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Old 03-12-2004, 07:01 AM   #1
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about the hun

do you know why he is #1?

because he doesnt fucking jerk his surfers around, when you go there you know your going to get good shit and not fucked around.

i was just looking at some tgps, and holy fuckin shit, how do they make money? they dont even send traffic to galleries, half the time you click you just go to another fucking tgp.

whoopdy fucking do dah, you have 100k+ hits to your shitty fucking tgp, it only happens because you own 10 and just cirlce jerk them all together.

you tgp'ers bitch about sponsors fucking with people, and thier ethics for this and that, well your fucking with the surfer just as much.

oh and we wont get into the popup thing, good think i have a popup blocker, it plays a sound everytime it blocks, damn, sounded like a fucking band was marching up the street.

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Old 03-12-2004, 07:05 AM   #2
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Ahh I was always wondering why he had the biggest freesite. And now you tell me his secret. Thanks!
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:08 AM   #3
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:09 AM   #4
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Ahh I was always wondering why he had the biggest freesite. And now you tell me his secret. Thanks!
That made me laugh, good one justsexxx
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:12 AM   #5
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Blind trading is a mixed issue subject .. most people that are merely 'surfers' I talk to say they don't really care if they're sent to another TGP .. it's just more free porn.

It only seems to be webmasters and techies I find who really get pissed about blind trading. They always want to denounce the productivity of blind links claiming it pisses off surfers etc. I don't find productivity on a thumb tgp skimming 50% is bad at all unless they're using some crappy asian feeder traffic or something.

Look at sites like bunnyteens.com and teeniesxxx.com. They skim a lot of their traffic to trades and they rank in the top 2-3k in alexa.

Then look at other sites like the hun .. like pinkworld.com and lumberjack-links.com .. they rank with bunnyteens and teeniesxxx ..

It has nothing to do with blind trading .. the hun has just been around for ages when it was a hell of a lot easier to get quality SE traffic and he has built up gradually over the years. And once you're pretty big it's not hard to get bigger.. he has the cash for advertising and look at all the FREE fucking advertising he gets! lol
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:19 AM   #6
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That made me laugh, good one justsexxx


BTW are you aware that your site has some errors(the one in your profile)?

BTW hit me up on icq and let's discuss some biz

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Old 03-12-2004, 07:26 AM   #7
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Blind trading is a mixed issue subject .. most people that are merely 'surfers' I talk to say they don't really care if they're sent to another TGP .. it's just more free porn.

It only seems to be webmasters and techies I find who really get pissed about blind trading. They always want to denounce the productivity of blind links claiming it pisses off surfers etc. I don't find productivity on a thumb tgp skimming 50% is bad at all unless they're using some crappy asian feeder traffic or something.

Look at sites like bunnyteens.com and teeniesxxx.com. They skim a lot of their traffic to trades and they rank in the top 2-3k in alexa.

Then look at other sites like the hun .. like pinkworld.com and lumberjack-links.com .. they rank with bunnyteens and teeniesxxx ..

It has nothing to do with blind trading .. the hun has just been around for ages when it was a hell of a lot easier to get quality SE traffic and he has built up gradually over the years. And once you're pretty big it's not hard to get bigger.. he has the cash for advertising and look at all the FREE fucking advertising he gets! lol


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Old 03-12-2004, 07:35 AM   #8
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You think the HUN advertises his site
He doesn't have to now.. but I'm sure he did at one point. .. read my last sentence .. lol
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:38 AM   #9
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He doesn't have to now.. but I'm sure he did at one point. .. read my last sentence .. lol
Never did as far as I know
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:39 AM   #10
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Just got another gallery accepted there today, cant wait to see how many sales this one gets.
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:41 AM   #11
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Just got another gallery accepted there today, cant wait to see how many sales this one gets.
Just wait a couple of days
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:43 AM   #12
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Just wait a couple of days

I usually go up 3 days after getting accepted, I have managed to get listed same day 2 times but those seem to be few and far between. I like his traffic, but just like with any site its hit and miss, if you dont show the surfers what they want they arent gonna buy no matter how good the traffic is.
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:45 AM   #13
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You're not subitting more than every 3-4 days aren't you?
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:45 AM   #14
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I usually go up 3 days after getting accepted, I have managed to get listed same day 2 times but those seem to be few and far between. I like his traffic, but just like with any site its hit and miss, if you dont show the surfers what they want they arent gonna buy no matter how good the traffic is.
I got my first gallery accepted this week.. was listed the day after I got the e-mail.
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:46 AM   #15
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Old 03-12-2004, 07:48 AM   #16
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yeah the only TGPs that i like as a surfer are Al4a and thehuns
the other's just screw around with me with those damn CJ's and that pisses me off so much
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Old 03-12-2004, 08:21 AM   #17
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Ahh I was always wondering why he had the biggest freesite. And now you tell me his secret. Thanks!
Thanks for making me laugh! I was going to say the same thing
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Old 03-12-2004, 08:24 AM   #18
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Old 03-12-2004, 08:28 AM   #19
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Never did as far as I know
Hey can u check the emails from me? its dan @ repondre.net
it was concerning a gallery being listed now.
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Old 03-12-2004, 08:30 AM   #20
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TheHun is master of the TGP world. None can compare to him.
So true - many try to imitate but none can compare + anyone that's even close to his amount of traffic does it by trading. That's not the same as having the entire cake and distributing it as you please :-)

