oh, and I guess you believe you do?:1orglaugh

believe what? that countires have been bullied. Yeah, I live in one of those countries. I am sure there are others here who live in countries that have also been bullied.

apparentely, Al Quaida got pissed off and used it as an exuse, tard.

Yeah, like Kuwait.

That's no news... :1orglaugh

that said, the UK isn't nearly as bullied as other 'smaller' (weight wise) countries. Living on the doorstep of those countries and being part of the European Union might make that more visable.

with us or against us weren't just words uttered in a speach. Regardless of if some people think that is part of a justified 'by any means necessary' method it is the truth.

Last I heard, you lived in england.
If you think England was bullied, its just a dopey opinion not based on fact.

and what exactly was the punishment of those who were bullied who still didn't support it?

:1orglaugh

Yes we did! Got beef?

got pissed off over what? their friends being ousted?

but there was no connection.
:1orglaugh

Its not the oil. Its the price of oil which is now at $36 / barrel.

dude, you're confused :1orglaugh

translation: my lies have caught up with me.

and that has what to do with countries like Spain? Kuwait was something totally different and they feel a debt of gratitude so they fall in.

Look, in this thread I am not arguing the rights and wrong of the 'war' because frankly I wasn't totally against the war (even if I didn't like the reasons behind it all that much) and also that debate has been had before.

This is saying that one of 'allies' took one because we asked (or told...you decide) them to stand by us.

Now, for you all it might be a far away country but for some of us we had people we know who just missed blowing up. Remember 9/11? Well to a lot of people over here it feels like that right now.

So, snide comments and 'lets play with the idiot newbies that don't know enough not to argue back to 12clicks' attitude is going to piss people off. Worst terroist attack in Europe - EVER - so how about not being jackasses for a minute and giving a ounce of respect to the people that died.

I could play 'lets twist phrases' all day but frankly wether Al Queda was connected to iraq before or after is symantics. Just because there wasn't a connection doesn't mean we didn't create this situation.

People demand that parts of Europe kiss the feet of America all the time because of ww2. One nation just paid back a bit of that debt and people play 'asshole of the day' with it. Have fun.

trade tarrifs amongst other things including new visa regulations.

I don't know, you said "I'm sure other countries have been bullied" and I said "yeah, like Kuwait".





Yeesh.

I hope Bush lose.

Cut your laughing smiley: you look like an old idiot....

Answer to your question:

PS: USA gov site, in case you try to make it " a pot smoker, gay , "liberal" " democratic" website...

:321GFY

Spain helped a country take over another one and they paid for it. It's nothing new.

Kerry is a jew :helpme

And by saying it you are wrong. Spain "took one" because you euro-dopes all don't find terrorist to be a concern.
Spain "took one" for europe, not the US

well, hopefully europe will realize we're all in this together and that its not US against terror and euro-pansies need not get involved.

This is about *YOU* not showing an ounce of respect for the people who died. Making your same old lame assed case about the US bullying, the US being wrong, Spain "taking one" for the US is nonsense and disrespectful.
Spain was attacked for doing what's right. The rest of europe should be ashamed, not asking the US to acknowledge Spain taking one for us. thats utter bullshit.

the truth always becomes symantics when waved in the face of a liberal.

wrong. as usual

Iraq bombed Spain?

where's your source?

ahahahaha:1orglaugh only in the moronic mind of a directfiesta is,
"assist Bulgaria financially and in other ways to be a contributing member in the global war against terrorism." described as "the punishment of those who were bullied who still didn't support it?"

when the peanut gallery jumps to the keyboard, they aught to bring their brains.:1orglaugh

No, Spain bombed Iraq and some people chose to take revenge. It's a vicious cycle.

you're truly clueless.

really, you talked to these people?
they told you they bombed Spain because of iraq?
you were a Dean supporter, right?:1orglaugh

yep:(

Your way of thinking is no different than people in other countries who've fallen victim to terrorism. It's same old, same old to me, I used to be the same way to. You'll eventually get it.

come back when you have an argument.
your version of the truth keeps changing to fit you position.
first there's no connection between iraq and al queda, now Spain is bombed over iraq by al queda.


oh, and I'm sure you NEVER used to be the same way.

Bush I was a moron. He made it obvious that oil was his concern years ago by "encouraging" the Shi'ites to "rise up" against Saddam instead of chasing him into Baghdad. Then Saddam gets the clearance to gun down the Shi'ites. Where was the US then?
They had already secured their oil buddy and had no intention of "ousting Saddam," EVER.

Years pass; Bush II comes into power. It has been reported that his administration was planning a little party with Iraq BEFORE 9/11. It's about oil again. Not to mention INFRASTRUCTURE... blow shit up, pay your buds to build it back up. The same cabal of thirty people or so have been getting rich from bloated government contract pork since the late 70s.

