Why do some paysites use plug-ins? - GoFuckYourself.com

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 12:57 PM

I have been in the members areas of hundreds of paysites, and a lot of the big companies members area are mostly plug-ins. You see the same ones at multiple sites, and they usually load slow and the movies are crap for the most part.

What's the point of putting these in your members area when you can grab a few content blowouts and build a members area with 200-300 gigs of content that would beat the hell out of any feed and cost you a lot less in the long run?

Juicy D. Links · 03-12-2004, 12:58 PM

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baddog · 03-12-2004, 01:02 PM

probably because static pics are not enough to retain members these days

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Rictor I am one sexy stud

Okay, plug-ins make sense now. Thank you for the well thought out reply to my question.

DraX · 03-12-2004, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor
I have been in the members areas of hundreds of paysites, and a lot of the big companies members area are mostly plug-ins. You see the same ones at multiple sites, and they usually load slow and the movies are crap for the most part.

What's the point of putting these in your members area when you can grab a few content blowouts and build a members area with 200-300 gigs of content that would beat the hell out of any feed and cost you a lot less in the long run?

U tell me?? lol

I have been thinking about the same as you

But those sites doesnt sell as good as they were before, there is a big change in sites members area coming.

They are forced to change to be able to compete with the new standards the surfers almost demand

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
probably because static pics are not enough to retain members these days

Who said anything about static pics? Amacontent was blowing out 500 high quality hardcore videos the other day for the cost of about 1 year of feeds for one paysite. You could build 20 paysites with that content.

jmk · 03-12-2004, 01:05 PM

Plugins help with retention
The big sites need lots of content ... not just 10 movies

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by jmk
Plugins help with retention
The big sites need lots of content ... not just 10 movies

Umm...yah. A guy that sells plug-ins for a living is a nice unbiased opinion.

baddog · 03-12-2004, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

Who said anything about static pics? Amacontent was blowing out 500 high quality hardcore videos the other day for the cost of about 1 year of feeds for one paysite. You could build 20 paysites with that content.

I did not see what Joe was offering, but perhaps because it is easier to make smaller monthly payments, than one large payment?

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by jmk
Plugins help with retention
The big sites need lots of content ... not just 10 movies

By the way, for the same price as 2 months of your most expensive package, I could get about 200 hours of quality video and own it forever.

angelsofporn · 03-12-2004, 01:16 PM

i use plugins in addition to our own content just to give the members some variety and it also takes a little load off the servers...i only use good plugins though..thre is alot of crap out there

jmk · 03-12-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

Umm...yah. A guy that sells plug-ins for a living is a nice unbiased opinion.

Well first I was on the other side! Doh!
And I keep close contact to my customers so that I know what they are looking for.

But sorry for posting ... I didn't know I wasn't allowed

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by baddog

I did not see what Joe was offering, but perhaps because it is easier to make smaller monthly payments, than one large payment?

Sure, but it's not rent to own. You're just throwing your money away.

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by angelsofporn
i use plugins in addition to our own content just to give the members some variety and it also takes a little load off the servers...i only use good plugins though..thre is alot of crap out there

I suppose if you saved more in bandwidth than what you paid for the feeds, it might be worth it.

Reak · 03-12-2004, 01:18 PM

We use a couple of Movies Plugins at our sites, Why ? Because Adult DVD's are exspensive to buy and members love them cuz of the highquality.

jmk · 03-12-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

By the way, for the same price as 2 months of your most expensive package, I could get about 200 hours of quality video and own it forever.

True
Does it include hosting prices
making the feeds look nice
streaming the content
making it available in 3 sizes
and for download
...

baddog · 03-12-2004, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

Sure, but it's not rent to own. You're just throwing your money away.

again, some people can not afford a $6,000 purchase as easy as they can afford a $600/month expenditure. Same thing as why people rent homes instead of just buying them.

Besides, it really isn't throwing your money away, it is tax deductible.

