Spam me: Billing processors not dealing with Visa&Mastercard (checks, phone,...) - GoFuckYourself.com

PrettyCarla · 03-13-2004, 03:19 PM

After experience with ibill, lancelot, globill, globosale and verotel we decided to add different payment options with processors which dont support Visa and Mastercard. Please, help me to find check, phone and other billings. Referal links welcomed and will be followed if we sign with them. We need

- company being in the bussiness for some time and paying to merchants
- not processing Visa and Mastercards
- able to coexist with other member billing solutions upon same member area
- no restrictions on legal 18+ adult content (bdsm and other legal fetishes must be acceptable)

Thanks for any possible idea.

sperbonzo · 03-13-2004, 03:23 PM

You may also want to look at Duocash as an addiltional way to process transactions along with your credit card processor.

We enable pre-paid phone cards to be used, which means that we have nothing to do with VISA/MC and we are NOT subject to the credit card association regulations.

We are not looking to be a replacement for credit cards, but rather an anonymous, additional method to get customers who might otherwise not want, or be able, to give CC# to adult sites.
Our system also works very well for micropayments as there is no per transaction fee of 15 to 50 cents like CC transactions.

Perhaps you may want to take a look at Duocash

http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp

We are putting together some VERY large deals that will be implemented in the next 60 days or so that will put us all over the US and Canada, and we are in discussions to expand to Australia and the EU.

We are not in the business of selling phone cards. The problem with earlier business models has been distribution of proprietary cards. The retailers won?t stock the cards if the customers aren?t asking for them. The consumers aren?t aware of the cards if they aren?t on retailers shelves. It?s a chicken and egg type of issue.

In our case, we have done something different. We are taking a product that is ALREADY on the shelves, in distribution online, and in call centers. We are enabling the existing phone cards that are already on the market and being distributed, to be used by consumers to purchase digital content on the internet. This also avoids the issue of a single-use card that won?t be carried by retailers and distributors because of perception problems associated with a card that is specific to adult, gaming, etc?

You can contact me on my mobile or my email at any time for any questions you might have

sperbonzo · 03-13-2004, 03:24 PM

You may also want to look at Duocash as an addiltional way to process transactions along with your credit card processor.

We enable pre-paid phone cards to be used, which means that we have nothing to do with VISA/MC and we are NOT subject to the credit card association regulations.

We are not looking to be a replacement for credit cards, but rather an anonymous, additional method to get customers who might otherwise not want, or be able, to give CC# to adult sites.
Our system also works very well for micropayments as there is no per transaction fee of 15 to 50 cents like CC transactions.

Perhaps you may want to take a look at Duocash

http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp

We are not in the business of selling phone cards. The problem with earlier business models has been distribution of proprietary cards. The retailers won?t stock the cards if the customers aren?t asking for them. The consumers aren?t aware of the cards if they aren?t on retailers shelves. It?s a chicken and egg type of issue.

In our case, we have done something different. We are taking a product that is ALREADY on the shelves, in distribution online, and in call centers. We are enabling the existing phone cards that are already on the market and being distributed, to be used by consumers to purchase digital content on the internet. This also avoids the issue of a single-use card that won?t be carried by retailers and distributors because of perception problems associated with a card that is specific to adult, gaming, etc?

We are putting together some VERY large deals that will be implemented in the next 60 days or so that will put us all over the US and Canada, and we are in discussions to expand to Australia and the EU.

You can contact me on my mobile or my email at any time for any questions you might have

PrettyCarla · 03-13-2004, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
You may also want to look at Duocash as an addiltional way to process transactions along with your credit card processor.

We enable pre-paid phone cards to be used, which means that we have nothing to do with VISA/MC and we are NOT subject to the credit card association regulations.

We are not looking to be a replacement for credit cards, but rather an anonymous, additional method to get customers who might otherwise not want, or be able, to give CC# to adult sites.
Our system also works very well for micropayments as there is no per transaction fee of 15 to 50 cents like CC transactions.

Perhaps you may want to take a look at Duocash

http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp

We are not in the business of selling phone cards. The problem with earlier business models has been distribution of proprietary cards. The retailers won?t stock the cards if the customers aren?t asking for them. The consumers aren?t aware of the cards if they aren?t on retailers shelves. It?s a chicken and egg type of issue.

