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  • Brujah
    Beer Money Baron
    • Jan 2001
    • 22157

    #1

    ok Atheists Agnostics or whoever

    Those of you that do not believe in a god, do you believe in an afterlife or otherside ?
  • wdsguy
    Ryde or Die
    • Dec 2002
    • 19568

    #2
    I am agnostic and no I don't believe in an afterlife.


    Well if there is one, I would prob end up in hell for all the shit i did so I definitly hope there isn't one.

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    • Amputate Your Head
      There can be only one
      • Aug 2001
      • 39075

      #3
      Originally posted by Brujah
      Those of you that do not believe in a god, do you believe in an afterlife or otherside ?
      No. When you die, you're fucking dead. End of story. Get over it.
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      • Mr Pheer
        So Fucking Banned
        • Dec 2002
        • 22083

        #4
        Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


        No. When you die, you're fucking dead. End of story. Get over it.
        Yeah. wormfood, nothing more

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        • Tala
          Fucked if I know
          • Dec 2002
          • 23368

          #5
          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


          No. When you die, you're fucking dead. End of story. Get over it.
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          • Mr. Marks
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2001
            • 7517

            #6
            I believe in God adn I do believe in
            the afterlife.

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            • Brujah
              Beer Money Baron
              • Jan 2001
              • 22157

              #7
              I know the answer. I will share it with GFY tonight. You read it here first!

              If you don't believe, don't worry about it. When you die, thats it. There's nothing else for you. No hell or torture, just nothing.

              If you do believe in one, it will. Your belief creates it for you. Simple as that. The power of the mind.



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              • Plan9
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 1801

                #8
                I have my own set of beliefs, but basically an agnostic. I consider myself a good person, just not a religious one. Borrowing a quote from Thomas Paine:

                I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church.
                That being said - I feel that if there is an afterlife, and a god does exist...if he was spiteful enough to send me to hell for not worshipping him...that isn't a god I would have wished to worship in the first place. Err...not sure if that makes sense when I write it out, but its perfectly clear in my head. its probably too late for me to be thinking about these sort of things.

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                • rip raster
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 2851

                  #9
                  I believe that my balls itch, and that I like the taste of beer

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                  • Amputate Your Head
                    There can be only one
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 39075

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rip raster
                    I believe that my balls itch, and that I like the taste of beer
                    good solid beliefs.... I share those beliefs as well.
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                    • Brujah
                      Beer Money Baron
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 22157

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Plan9
                      I have my own set of beliefs, but basically an agnostic. I consider myself a good person, just not a religious one. Borrowing a quote from Thomas Paine:



                      That being said - I feel that if there is an afterlife, and a god does exist...if he was spiteful enough to send me to hell for not worshipping him...that isn't a god I would have wished to worship in the first place. Err...not sure if that makes sense when I write it out, but its perfectly clear in my head. its probably too late for me to be thinking about these sort of things.
                      Perfect sense to me.

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                      • beemk
                        CLICK HERE
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 20829

                        #12
                        i dont really know, i dont think anyone knows what happens to you after you die. i really wouldnt be surprised if amp is right and you're just done with. we really cant give advice on whats going to happen after you die though, thats like oracle porn giving webmaster advice.
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                        • marcu5
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1485

                          #13
                          i think death is similar to sleep or just passing out.. Eternal blackness, i dont exist anymore, im dead.. But I wont give a shit

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                          • Brujah
                            Beer Money Baron
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 22157

                            #14
                            What if i'm right, and it's all a simple matter of whether you believed there was one or not ? Would you want to believe, or choose not to believe ?

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                            • Rorschach
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 5579

                              #15
                              That's it, nada. Your body's electrical energy dissapates into the environment and your corpse decays into dust.

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                              • Plan9
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 1801

                                #16
                                here's a trippy video to check out...sort of relates to the subject:

                                <a href="http://www.pureeighteen.com/heaven.exe">Right Click and Save Target As</a>

                                Edit: hah I just realized how much this file probably looks like a virus, being a 60kb .exe file...but its just a 3d video in a funky, super compressed format.
                                Last edited by Plan9; 03-11-2004, 01:06 AM.

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                                • marcu5
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 1485

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Brujah
                                  What if i'm right, and it's all a simple matter of whether you believed there was one or not ? Would you want to believe, or choose not to believe ?

                                  it all falls under belief tho, I dont believe in an after life.. I think the whole conception was made soley to console the fear of death -- i dont want to be afraid of death because i know its going to happen, i'd just rather see death as my reward for life.

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                                  • Plan9
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 1801

                                    #18
                                    Damn I wish I still smoked weed, I foresee this turning into a deep thinking, damn-Im-fucking-baked-at-4am stoner thread.

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                                    • Amputate Your Head
                                      There can be only one
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 39075

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Brujah
                                      What if i'm right, and it's all a simple matter of whether you believed there was one or not ? Would you want to believe, or choose not to believe ?
                                      this "God" nonsense is the most ludicrous shit ever devised. What about the rest of the mammals on this earth? Do they go to "heaven" as well? Does your cat go to Hell for killing a bird last week?

                                      "God" and religion was created back in the fucking stone age out of pure necessity. The needs were two fold:

                                      1. Because humans have something other mammals don't. Namely, the ability to reason and think things through. Hence, it was inevitable that the day would come that man would realize, "I am alive. I live. Therefore, one day.... hmmm..... I will NOT be living." And the utter shock of that realization is a little much to handle for Mr. Cromagnon. Thus, the "afterlife" was born. "Hey, it's all good..... you're not really gonna be dead, cuz you're gonna go to this special place!"

