes money to make money. It's way easier to keep it than make it to begin with. Now that I have it, I have investements working for me that I don't even need to touch and they pay all my bills. My income just adds to my bank account.

rjstar 03-16-2004 11:44 AM

Student accomadation is a good profitable business. Get someone to oversea your properties and you will make a fair amount.

tbabe 03-16-2004 11:50 AM

have you considered loan sharking? Get some of that money on the street and mae it work for you. :)

Head 03-16-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
once you're rich, you face a lifetime of retaining that wealth. how do you do it? discuss... :)
invest! Make your money work for you not you work for your money!

SetTheWorldonFire 03-16-2004 11:57 AM

Sell some more porn :thumbsup

Huggles 03-16-2004 12:03 PM

Quiet, you ever goto Whistler in the Summer?

Herb Kornfield 03-16-2004 12:15 PM

Here is the plan that works for me here.

Renting out rooms in houses. You can get a 5-6 bedroom house in Philly that are in decent areas for $20k - $40k. I've got one for 10k in a more industrial area that has 8 bedrooms.

1. $100 a week for a room.

2. $10 per week for a ethernet drop off the cable modem ( 8 port linksys, lol )

3. $20 a month for " colo space " aka - basement storage in a 6X10 wire cage area in the basement. Padlock included.

4. One time $10 fee to provide a pallet to keep your gear off the basement floor.

What is provided.

1. Cable TV / hot water / heat / laundry facilites / power / safe environment.

For the tennants we get ( halfway house vets, etc ) this is the most stable place they have to go to and are fantastic people. Sure they have made mistakes, but, also, I get people that pay on time and if they dont, just hit the bricks that night.

Here is the bottom line.

10k house - note is $117.00 a month
utiliites average --- $700.00 a month
misc costs brings it to about a thousand a month.

The tennats are paying

$3200.00 a month in rents ( 8 rooms at $100 per week )
$200 a month in cable modem ethernet drops
$400 a month in storage space fees.

$3800.00 a month / $2800.00 a month profit.

Rooming houses make the world go round...
:thumbsup :thumbsup

Nismo 03-16-2004 12:29 PM

with $1mil + in the bank, the possibilities are endless.

Lykos 03-16-2004 12:38 PM

I will let u know as soon as i made one:winkwink:

hoe_vender 03-16-2004 12:53 PM

that is the truth

beemk 03-16-2004 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
Renting out rooms in houses. You can get a 5-6 bedroom house in Philly that are in decent areas for $20k - $40k. I've got one for 10k in a more industrial area that has 8 bedrooms.

damn i thought houses in detroit were cheap.... isnt it hard to find people to rent the house and worry about them paying, etc... or do you hire that out?

Paparazzi 03-16-2004 01:13 PM

start a poker site :)

phantom 03-17-2004 08:51 PM

McDonalds franchise's :winkwink:

or if you can find someone you can trust who has experience in real esate try developing instead of just renting out.
buy a property in a new estate, subdivide, build houses, sell and move on

Ic3m4nZ 03-17-2004 08:51 PM

100 millions bling bling

SleazyDream 03-17-2004 09:37 PM

something interesting - if you bought stock at the worst possible time - the DAY before the 1929 stock market crash- and diversified it across the top 200 companies ten years later you STILL would have received the equivalant of about 8% annual compounded growth on your money.

year to year it's risky, but over 10 and 20 year periods the stock market is very safe if properly diversified.

what does that mean for large sums - well wihdrawing a set PERCENTAGE of the total every year - not a set amount - will maintain your wealth and allow you to continue to outpace inflation.

long term inflation is 3-4% - assuming 8-9% on a WELL diversifed equity only portfolio, that means that a million cash withdrawing about 6-7 % will provide about $65,000 a year income adjusted to inflation every year for life - with some flucation up and down on the year depending on how good or bad the year was.

what does that mean - a lot more money than I was hoping to put away - in other words more work for longer till i retire

serious 03-17-2004 10:23 PM

are there really places where you can get a house for 10k with 8 bedrooms??

i have never heard of anything this cheap before, maybe im not understanding it right?

