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  • CCFool
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    • Sep 2003
    • 103

    #1

    Brian Shuster now enforcing patent on Sub Domains

    Here is the letter they are mailing to Web Hosting companies.

    http://161.58.167.50/letter.jpg

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...&RS=PN/6687746
  • LiveDose
    Show Yer Tits!
    • Feb 2002
    • 25792

    #2
    Hopefully someone kills this fuck.























    No really.

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    • CCFool
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2003
      • 103

      #3
      I wonder which of the larger adult hosting companies will be the first to pay the fee?

      NatNet?
      Webair?
      CaveCreek?
      ?

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      • DaLord
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        • Aug 2001
        • 3318

        #4
        I'm gonna see if I can get a patent on my on/off switch on my PC

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        • LiveDose
          Show Yer Tits!
          • Feb 2002
          • 25792

          #5
          Originally posted by DaLord
          I'm gonna see if I can get a patent on my on/off switch on my PC


          I already have that one. PAY UP!

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          • Wilbo
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2001
            • 2082

            #6
            This patent thing is getting waaaayyyy outta hand. Subdomains are just a configuration in your server, like adjusting your nuts...........I'm gonna patent adjusting your nuts and be rich. Don't let me or my spys catch you touching them for the purpose of comfort.

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            • Wilbo
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              • Feb 2001
              • 2082

              #7
              Wasn't this Brian Shuster a partner in the old XPics.com?

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              • CCFool
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                • Sep 2003
                • 103

                #8
                Originally posted by Wilbo
                Wasn't this Brian Shuster a partner in the old XPics.com?
                Yes

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                • OzKaNoz
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                  • Jan 2001
                  • 1834

                  #9
                  You got to be kidding!
                  Acada or whatever it is and now this.


                  Oz
                  Techie Media Web Hosting

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                  • DaLord
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                    • Aug 2001
                    • 3318

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LiveDose




                    I already have that one. PAY UP!
                    Oh bugger... you take paypal?


                    My next patent will most likely be based on overweight.
                    If your webmaster ass is too big you will have to pay. Only UCJ Tim will get by this one.

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                    • pradaboy
                      sell me your banners
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 12931

                      #11
                      the Acacia virus is spreading... poor saps trying to get rich the easy way... I'm calling a patent on sluts
                      Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
                      FREE to register domains...
                      Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

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                      • tgpmakers
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 575

                        #12
                        haha i bet the hosting companies have a heart attack
                        http://www.tgpmakers.com/

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                        • ytcracker
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                          • Dec 2002
                          • 12403

                          #13
                          god thats gay
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                          • sexsup
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                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3004

                            #14
                            Fucking Around & Program Discussion > Brian Shuster now enforcing patent on Sub Domains
                            Is it a joke or what?

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                            • arg
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1164

                              #15
                              Wow, what a stupid patent! I mean if it had been filed in 1980, maybe it would have a chance, but it was filed in 1999. There doesn't seem to be anything remotely new in the patent.

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                              • goBigtime
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                                • Nov 2002
                                • 7761

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pradaboy
                                the Acacia virus is spreading...
                                Far more than we all know.... it's going to get really bad.

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                                • hova
                                  Traffillionaire
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 22430

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pradaboy
                                  I'm calling a patent on sluts
                                  That patent is mine, nobody can use the word sluts anymore unless I aprove it first
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                                  Sign up and get lifetime revshare on your traffic

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                                  • tony299
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                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 57021

                                    #18
                                    Thank Larry he started the downward spiral. Remember this when you run to shake his hand or get his autograph or kiss his ass at internext.

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                                    • CCFool
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                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 103

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by sexsup
                                      Is it a joke or what?
                                      Nope

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                                      • kmanrox
                                        aka K-Man
                                        • Oct 2001
                                        • 29295

                                        #20
                                        im going to sue al gore for inventing the internet improperly
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                                        • CCFool
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                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 103

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by goBigtime


                                          Far more than we all know.... it's going to get really bad.
                                          Tell us what you know...

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                                          • salo18
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                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 859

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by LiveDose
                                            Hopefully someone kills this fuck.
                                            .

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                                            • Shap
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                                              • May 2001
                                              • 8313

                                              #23
                                              Yep this is the same Brian Shuster that OWNS Xpics.

                                              I personally believe acacia is a joke compared to what Brian will try to do to the adult web. Remember Acacia has a broad patent on video technology and they just so happened to target the adult web first.

                                              Brian ran XPICS. He knows the adult web REAL WELL. He acquired patents to go after the adult web or sell them, which ever was more profitable. This is just one of many that he has (ie Exit Console and Banners with Sound).

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                                              • doornx
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                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 2531

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by shap
                                                Yep this is the same Brian Shuster that OWNS Xpics.

                                                I personally believe acacia is a joke compared to what Brian will try to do to the adult web. Remember Acacia has a broad patent on video technology and they just so happened to target the adult web first.

