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Old 03-14-2004, 08:49 PM   #1
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Are the spanish a bunch of sheep?

Nice to know they let terror make the decision for them and their votes. Guess Bin Laden won this one......

"Voters ousted Spain?s ruling party in elections Sunday, with many saying they were shaken by bombings in Madrid and furious with the government for backing the Iraq war and making their country a target for al-Qaida.

Until the bombing, the conservative Popular Party was projected by most polls to beat the Socialists, although perhaps without retaining their majority in the 350-seat Congress of Deputies.

But the disaster, which the government initially blamed on the Basque separatist group ETA, threw the election wide open. The attack was followed by emotional rallies across the country."
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Old 03-14-2004, 08:55 PM   #2
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Very nice soundbite. Did you mention that a large portion of the population was against the government's decision to get involved in the war in the first place. So if anything, it just shows democracy finally working properly. Government makes bad decision, and democracy forces the old government out, and a new one, more in line with the peoples wishes in.

Just another view on the sitaution
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:06 PM   #3
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the former spanish government got just what they deserved , they didn't listen to their people saying NO to war and they got housted.

at the same time i find it suspicious that the bombings happened just before the elections
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:07 PM   #4
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Nice to know they let terror make the decision for them and their votes. Guess Bin Laden won this one......

"Voters ousted Spain?s ruling party in elections Sunday, with many saying they were shaken by bombings in Madrid and furious with the government for backing the Iraq war and making their country a target for al-Qaida.

Until the bombing, the conservative Popular Party was projected by most polls to beat the Socialists, although perhaps without retaining their majority in the 350-seat Congress of Deputies.

But the disaster, which the government initially blamed on the Basque separatist group ETA, threw the election wide open. The attack was followed by emotional rallies across the country."
I just hope we dont face a similar attack here in the States. It obviously would have the opposite affects here but these Spanish give motivation to these people.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:09 PM   #5
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I just hope we dont face a similar attack here in the States.
or anywhere else.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:10 PM   #6
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You're missing the obvious though. The other party was slated to win before the bombing. Al Qada forced change on weakminded people.

Its discouraging. About the only european country with a lick of fight is the UK and even they are going fast in the wrong direction.

It's a dangerous world. The usa is really the only westernized country that isn't so afraid of bloodshed, and a large part of it are.

If we don't do the fighting who will.

There is too many evil forces in the world to turn such a blind eye.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:12 PM   #7
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You're missing the obvious though. The other party was slated to win before the bombing. Al Qada forced change on weakminded people.

Exactly my point.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:23 PM   #8
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pretty bad... this will only encourage the terrorists
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:27 PM   #9
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I just hope we dont face a similar attack here in the States. It obviously would have the opposite affects here but these Spanish give motivation to these people.
It's coming soon, remember the September 11 attacks were planned for 6-7 years, so time is ticking again sadly
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:29 PM   #10
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Of course they are. EL baaaahhhhh
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:32 PM   #11
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Terrorists will always win. They have the kamikaze advantage. We'll do all we can, but we won't strap bombs to ourselves. No matter what they do, they'll always be able to hijack a plane if they want. ALWAYS.

We would need a large scale operation with millions worth of equipment. All they need is to be crazy enough to blow themselves up to prove a point.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:33 PM   #12
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You have to wonder what country will be next since they were able to change the vote in one country with one attack.
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Old 03-14-2004, 10:34 PM   #13
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Old 03-14-2004, 10:49 PM   #14
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Very bad message to the terrorist scum.
Bomb us and we will bow down.

They lose 200 people in a terrorist attack, and then 8 millions people go in the street, not to demand that the terrorists' head roll but to deman "peace"....

It is quite obvious al qaeda does not want peace.

By the way, informed sources say that Italy is next, I wonder what the world will do when muslims slaughter a few hundreds Christians in the Vatican
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Old 03-14-2004, 11:06 PM   #15
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Very nice soundbite. Did you mention that a large portion of the population was against the government's decision to get involved in the war in the first place. So if anything, it just shows democracy finally working properly. Government makes bad decision, and democracy forces the old government out, and a new one, more in line with the peoples wishes in.

