Two great tastes that taste great together, avs/tgp.

[-=HOAX=-]

An article I wrote a few years ago...I think its still applicable.



Seems that nowadays there is a lot of people flocking to many of the hot topics in the adult world. To the veteran, TGP and AVS sites are old news. But recently there has been a tremendous surge of people flocking to both.

TGP's can be a great way to get some base traffic going on free content. They are fun and exciting, at the start, and a few days of hard work can see immediate returns in the way of traffic. Adding a touch of personality, some personal anecdotes, and some small personalized features can keep surfers coming back and get you a loyal following of bookmarker's. The downside of being a TGP owner is the fact that the time and effort required can soon become tedious and stale. Compound that with notoriously low conversion rates, and you'll find yourself moving on to something else, as your TGP rots away listlessly giving away free porn to the 5,000 or so unique visitors a day.

AVS sites, you too can see direct sales to a pseudo paysite all your own! There are many different strategies and to some it can be a bit boggling with all its options, rules, and choices. Many a webmaster has painstaking toiled over a tour and members area...lovingly arranged the content, and begun the arduous task of pumping traffic to your new baby. Here is the point where many webmasters can see there time spent in preparation dwindle away to a waste, many avs services can fail to produce the traffic numbers one had hoped for. And unless you have pre-existing traffic or a plethora of avs sites, gateways, and portals, chances are you've got yet another only mildly successful site on your hands.

Between the market saturation in both areas, and the increasingly high number of webmasters exploiting both these areas many in our industry are falling short of their goals and not making the money the might have expected. Sitting discouraged at the keyboard wracking your brain for an answer can be a common predicament.

Well here is a possible answer to those webmaster blues. Take that tgp from its darkened corner of cyberspace and breathe some fresh life into it...reestablish those forgotten link trades, get those submissions flowing again, insert some new humor and news...then take those members areas that never saw much light and toss it on your TGP as a "Member's Area". Put a Full Page Ad in front of the daily listings and talk up the member's options...I blamed the gov't personally, "Due to the stricter laws governing the world of porn, I'm no longer willing to risk jail time in order to bring you free hardcore porn...But by verifying your age with this Age verification System, you'll gain access to blah blah blah"

For me combining the traffic of a tgp and the easy sell of an AVS seemed a natural choice. Not only will you be contributing to stemming the tide of free porn on the net, you be cleaning up your traffic. You'll see as you member's grow opportunities to upsell them on different programs...chat upgrades, paysite trials, or even with the AVS system you currently promote. I am amazed as to the fact that a productive practice like this is rarely if ever employed by tgp owners. Think of the huge archives so many are amassing that make them only mild returns. Think of the pre-qualified traffic trading that could be achieved between two similarly setup TGP's. There are really too many new options and ideas in this area to list them all, not to mention the fact that many of those Ideas could be coming from YOU!

In closing I'd just like to say that this is NOT a new idea...though I may fool myself into thinking I came up with it...I didn't. But I think you be hard pressed to find another webmasters who's employed the strategy to the degree and effectiveness that I have. My name is HOAX and I run http://www.tomkat.com . For a glimpse at how I have done the things I just discussed, head on over there and check it out! I'm currently looking for more webmaster's who've done something similar to trade secrets and traffic with. Heck, I'm looking for people with the motivation and desire to make MORE money with their TGP/AVS traffic. I'm more than willing to teach and help anyone interested...

So contact me and ask me some questions, tell a friend about this article! Tell the wonderful people at AdultToolKit.com that you'd like to see more articles from HOAX.

Or sit there and do nothing...and while your at it pick up the help wanted section of your local paper, you're gonna need it.

[stev0]

only problem with AVS these days is you can't sell it that way (as Age verification)... Most AVS systems anyways. And the ones that do allow it won't be around for long im guessing.

[-=HOAX=-]

I've been out of the avs game for a while...but I bet it could be adapted.


Maybe I'll research it and write an updated article...help you fuckers make some cream.

[DTK]

Hey, what's with all this "posting useful information" shit you've been pulling recently?!

[-=HOAX=-]

I'm trying to singlehandedly change this place into a cordial, valuable resource for the budding webmaster.

[Buddy]

Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
I'm trying to singlehandedly change this place into a cordial, valuable resource for the budding webmaster.

YEAH FUCKERS!!! SO SHUT UP AND READ THE FUCKING THING!!!!!!

[baddog]

Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
I'm trying to singlehandedly change this place into a cordial, valuable resource for the budding webmaster.

good luck

I would not worry about the age verification issue that much. The primary difference now is that in order to be successful one should not depend on the AVS to provide you with your traffic.

The people that make bank are the ones that promote their sites (TGP is good for this) the same as they would promote a paysite.

[WiredGuy]

Nobody ever reads the really good threads. This deserves a bump.

WG

[slackologist]

yep. good post. This is the direction a lot of us should be headed with our tgp stuff. age verification is a tricky thing nowadays though.

[69pornlinks]

this been buried for 5 hours , oh i forget everybody here is already 'elite'

[Ash@phpFX]

great idea, and great post. ill definately look into this furthur, and probably hit you up some time in the next few days

[SomeCreep]

Hoax, whats your email/ICQ?

[Kamilla36D]

Originally posted by stev0
only problem with AVS these days is you can't sell it that way (as Age verification)... Most AVS systems anyways. And the ones that do allow it won't be around for long im guessing.

and I didn't think you were allowed to link to content outside the avs protected area...

[Steve]

AVS used to rock becuase they were a safer sale, normally a modest one time fee to the surfer. Then, you could go on and upsell the surfers from the members area.

Shit, these days, many of the AVS programs wont allow upsells. It is a lot different. I'm going to try a few old tricks, and see how they do today, though.

[Za Ha]

Hoax hit me up.
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