                                                Brian ran XPICS. He knows the adult web REAL WELL. He acquired patents to go after the adult web or sell them, which ever was more profitable. This is just one of many that he has (ie Exit Console and Banners with Sound).
                                                how can someone own a patent to subdomains..that's crazy shit
                                                it's a feature wich operating systems/DNS servers allow..he might be the first one who has used it but i can hardly imagine he invented it
                                                Send me a PM for design work

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                                                • fuelcell
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                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 1525

                                                  #25
                                                  i invented the interweb
                                                  Beat it. Nothing to see here.

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                                                  • PersianKitty
                                                    Meow Media Inc.
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 7785

                                                    #26
                                                    Here's a few others..

                                                    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...er%2C+Brian%22


                                                    System apparatus and method for hosting and assigning domain names on a wide area network

                                                    Method, apparatus and system for directing access to content on a computer network

                                                    System for remotely controlling an animatronic device in a chat environment utilizing control signals sent by a remote device over the internet

                                                    Method and apparatus for controlling medical monitoring devices over the internet

                                                    Method and apparatus for gaming

                                                    Method and apparatus for using distributed multimedia information


                                                    and some applications that haven't yet been approved..

                                                    http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...FIELD2=&d=PG01

                                                    Method and apparatus for remote data collection of product information using a communications device

                                                    Addressee-defined mail addressing system and method

                                                    Method and apparatus for providing audio advertisements in a computer network

                                                    Method and apparatus for transacting divisible property

                                                    Method and apparatus for managing ownership of virtual property

                                                    System and method for aggregating information over a wide area network

                                                    Method and apparatus for controlling an animatronic device using a web enabled cellular phone

                                                    Method and apparatus for conducting domain name service

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                                                    • Axeman
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                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 5201

                                                      #27
                                                      lmao, Shuster will never change. what a jackass.

                                                      No question however, Shuster knows this business extremely well and has had this gameplan to milk the adult web for all he can for a very long time. Once the FCC crippled his empire with their fines, he turned his attention to making money from us in other ways.

                                                      Brian's patents are very much directed at us, and we need to take him seriously.
                                                      Last edited by Axeman; 03-12-2004, 07:10 AM.
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                                                      • CCFool
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                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                        • 103

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Wilbo
                                                        This patent thing is getting waaaayyyy outta hand.

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                                                        • dantheman
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                                                          • May 2002
                                                          • 3308

                                                          #29
                                                          bullshit
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                                                          • FightThisPatent
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                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                            • 4090

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by CCFool
                                                            Here is the letter they are mailing to Web Hosting companies.



                                                            I received an email and a typed copy of the letter a few days ago.. and it does appear that IdeaFlood has now surfaced.

                                                            It seems that the targets might be anyone who is using a subdomain rather than just the company providing the DNS.

                                                            Which means many people can be targeted for "contributory infringement".

                                                            I had seen a mainstream article that was talking about a subdomain patent, and now i get the connection that it's the same company.. targetting both adult and mainstream.

                                                            Technically, the "www." part of a URL is a subdomain, so maybe everyone that has a website is infringing

                                                            If you have been hit with a similar letter, feel free to contact me so i can help to connect people together.

                                                            If you have received a letter, it's best to let an attorney handle the correspondance (doesn't have to be a patent attorney at this stage, just someone that will make them explain how you are infringing), rather than you talking to them directly.


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                                                            • CCFool
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                                                              • 103

                                                              #31
                                                              Nice to see you around FTP!

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                                                                • FightThisPatent
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by CCFool
                                                                  Nice to see you around FTP!


                                                                  Always vigilant... I didn't want to post this story yet til I got some more confirmation..since i didn't get a scan of the letter, just the typed letter.. but it does match what you posted...

                                                                  Many people have been waiting to see when IdeaFlood would surface with the pop-up patent, but instead, they chose to try their first swing with the subdomain patent.

                                                                  The slashdot.org crowd will have a field day with this one.

                                                                  For those amateur prior art searchers (like me), need to find instances of people using subdomains prior to August 1998.

                                                                  I haven't dived too far into the patent, but that it does appear to be bogus, since WWW started commercially around 1994, and DNS was before that... so there should be enough prior art to show the use of subdomains (there are probably more specific claims and I am oversimplifying things right now).




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                                                                  • BradM
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                                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                                    • 3397

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Jesus, I was using subdomains in '97. No proof but damn.

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                                                                    • FightThisPatent
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                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 4090

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                                                      Jesus, I was using subdomains in '97. No proof but damn.


                                                                      Besides showing prior art, another way to invalidate a patent is to show the fraud in the filing and documentation of the patent.

                                                                      The inventors have to disclose all prior art and information that went into the idea.