Outright lies in speech after speech. Hell, the nuclear Saddam thing was PULLED from a speech that PRECEDED the state of the union address, due to the intelligence folks -- in the US and the rest of the fucking global intel community -- calling it bad data.

Wake up fuckers.

Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Co. decided long ago that the US needed a strong military presence in the middle east. Iraq was the best place to fudge a little to convince the unwashed masses.

And whattaya know, here we are, unwashed and stoopider than ever.

And CHRIST. ANY PRESIDENT would have attacked Afghanistan after 9/11. Bush has no more balls than any other politician who is happy to send OTHER PEOPLE's kids into the crossfire.

And don't play like this is a liberal vs conservative issue. It is NOT. Conservatives don't want to see their kiddies die in a useless quagmire any less than the liberals across the street. If you let the GOP marketing machine convince you otherwise, you have been SUBVERTED.

Simpler version for simple minds:

Countries critical of Iraq war:

France: The United States hints at trade sanctions, while the Pentagon withdraws aircraft and senior military brass from Paris Air Show.
Chile: A free trade agreement under negotiation, the first with a South American country, is postponed but still expected to be signed.
New Zealand: Anti-war comments by the prime minister have put a chill on hopes for a free trade agreement.
Syria: The United States has threatened trade sanctions if it continues to support terrorist organizations and shelter former Iraqi officials.



and:

Coalition-supporting countries:

Singapore: A free trade agreement lowering tariffs and quatos, the first with an Asian country, was signed last week and is expected to win approval in Congress.
Jordan: Under a free-trade agreement that's the first with a Muslim country, Jordanian companies are in a good position to get a piece of postwar reconstruction work in Iraq.
Australia: A proposed free trade agreement has been put on the fast track.
Great Britain: British companies are expected to get contracts for reconstruction work in postwar Iraq.



I will pass on the saying of the US ambassador to Canada.... Anyway, you obviously are getting dumber by the day. Wonder even how can this be possible ...

You will understand this at least:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Heuh? Are you claiming that there's a connection between Saddam and Al-Qaeda because Al-Qaeda wants to revenge the invasion of a Muslim country?

Absolutely right ...

http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bushsr-iraq.jpg

poor deluded child.
I notice you don't post the link for this info. ashamed of how liberal you had to go to find it?:1orglaugh

your "facts" are a reach. "threatened" this, "postponed" that, wow, that's some real bullying there.:1orglaugh

no, I'm claiming al queda picked Spain because it was pretty. :rolleyes:

Long way to say "wouldn't be prudent?"

*edit* Also, a long way to say "no I swear, it wasn't about oil. No, really. I mean it. I have a legacy to think of, people; stop thinking about yourselves so much."

Where are your facts.
The only link you post is: http://www.12shitsisanidiot.com

Not really reliable.

Here is the link for your info. Read the whole thing if you still have an old vbrain cell left.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security...esrewarded.htm

Let me remind you that Al-Qaeda was volunteering to drive out the Iraqi forces from Kuwait at the time.

But hey keep making up your own facts, you probably even still believe the WMD stuff anyways.

12 Clicks, they can't earn a living, that is why they post such garbage.


You hear what Kerry's idea is to protect against terrorism?

He wants to implement see through cargo carriers to be able to see the contents....

Ya he sounds like a winner....the guy is a fucking ass.....lol

Like 12Shits, : LINK????

I know guys who are much smarter than I am and who are making less than I do and guys who are a lot dumber than I am and are making more.

can you post a fact I made up in this thread or is this just the straw you grasp at when you've lost the argument?:1orglaugh


Roger, its ok to think al queda and iraq are the good guys.
its what makes you different from me.

Me 2 :thumbsup
we here in Europe have Bush and USA to thank for mutch

it makes you no less amazing.:1orglaugh

still searching this thread for my "made up facts" or did you chose this spot to run off?

Heuh? What facts are you talking about? I didn't read all your posts in this thread, so stop talking in codes and get to the point.

I don't think al-qaeda and Iraq are the good guys and I don't think that Bush is the good guy either. I'm no idiot. Everyone is guilty in this shit.

I'm sorry, but 12Clicks, I can't help but read your posts in the voice of the fat comic book guy from the simpsons.

"poor deluded child . . .worst episode ever" . . .

And now, some beautful music from 12Clicks favorite administration:


http://bootyking.net/ash.html

the point is you're not very bright when you post this:

and then when called on it, post this:

:1orglaugh

yes, child. Everyone is guilty.
we make the terrorists attack people.:1orglaugh

hey, you have a good day figuring out how to post without using code.
I gotta go play. its sunday.

i enjoy these threads...:glugglug

I thought you claimed that Al-Qaeda and Saddam had connections and then when I asked you if that's what you believe you came up with an unclear answer.

hey, I'm not the one who used to be friends with Saddam and Ben Laden.