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Old 03-13-2004, 08:04 PM   #1
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do you belive in god?

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30th god thread.

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Old 03-13-2004, 08:09 PM   #8
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Old 03-13-2004, 08:10 PM   #9
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what is a god?

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Old 03-13-2004, 08:14 PM   #13
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Old 03-13-2004, 09:14 PM   #14
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Old 03-13-2004, 09:20 PM   #16
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if i could id kill people just to prove its not a sin.
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Old 03-14-2004, 12:31 AM   #19
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If God is meant to be worshipped, don't we all in one sense or another believe in God...some worship the unseen, and others worship money

Just depends on what you define your God as.
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Old 03-14-2004, 12:36 AM   #20
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Old 03-16-2004, 02:43 AM   #25
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I used to do but now I'm not so sure about religion anymore..
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What do you know about Jesus that you didn't learn from the Church?
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Old 03-16-2004, 04:39 AM   #32
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no, I dont belive in any such religion, allthough I am christianized(word?) when I was small.......still dont belive in it.......
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no, I dont belive in any such religion, allthough I am christianized(word?) when I was small.......still dont belive in it.......
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What do you know about Jesus that you didn't learn from the Church?
everything... with all due respect I was raised Catholic but after I did some research I found that the Roman Catholic church has a lot of traditions that are against the Bible and that God/Jesus do not approve off.

I also think that the different churches that exist only make it harder for ppl coz in the end it boils down to one thing: Jesus
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everything... with all due respect I was raised Catholic but after I did some research I found that the Roman Catholic church has a lot of traditions that are against the Bible and that God/Jesus do not approve off.

I also think that the different churches that exist only make it harder for ppl coz in the end it boils down to one thing: Jesus
There is no such thing as "the Bible" devoid of Church influence though. If you read a history of how the New Testament was compiled you'll see that it is a hodgepodge of various thoughts and influences who in the period 100 A.D. - 370 A.D. or so and with many twists and turns for the most part were able to agree upon a standard New Testament.

Why were some books canonized and others weren't? Why do we read Matthew and Mark but not Thomas or the The Infancy Gospel? All of these books enjoyed popularity in various parts of the region and in various churches. Why were there purposeful (and accidental) deletions and additions especially during this time?

The most influential of the early church leaders, various "free thinkers" and various sects all debated each other and competed to get their beliefs canonized. Various councils of Bishops took votes on canonization and various Roman emperors lent considerable prestige to the views they most agreed with. Not beung hunted by the empire did a lot for your popularity. Of all the early Christian sects it was the Roman church, naturally, which understood this best.
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yes i do, but not the way he is depicted by religions...
there's 2 definitions according to the dictionary
there's God and god note the capitalization
in all definitions, you ARE in fact your own god...however, according to the biblical referance, you are the son of God
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There is no such thing as "the Bible" devoid of Church influence though. If you read a history of how the New Testament was compiled you'll see that it is a hodgepodge of various thoughts and influences who in the period 100 A.D. - 370 A.D. or so and with many twists and turns for the most part were able to agree upon a standard New Testament.

Why were some books canonized and others weren't? Why do we read Matthew and Mark but not Thomas or the The Infancy Gospel? All of these books enjoyed popularity in various parts of the region and in various churches. Why were there purposeful (and accidental) deletions and additions especially during this time?

The most influential of the early church leaders, various "free thinkers" and various sects all debated each other and competed to get their beliefs canonized. Various councils of Bishops took votes on canonization and various Roman emperors lent considerable prestige to the views they most agreed with. Not beung hunted by the empire did a lot for your popularity. Of all the early Christian sects it was the Roman church, naturally, which understood this best.
don't get your undies in a twist dude, calm down... I was referring to the Roman Catholic church as we know nowadays. I think it is emphasizing the part of the church in religion way too much. The traditions used in the Roman Catholic church are sometimes in contradiction to the Bible and I do take the Bible above this.
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Very powerful.... I feel the same way (re: too bad the church went wrong).

I believe in God and that Jesus is our saviour, too... and finally, have found a church that rocks. It's a methodist church where the theme of the ministry is 'Love All, Serve One'... simple and pure. I LOVE it
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don't get your undies in a twist dude, calm down... I was referring to the Roman Catholic church as we know nowadays. I think it is emphasizing the part of the church in religion way too much. The traditions used in the Roman Catholic church are sometimes in contradiction to the Bible and I do take the Bible above this.
Hmmm. I'm completely calm. The questions I asked were rhetorical. ;-)

You are avoiding my gist of my thread however. You're wishing to take the Bible as "above" the Church and yet the canonized Bible was formed as a result of the Church. The Bible can tell you no more about the mind of God than the Church can.

What words in the Bible are those of Jesus? The ones with the red letters? Then which of the words in the non-canonical gospels are those of Jesus? Some, none, or all?
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When were they right?
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