                                                                      For example: if anyone of these people:

                                                                      Shuster; Brian (Stateline, NV); Leong; Johnson (San Jose, CA); Price; Matthew (Santa Clara, CA); Lam; Brian (Sunnyvale, CA); Johnson; Desmond Ford (Monte Sereno, CA)


                                                                      ...were involved with companies already doing the items described in the patent, then it can be proven the idea was not novel.

                                                                      Like with their popup patent, it was common place back then that people were doing what the patent described, it's just that no one patented the idea... prior art might be hard to find since most webmasters dont' document, they just do it.

                                                                      Before people start jumping on the "patent everything" bandwagon... you need to have an idea that is new and novel and not currently being used or documented anywhere.



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                                                                      • mikeylove
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                                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                                        • 45

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by LiveDose
                                                                        Hopefully someone kills this fuck.

                                                                        (cut)

                                                                        No really.
                                                                        Serious-fucking-ly.
                                                                        I do PHP, bitch.
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                                                                        • valentina
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                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                          • 15

                                                                          #37
                                                                          if your going to go after brian, keep an eye on his attorney (i won't mention his name as he may be yours too but his last name starts with a p ). He most likely is more than a little financially motivated if this thing goes anywhere.
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                                                                          • Doctor Dre
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 51692

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I'm gonna patent air . everytime you inhale you have to pay me 5 cents .

                                                                            that's some FUCKING BULLSHIT .
                                                                            Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                            I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                            • BuckLover
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                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 1656

                                                                              #39
                                                                              If Acacia looses than he will loose as well! fucking Bull Shit!

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                                                                              • Webattorney
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                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                • 30

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                Thank Larry he started the downward spiral. Remember this when you run to shake his hand or get his autograph or kiss his ass at internext.
                                                                                Which Larry? FYI, I have nothing to do with Acacia or this patent.
                                                                                Lawrence G. Walters, Esq.
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                                                                                • - Jesus Christ -
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 7197

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  He will loose... he would have to go after the poeple who coded apache/microsoft/the creators of bind/ECT.

                                                                                  Not the people who SET somthing in a config file.

                                                                                  Scumbags.

                                                                                  Amen

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                                                                                  • Doctor Dre
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 51692

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Webattorney


                                                                                    Which Larry? FYI, I have nothing to do with Acacia or this patent.
                                                                                    He was the first big guy to sing with Acacia
                                                                                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                    • Shap
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                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 8313

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Don't see why you couldn't mention his attorney's name. Greg Picconelli and group. The same guys at the show. Anybody seeking advice may want to choose someone that DOESN'T have Brian Shuster as a client

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                                                                                      • icedemon
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                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 1022

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        "WWW" is a sub-domain. There is plenty of documentation about sub-domains before 1998. From what I'm reading about the patent, is that he is talking about wildcard sub-domains. I'm not sure when the wildcard (*.domainname.com) came out for sub-domains. For example, I have wildcard sub-domains for all of my domain names (I suppose I'll get a letter now). For example:
                                                                                        http://fightthepatent.adult-cybergames.com
                                                                                        http://anythingforthesubdomain.adult-cybergames.com

                                                                                        I didn't fully read the patent. Just glanced over it pretty much. So I could be wrong on what the whole patent is about.
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                                                                                        • icedemon
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                                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                                          • 1022

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Webattorney


                                                                                          Which Larry? FYI, I have nothing to do with Acacia or this patent.
                                                                                          I thought they were talking about you at first Larry. First thing that came to mind when they said Larry for some reason (must be the lawyer thing).

                                                                                          Looks like they're talking about Hustler Larry. Just in case somebody comes up with the wrong Larry like I did.
                                                                                          Clips4Sale.com

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                                                                                          • tootie
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                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                            • 6041

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Get in touch with the person who owned Free Site Network free host back in 1998. I met my husband in October 1998 and several MONTHS before I met him I had a bunch of subdomains at FSN. If CuteFTP had a log that included when I last logged into a server I MIGHT have proof of when I used one of them. There were several other free hosts I used back then with subdomains that I still have in my CuteFTP. Anyone know anything about CuteFTP logs? Does it log the time/date of your last login?


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                                                                                            • FightThisPatent
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Webattorney


                                                                                              Which Larry? FYI, I have nothing to do with Acacia or this patent.


                                                                                              Do you resemble the comment of being a Larry that people "run up to shake his hand or get his autograph or kiss his ass at internext. "




                                                                                              I remember shaking your hand, but didn't see anyone doing the autograph or ass kissing thing.



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                                                                                              • icedemon
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                                                                                                • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Here is a document about wild card sub-domains and subdomains in general.
                                                                                                http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1033.html
                                                                                                That was back on November 1987
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                                                                                                • Rich
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  hmm, isn't www just the default subdomain?

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                                                                                                  • Rictor
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                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                    • 12208

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I hate subdomains. Mostly used by TGP cheaters.

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