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by jmk

True
Does it include hosting prices
making the feeds look nice
streaming the content
making it available in 3 sizes
and for download
...

Bandwidth is so cheap, who gives a fuck? And as for building the members area, first of all, I want all movies branded with my url for the free advertising. You can hire 3rd world lackeys for 10 cents an hour to do this.

Doctor Dre · 03-12-2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
probably because static pics are not enough to retain members these days

In some blowouts you have like 40-50 hours of video ... enough to retain any member for a while :P

Doctor Dre · 03-12-2004, 01:22 PM

It's weird cauz all the videos / pics are from the 70-80 in those videos ... long haired mans looking like bums fucking ugly girls with no style.

Doctor Dre · 03-12-2004, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by jmk
Plugins help with retention
The big sites need lots of content ... not just 10 movies

Hey oh ... TGPS have better quality movies than plug ins ...

Reak · 03-12-2004, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
It's weird cauz all the videos / pics are from the 70-80 in those videos ... long haired mans looking like bums fucking ugly girls with no style.

Then buy quality content at www.focusadult.com

Serious, these guys do great work

Doctor Dre · 03-12-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

By the way, for the same price as 2 months of your most expensive package, I could get about 200 hours of quality video and own it forever.

That's just a kick in the face . Plug ings provider just lost thousands with that thread !

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by baddog

again, some people can not afford a $6,000 purchase as easy as they can afford a $600/month expenditure. Same thing as why people rent homes instead of just buying them.

Besides, it really isn't throwing your money away, it is tax deductible.

Unless your content site sells feeds, you're trying awful hard to talk people into something that doesn't benefit you. Heh.

Doctor Dre · 03-12-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Reak
We use a couple of Movies Plugins at our sites, Why ? Because Adult DVD's are exspensive to buy and members love them cuz of the highquality.

I've never seen a plug in that I'd jerk on ...

Doctor Dre · 03-12-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

Bandwidth is so cheap, who gives a fuck? And as for building the members area, first of all, I want all movies branded with my url for the free advertising. You can hire 3rd world lackeys for 10 cents an hour to do this.

Wich content compagny allows you to do that on non-exclusive content ?

Reak · 03-12-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre

I've never seen a plug in that I'd jerk on ...

Your not a surfer... surfers jerk off on everything they see.

Anyway, i agree with bought content is much better then leased content.

But having them both kicks ass

jmk · 03-12-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre

That's just a kick in the face . Plug ings provider just lost thousands with that thread !

Shit I just lost 300 customers

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre

Wich content compagny allows you to do that on non-exclusive content ?

Any of them pretty much. Most licenses allow for you to watermark the pictures and video with the url of your site as long as you don't try to claim copyright.

This way when members download this stuff, they remember where they got it.

jmk · 03-12-2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by Reak

Your not a surfer... surfers jerk off on everything they see.

Anyway, i agree with bought content is much better then leased content.

But having them both kicks ass

agree
Seacrest out!

baddog · 03-12-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

Unless your content site sells feeds, you're trying awful hard to talk people into something that doesn't benefit you. Heh.

ContentShopper does not sell anything. It is a searchable database of content providers. Our providers sell feeds, movies, static pics, DVD's, stories.

You name it, they provide it.

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by jmk

Shit I just lost 300 customers

Hey, you might. This thread is newbie education.

Rictor · 03-12-2004, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by baddog

ContentShopper does not sell anything. It is a searchable database of content providers. Our providers sell feeds, movies, static pics, DVD's, stories.

You name it, they provide it.

Ahhh...so you are defending your bread and butter. Gotcha.

Theo · 03-12-2004, 01:41 PM

http://www.itsyourporn.com outperforms any paysite plugin.

Having seen many of the members areas.... this plugin alone most probably is better than your average paysite

baddog · 03-12-2004, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Rictor

Ahhh...so you are defending your bread and butter. Gotcha.

my bread and butter includes providers that sell movies, and sell plugins . . . so it does not really benefit me to take one position or the other. There is a need for both, just like there are dedicated servers, virtual servers, shared servers. Just like there are gallery templates, and high end designers. Just like people lease cars as opposed to buying them.