Just another view on the sitaution

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the former spanish government got just what they deserved , they didn't listen to their people saying NO to war and they got housted.

at the same time i find it suspicious that the bombings happened just before the elections
, so the real question is. Are americans sheep?
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Old 03-14-2004, 11:49 PM   #16
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the election was always predicted to be close. This just got people out to vote that normally wouldn't.
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Old 03-15-2004, 01:21 AM   #17
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Yep, the fact that they were about to vote for a party and the terror made them vote for the one that gives them comfort, is discouraging. If all nations do that, terrorists win.
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Old 03-15-2004, 01:35 AM   #18
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good spain is doing something smart.. you stupid fuckn yankees should quit listening to yoru stupid president.. who goes to war and kills how many ppl for no FUCKING reason... bush is a fucking terrorist....

Cant wait till this economic bubble bursts on you dummies....
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Old 03-15-2004, 01:39 AM   #19
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you americans are the ones that are sheeps..... no wonder why the world all hates you guys.. cuz u goto war for no reason, just to get your attention away from the bin laden 9/11 incident..
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Old 03-15-2004, 01:42 AM   #20
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You guys should quit believing CNN and what the news says, and look into the real info. if all you guys looked into the real info, youd realise how crooked you guys are...

is some iraqi life worth less then someone who died in the world trade center?
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Old 03-15-2004, 01:43 AM   #21
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Very nice soundbite. Did you mention that a large portion of the population was against the government's decision to get involved in the war in the first place. So if anything, it just shows democracy finally working properly. Government makes bad decision, and democracy forces the old government out, and a new one, more in line with the peoples wishes in.

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Old 03-15-2004, 01:46 AM   #22
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and the atom bomb.. what 70,000 lives ended....
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The attack only reminded people of the stupid war it's government supported. I hope it doesnt take an attack in Portugal for the people to remember our government supported the war against our will. The Bush sheep allies in Europe must go down
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and the atom bomb.. what 70,000 lives ended....
Wrong war buddy
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Wrong war buddy

I was waiting for the bush hater to show up.


"Yep, the fact that they were about to vote for a party and the terror made them vote for the one that gives them comfort, is discouraging. If all nations do that, terrorists win."

Exactly, but yet this moron doesnt seem to realize that. Its a shame. Well, maybe he just saw the topic and got so enraged that he didnnt get the point.
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Old 03-15-2004, 02:22 AM   #26
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I don't think so.
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90% of the people in Spain were against the war. This year 8% more people voted than in the last election and that won the election for the opposition!

The PP party who was in power got 9.6 million votes this time, compared with 10.3 in 2000, but still they lost 8% following!
Now the total votes were 24,141,911, and 8% of that are almost 2 million votes, so the fact is that all the people that didn't vote last time were obviously unhappy with the government and decided to vote against them. And in recent polls about 8% have been undecided or not answering, and now we can see were those votes went

The last government basically sucked, and not just for going against the will of the people, also Aznar just said this guy is the next presidential canidate for the PP, and no-one had anything to ay abou it, he hand picked him! How democratic is that?

And also an issue close to me, 256/kb ADSL by law can cost no less than 38 euros!!!! That is done for the sole reason to make Telefonica a big worldwide company. Is that not hindering fair competition?

There were a lot of reason to get the PP out of power, not just the small fact that they went completely against the will of the people
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Yep, total and complete sheep. As mentioned above, the governing party was solidly ahead in all polls. Suddenly they drop like flies after the bombings. The voting population danced like puppets on a string and only set themselves up for more bloody manipulation down the road ... baaaaaAAAAH !

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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040315/D81AHBR80.html
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the whole world should be proud on spanish people for this action........it shows that this country is ruled by people that use their brains.....a country should be ruled by the people of the country and not by 20 idiots in a government.

The US People should start to do the same...to check that they rule the country and not a bush snail brain.....and not TV and not Hollywood....

If the US People dont realise this NOW,they are lost and tomorrow they would also follow Mr Spock.
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The same sheep in America who support Bush because they got scared after 9/11 are telling the Spanish they shouldn't let the terrorist attack over there influence their vote.

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The same sheep in America who support Bush because they got scared after 9/11 are telling the Spanish they shouldn't let the terrorist attack over there influence their vote.


ummmm Bush got elected before 911.
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Yep, total and complete sheep. As mentioned above, the governing party was solidly ahead in all polls. Suddenly they drop like flies after the bombings. The voting population danced like puppets on a string and only set themselves up for more bloody manipulation down the road ... baaaaaAAAAH !

includes polling data
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040315/D81AHBR80.html
This article doensn't show accurate polling information!
It sais nothing about undecided and those not answering.
Besides the accuracy of polls are +/- 4%
That means it could go 8% either way, which it did
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