In our case, we have done something different. We are taking a product that is ALREADY on the shelves, in distribution online, and in call centers. We are enabling the existing phone cards that are already on the market and being distributed, to be used by consumers to purchase digital content on the internet. This also avoids the issue of a single-use card that won?t be carried by retailers and distributors because of perception problems associated with a card that is specific to adult, gaming, etc?

We are putting together some VERY large deals that will be implemented in the next 60 days or so that will put us all over the US and Canada, and we are in discussions to expand to Australia and the EU.

You can contact me on my mobile or my email at any time for any questions you might have

Looks interesting. I will email you during next 24 hours. We need something for US customers, in Europe there are usually dialers. Basically i would like to know how long it takes to collect payments and what are your fees for wire transfer to European bank account.

SABAI · 03-13-2004, 04:11 PM

with CCBILL you have the option not to use visa and mastercard , they have web900 online checks and dialers.

if you are outside US/CAN/AU you don't have the visa fee anyway

sperbonzo · 03-13-2004, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyCarla

Looks interesting. I will email you during next 24 hours. We need something for US customers, in Europe there are usually dialers. Basically i would like to know how long it takes to collect payments and what are your fees for wire transfer to European bank account.

The payment schedule works as follows....

transactions made from the 1st through the 14th of the month are paid on the 1st of the following month.
transactions made from the 15th through the 31st are paid on the 15th of the following month.

I'm not sure what the wire transfer fees are, but I think that they are pretty standard, I will find out for you on monday

PrettyCarla · 03-13-2004, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo

The payment schedule works as follows....

transactions made from the 1st through the 14th of the month are paid on the 1st of the following month.
transactions made from the 15th through the 31st are paid on the 15th of the following month.

I'm not sure what the wire transfer fees are, but I think that they are pretty standard, I will find out for you on monday

Wau, that's faster than many credit cards companies. Tomorrow, there is already late night here :-)

PrettyCarla · 03-13-2004, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SABAI
with CCBILL you have the option not to use visa and mastercard , they have web900 online checks and dialers.

if you are outside US/CAN/AU you don't have the visa fee anyway

I know about ccbill, but they bring whole visa&mastercard byrocracy with them and if they have troubles with visa&mastercard, whole company goes down including checks and dialers. That's the reason why i want something not related to processing main cards.

icedemon · 03-13-2004, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrettyCarla

I know about ccbill, but they bring whole visa&mastercard byrocracy with them and if they have troubles with visa&mastercard, whole company goes down including checks and dialers. That's the reason why i want something not related to processing main cards.

Their checks/900# and dialers won't nessarily go down. They might do what ProBilling did and just do away with the credit card processing and keep the rest. They might be hurting at first from no creditcard procesing income. Like you say, they could go down, because their primary income is from credit card processing. But it would not be a for sure thing of them going down.

PayWide will be opening later this month. Check processing and Telephone billing will be our primary form of processing. The only requirement it doesn't meet of yours is
company being in the bussiness for some time. I'm the owner and have been in the adult inernet business since 1996. If you need more info you can call me toll free at
1.877.PAYWIDE
or email me at
gfy AT paywide DOT com

PrettyCarla · 03-14-2004, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by icedemon

PayWide will be opening later this month. Check processing and Telephone billing will be our primary form of processing. The only requirement it doesn't meet of yours is
company being in the bussiness for some time. I'm the owner and have been in the adult inernet business since 1996. If you need more info you can call me toll free at
1.877.PAYWIDE
or email me at
gfy AT paywide DOT com

Nice idea, pity you cannot open it just in few days

But i will monitor this project.

DeadFidel · 03-14-2004, 04:18 AM

New options are coming along almost daily. Duocash, E-chips and a few other 4th party options work fine for the original purchase price, but these are the end of rebilling.
Rebilling is 40% of most AWM's income.

PrettyCarla · 03-14-2004, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeadFidel
New options are coming along almost daily. Duocash, E-chips and a few other 4th party options work fine for the original purchase price, but these are the end of rebilling.
Rebilling is 40% of most AWM's income.