It all depends on what one can afford.

BigPinPin · 03-12-2004, 01:57 PM

I hate this plugin shit and lots of users do the same

Doctor Dre · 03-12-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
http://www.itsyourporn.com outperforms any paysite plugin.

Having seen many of the members areas.... this plugin alone most probably is better than your average paysite

Magnatique always comes up with something good :P

baddog · 03-12-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by BigPinPin
I hate this plugin shit and lots of users do the same

you ever have surfers that say they would have joined your paysite but decided not to because you had too many plugins?

SykkBoy · 03-12-2004, 02:40 PM

We've pretty much gotten rid of all leased feeds (never had that many to begin with) and our retetnion numbers really aren't noticeably different...

we've tried to keep high quality downloadable mpegs and pics and most of our members are happy with that...what members tend to hate is being told the site is a certain niche and only precious little of the content of that niche and the rest being nothing more than plugins...

reak, I agree, focusadult fucking rocks! we are proud to have their content in our members areas. It's not always the number of pics and videos you have as much as the quality (at least from the feedback we've seen and we do our own inhouse customer service, so have a pretty good idea what makes members happy and what doesn't)

My personal issue with plugins tend to be the lack of updates. I've seen some feed packages that are carrying the same exact content they were over a year ago with no additions that I could spot.

Theo · 03-12-2004, 02:55 PM

true dre

SykkBoy2 ,magnatique's plugin is fully downloadable in various formats and analysis

if you want send me a message (142032164) and ill give you my pass to take a look at it.

03-12-2004, 12:57 PM	#1
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Why do some paysites use plug-ins? I have been in the members areas of hundreds of paysites, and a lot of the big companies members area are mostly plug-ins. You see the same ones at multiple sites, and they usually load slow and the movies are crap for the most part. What's the point of putting these in your members area when you can grab a few content blowouts and build a members area with 200-300 gigs of content that would beat the hell out of any feed and cost you a lot less in the long run?

03-12-2004, 02:40 PM	#39
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	We've pretty much gotten rid of all leased feeds (never had that many to begin with) and our retetnion numbers really aren't noticeably different... we've tried to keep high quality downloadable mpegs and pics and most of our members are happy with that...what members tend to hate is being told the site is a certain niche and only precious little of the content of that niche and the rest being nothing more than plugins... reak, I agree, focusadult fucking rocks! we are proud to have their content in our members areas. It's not always the number of pics and videos you have as much as the quality (at least from the feedback we've seen and we do our own inhouse customer service, so have a pretty good idea what makes members happy and what doesn't) My personal issue with plugins tend to be the lack of updates. I've seen some feed packages that are carrying the same exact content they were over a year ago with no additions that I could spot. __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

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Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Rictor I am one sexy stud

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	probably because static pics are not enough to retain members these days

03-12-2004, 01:05 PM	#7
jmk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,391	Plugins help with retention The big sites need lots of content ... not just 10 movies

03-12-2004, 01:16 PM	#11
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	i use plugins in addition to our own content just to give the members some variety and it also takes a little load off the servers...i only use good plugins though..thre is alot of crap out there

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Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	We use a couple of Movies Plugins at our sites, Why ? Because Adult DVD's are exspensive to buy and members love them cuz of the highquality.

03-12-2004, 01:41 PM	#34
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	http://www.itsyourporn.com outperforms any paysite plugin. Having seen many of the members areas.... this plugin alone most probably is better than your average paysite

03-12-2004, 01:57 PM	#36
BigPinPin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 894	I hate this plugin shit and lots of users do the same

03-12-2004, 02:55 PM	#40
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	true dre SykkBoy2 ,magnatique's plugin is fully downloadable in various formats and analysis if you want send me a message (142032164) and ill give you my pass to take a look at it.