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Old 03-12-2004, 08:41 AM   #21
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the hun is around for ages..people know it from waayyback

that..and a zillion galleries placing recip buttons helps your traffic a bit also
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Old 03-12-2004, 12:54 PM   #22
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Hey can u check the emails from me? its dan @ repondre.net
it was concerning a gallery being listed now.
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Old 03-12-2004, 01:28 PM   #23
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the Hun never advertised...his site has always looked like it does now, and it's always been popup and bullshit free. Pl.us Patrick is an awesome guy.
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Old 03-12-2004, 01:29 PM   #24
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do you know why he is #1?

because he doesnt fucking jerk his surfers around, when you go there you know your going to get good shit and not fucked around.

i was just looking at some tgps, and holy fuckin shit, how do they make money? they dont even send traffic to galleries, half the time you click you just go to another fucking tgp.

whoopdy fucking do dah, you have 100k+ hits to your shitty fucking tgp, it only happens because you own 10 and just cirlce jerk them all together.

you tgp'ers bitch about sponsors fucking with people, and thier ethics for this and that, well your fucking with the surfer just as much.

oh and we wont get into the popup thing, good think i have a popup blocker, it plays a sound everytime it blocks, damn, sounded like a fucking band was marching up the street.

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no, you know why he's number 1?
because he was one of the first to start with this...and his site spread mouth to ear. peope have bookmarked his site and kept coming back ever since
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You have people like TheHun to thank for

$25 dollar payouts instead of $35
Sponsors shaving to afford $35
Sponsors using consols and email collectors to afford $35
1/1000 conversions instead of 1/100

Theres a good reason most TGP's are circlejerks. The money is in trading deadbeats for traffic, not keeping them. The only good thing about TheHun is webmasters who copy his business model usually go broke.

Just ask some of the big circlejerk webmasters. I'll bet lots of them started with a really nice TGP. They switched to circlejerks because they got fedup with not making money.

Something new webmasters just dont seem to be able to get through their heads is you dont make anything from surfers clicking on your movies or pics, you only make money when they click your ads.

So go ahaed and and make a nice clean TGP, and by all means dont clutter it up with annoying adds. the sooner you go broke, the better for the rest of us.
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You have people like TheHun to thank for

$25 dollar payouts instead of $35
Sponsors shaving to afford $35
Sponsors using consols and email collectors to afford $35
1/1000 conversions instead of 1/100

Theres a good reason most TGP's are circlejerks. The money is in trading deadbeats for traffic, not keeping them. The only good thing about TheHun is webmasters who copy his business model usually go broke.

Just ask some of the big circlejerk webmasters. I'll bet lots of them started with a really nice TGP. They switched to circlejerks because they got fedup with not making money.

Something new webmasters just dont seem to be able to get through their heads is you dont make anything from surfers clicking on your movies or pics, you only make money when they click your ads.

So go ahaed and and make a nice clean TGP, and by all means dont clutter it up with annoying adds. the sooner you go broke, the better for the rest of us.
whats your point?? Others just fucked up ??
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Old 03-13-2004, 03:03 AM   #28
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You're not subitting more than every 3-4 days aren't you?

No it was missunderstood what I ment. 2 times on different occasions I have submitted a gallery and then a few hours later recieved an email saying it was accepted. I only submit every 3-4 days although today I recieved a letter saying I had been submitting more than that but escorpio uses my wickedwebmasters domain to submit galleries. Im not sure how that can be seen as wrong because it would be just like 2 people in seperate states sharing a server.
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Hey I sent an email because I wanna make sure this gets cleared up.
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You have people like TheHun to thank for

$25 dollar payouts instead of $35
Sponsors shaving to afford $35
Sponsors using consols and email collectors to afford $35
1/1000 conversions instead of 1/100

Theres a good reason most TGP's are circlejerks. The money is in trading deadbeats for traffic, not keeping them. The only good thing about TheHun is webmasters who copy his business model usually go broke.

Just ask some of the big circlejerk webmasters. I'll bet lots of them started with a really nice TGP. They switched to circlejerks because they got fedup with not making money.

Something new webmasters just dont seem to be able to get through their heads is you dont make anything from surfers clicking on your movies or pics, you only make money when they click your ads.

So go ahaed and and make a nice clean TGP, and by all means dont clutter it up with annoying adds. the sooner you go broke, the better for the rest of us.

I think if you were correct, TGP2s would have taken off much better than it did - blaming TheHun for lower payouts and cheating sponsors is like blaming the son for his father's sins. If TheHun was ruining the industry - people wouldn't be killing themselves to be listed, sponsors/advertisers wouldn't be paying to get a top listing.

Unlike other sites, TheHun deals with cheaters his own way - he doesn't penalize every submitter by shutting down submissions to the general webmaster population.
The advantages for him to do that are more than having to deal with DOS attacks every few months (or whatever they do to bring his server to a halt). Doesn't have to deal with people try to cheat - michel would have less galleries to go through - basically it would simply their life and they could ask for a higher price for the top listings. They don't do that - if they would - there would be a heck of alot more 'SHAVING' and lower payouts due to higher advertising costs.

ok.....now start the bashing cuz I'm off to bed. Notte :-)
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You think the HUN advertises his site
no, he is just on TV shows every other week lol.

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I think persian kitty is a good example
on making bank. No circle jerk(what I know)
but lots of ads.
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Hey I sent an email because I wanna make sure this gets cleared up.
Me, too.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, michel.
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