It seems we have to change processors so often that most our members have to rejoin too

03-13-2004, 03:19 PM	#1
PrettyCarla Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 144	Spam me: Billing processors not dealing with Visa&Mastercard (checks, phone,...) After experience with ibill, lancelot, globill, globosale and verotel we decided to add different payment options with processors which dont support Visa and Mastercard. Please, help me to find check, phone and other billings. Referal links welcomed and will be followed if we sign with them. We need - company being in the bussiness for some time and paying to merchants - not processing Visa and Mastercards - able to coexist with other member billing solutions upon same member area - no restrictions on legal 18+ adult content (bdsm and other legal fetishes must be acceptable) Thanks for any possible idea.

03-13-2004, 03:23 PM	#2
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	You may also want to look at Duocash as an addiltional way to process transactions along with your credit card processor. We enable pre-paid phone cards to be used, which means that we have nothing to do with VISA/MC and we are NOT subject to the credit card association regulations. We are not looking to be a replacement for credit cards, but rather an anonymous, additional method to get customers who might otherwise not want, or be able, to give CC# to adult sites. Our system also works very well for micropayments as there is no per transaction fee of 15 to 50 cents like CC transactions. Perhaps you may want to take a look at Duocash http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp We are putting together some VERY large deals that will be implemented in the next 60 days or so that will put us all over the US and Canada, and we are in discussions to expand to Australia and the EU. We are not in the business of selling phone cards. The problem with earlier business models has been distribution of proprietary cards. The retailers won?t stock the cards if the customers aren?t asking for them. The consumers aren?t aware of the cards if they aren?t on retailers shelves. It?s a chicken and egg type of issue. In our case, we have done something different. We are taking a product that is ALREADY on the shelves, in distribution online, and in call centers. We are enabling the existing phone cards that are already on the market and being distributed, to be used by consumers to purchase digital content on the internet. This also avoids the issue of a single-use card that won?t be carried by retailers and distributors because of perception problems associated with a card that is specific to adult, gaming, etc? You can contact me on my mobile or my email at any time for any questions you might have __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

03-13-2004, 03:24 PM	#3
sperbonzo I'd rather be on my boat. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 9,748	You may also want to look at Duocash as an addiltional way to process transactions along with your credit card processor. We enable pre-paid phone cards to be used, which means that we have nothing to do with VISA/MC and we are NOT subject to the credit card association regulations. We are not looking to be a replacement for credit cards, but rather an anonymous, additional method to get customers who might otherwise not want, or be able, to give CC# to adult sites. Our system also works very well for micropayments as there is no per transaction fee of 15 to 50 cents like CC transactions. Perhaps you may want to take a look at Duocash http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp We are not in the business of selling phone cards. The problem with earlier business models has been distribution of proprietary cards. The retailers won?t stock the cards if the customers aren?t asking for them. The consumers aren?t aware of the cards if they aren?t on retailers shelves. It?s a chicken and egg type of issue. In our case, we have done something different. We are taking a product that is ALREADY on the shelves, in distribution online, and in call centers. We are enabling the existing phone cards that are already on the market and being distributed, to be used by consumers to purchase digital content on the internet. This also avoids the issue of a single-use card that won?t be carried by retailers and distributors because of perception problems associated with a card that is specific to adult, gaming, etc? We are putting together some VERY large deals that will be implemented in the next 60 days or so that will put us all over the US and Canada, and we are in discussions to expand to Australia and the EU. You can contact me on my mobile or my email at any time for any questions you might have __________________ Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/ ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

03-13-2004, 04:11 PM	#5
SABAI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: footmaniac.com Posts: 2,880	with CCBILL you have the option not to use visa and mastercard , they have web900 online checks and dialers. if you are outside US/CAN/AU you don't have the visa fee anyway __________________

03-14-2004, 04:18 AM	#11
DeadFidel Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: This was my wife circa 2002 Posts: 6,760	New options are coming along almost daily. Duocash, E-chips and a few other 4th party options work fine for the original purchase price, but these are the end of rebilling. Rebilling is 40% of most AWM's income.