KRL 03-17-2004 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by ajpiii
Real Estate... Cant loose money in Real Estate.
That's an erroneous statement. You can lose your shirt in real estate just like anything else if you don't know what you're doing.

I have one friend who bought 24 rental home properties. She thought it would be a breeze to find tentants. Well it wasn't as easy as she thought and she had some nightmare tenants in one that played every game in the book to stay in the house without paying. Others messed up her homes bad. Some of the homes she bought had roof problems. It was one thing after another and she's just about at the belly up point now where the bank is about to foreclose on a bunch of her properties. She just didn't plan her cash flow well.

I lost $500,000 myself in a real estate deal that went south.

So don't ever think real estate is a sure thing.

KRL 03-17-2004 10:36 PM

The real secret to maintaining it is to keep working.

When I was younger and tried the semi retirement thing, I started doing diversified investing and the returns sucked in comparison to what I could have done with that capital by just plowing back into businesses I knew and was good at.

I've never been able to find anyone who could make me a return better than I could do on my own endeavors. Not a single one.

pussyluver 03-17-2004 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by shermsshack
This is a great questions. I feel the key to keeping the nestegg growing is having sound financial advice that points you in the right direction in regards to investments. Just like porn, having your money spread out among a few ventures is a smart thing. If all is put in Real Estate or Day Trading, you may end up losing what was once a great amount.

Also, making sure you always have good solid legal and tax advice will give you a lot les headaches. Regardless of what you invest in though, make sure YOU have knowledge to make smart decisions, and just use those behind you to double check your decisions. :thumbsup

:thumbsup Well put.

Hire the right CFP (Certified Financial Planner or Firm) to work with the right law firm. The single biggest problem is picking the right people to help manage the cash. Actually the list is longer. You need more than one attorney. Estate planning is one, tax is another along with that CFP and CPA.

Oh, a mil? not that much anyway these days. We just spent all that money on staff.

quiet 03-17-2004 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
I've never been able to find anyone who could make me a return better than I could do on my own endeavors. Not a single one.
very true. i'm still looking, and i doubt i'll ever find it.

Sloane 03-18-2004 12:07 AM

Investing in property is a must if you are in a high income earner. The government is basically paying you to invest! Plus with property you can leverage to the fuckhouse and have nothing come out of your pockets after rental yield and tax benifits.

If you had 1mil to invest the banks will lend you at least another 4 million keeping LoanValueRatio at 20% Even if the property market has a shit year and capital growth is only 3%, you have still made $150,000 in equity...put that same million in the bank at 5% you have only made $50,000 and then they will tax half of that.

Property is very forgiving over time...you have to look at it as a 10-30 year investment. Not sure about Canada or US but in AU the average capital growth for residential property has been 12% PA over the past 100 years.

SleazyDream 03-18-2004 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by KRL


I've never been able to find anyone who could make me a return better than I could do on my own endeavors. Not a single one.

wise words - VERY wise words

cashman 03-18-2004 12:15 AM

Buy multi-residential properties with cash flows. You can't loose.

ziwatt 03-18-2004 12:20 AM

Invest...save...invest...and save some more. Pretty solid investments that gives atleast annual 50% ROI are:

http://www.superfund.com/ Trades
http://www.investforclosures.com/ Real Estates


The rich keep getting richer.

- Jesus Christ - 03-18-2004 12:23 AM

?Life is like highschool with money.? -Frank Zappa

Krille 03-18-2004 12:25 AM

just buy candy for the money

bigbrothel 03-18-2004 12:56 AM

We did 80%+ last year on the stock market last year with 10% max risk. The average person does not understand how easy this is and cannot comprehend numbers like this due to the fact that we are all fed financial bullshit all day. There are low risks traders doing 200%+

If you want some info on a hedge fund that will return 50%+ hit me up.

pornoshare 03-18-2004 01:01 AM

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reynold 03-18-2004 01:04 AM

some thing are not meant to last.....

casinobiz 03-18-2004 01:06 AM

You simply keep making more!!!


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