                                      2. Control. A simple but VERY effective method of controlling the moral actions of the masses. "If you do this, you're going to Hell!" "But if you do this, you will be welcomed into the Kingdom of whatever....."


                                      and it's been that way ever since.


                                      finally though, and thankfully.... people are beginning to realize this. IT'S A LIE.


                                      Face it. You are going to die someday. And when you do, your story is over. There's no "special place", no "afterlife", no pearly fucking gates, and no Hell. Just dirt. Forever.


                                      The sooner people come to terms with this, the sooner they can move on with their lives and stop living in fear of "God".

                                      I never understood that expression anyway.... "we're good God fearing people"..... I thought "God" was supposed to be all-loving and forgiving? Why should anyone fear that?


                                      anyway..... there ya go.
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                                      • quiet
                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                        • Sep 2001
                                        • 25115

                                        #20
                                        god is dead. looking into that void is difficult, but well worth it.
                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                        • Brujah
                                          Beer Money Baron
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 22157

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Plan9
                                          Damn I wish I still smoked weed, I foresee this turning into a deep thinking, damn-Im-fucking-baked-at-4am stoner thread.
                                          Used to get into these all the time. Wild conversations indeed. The whole fun of it was coming up with some of the most radical explanations or what-if's.

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                                          • marcu5
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 1485

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                            "I am alive. I live. Therefore, one day.... hmmm..... I will NOT be living." And the utter shock of that realization is a little much to handle for Mr. Cromagnon.

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                                            • clickhappy
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 4027

                                              #23
                                              if theres no afterlife then how can so many people who had near death experiences have the same experience? tunnel, light at the end, all of that.

                                              you really think it's just a lack of oxygen to the brain?

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                                              • Mutt
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 34431

                                                #24
                                                people are so lame, can't deal with the fact we're just biological organisms no different than a rat or a plant and we live and die and that's that so they have to create fairytales about eternal life to get them through this hellish existence.

                                                provide ONE shred of evidence that an afterlife of any kind or reincarnation exists.

                                                there is no more evidence for that than there is for the existence of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
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                                                • pimplink
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                  • 9535

                                                  #25
                                                  There's got to be one! I hope....

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                                                  • Amputate Your Head
                                                    There can be only one
                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                    • 39075

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                    if theres no afterlife then how can so many people who had near death experiences have the same experience? tunnel, light at the end, all of that.

                                                    you really think it's just a lack of oxygen to the brain?
                                                    crack smoking gutter whores on the Jerry Springer Show is NOT proof of God's existence.
                                                    SIG TOO BIG

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                                                    • rip raster
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                      • 2851

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pimplink
                                                      There's got to be one! I hope....
                                                      Hope is for weak minded and the poor

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                                                      • Brujah
                                                        Beer Money Baron
                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                        • 22157

                                                        #28
                                                        what's the harm in keeping an open mind, wondering and leaning toward believing in something else ?

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                                                        • Plan9
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 1801

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by quiet
                                                          god is dead. looking into that void is difficult, but well worth it.
                                                          And if you gaze for too long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you...
                                                          OooOOo.
                                                          Deep.

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                                                          • quiet
                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                            • 25115

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Plan9


                                                            And if you gaze for too long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you...
                                                            OooOOo.
                                                            Deep.
                                                            nice Nietzsche quote.
                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                            • Amputate Your Head
                                                              There can be only one
                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                              • 39075

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                                              what's the harm in keeping an open mind, wondering and leaning toward believing in something else ?
                                                              there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

                                                              and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.
                                                              SIG TOO BIG

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                                                              • Plan9
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 1801

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                                if theres no afterlife then how can so many people who had near death experiences have the same experience? tunnel, light at the end, all of that.

                                                                you really think it's just a lack of oxygen to the brain?
                                                                <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hypoxia">Hypoxia</a>

                                                                Can cause hallucination and similar effects. I really dont believe in the near death experience - if there was a god, then in all his omniscience I think he'd know when someone wasn't really going to die

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                                                                • quiet
                                                                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                  • 25115

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                  there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

                                                                  and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.
                                                                  thumbs fucking up.

                                                                  the meek shall inherit the earth? - fuck that. slave morality = the shackles preventing you from becoming all that you might be.
                                                                  we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                  • Plan9
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 1801

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                    there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

                                                                    and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.
                                                                    eh, I think it goes both ways. You're right that the god fearing religious person is going to miss out on some of the finer things in life - but then again, those people might say the same thing of an atheist, or someone with no religious beliefs at all. Its all a matter of perspective, isn't it?

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                                                                    • NiTe-HaWk
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                      • 1196

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                      there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

                                                                      and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.
                                                                      or you can believe there is a God and trust that he will forgive you for the crap you do and not worry that you are doing something wrong everyday
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                                                                      • quiet
                                                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                        • Sep 2001
                                                                        • 25115

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Plan9


                                                                        eh, I think it goes both ways. You're right that the god fearing religious person is going to miss out on some of the finer things in life - but then again, those people might say the same thing of an atheist, or someone with no religious beliefs at all. Its all a matter of perspective, isn't it?
                                                                        ignorance may certainly be bliss, no doubt. it all depends on what you place value on.
                                                                        we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                        • Plan9
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                          • 1801

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by quiet


                                                                          thumbs fucking up.

                                                                          the meek shall inherit the earth? - fuck that. slave morality = the shackles preventing you from becoming all that you might be.
                                                                          Amen!
                                                                          We should start a GFY religion...who's with me?
                                                                          Im sure there'd be some nice tax write offs involved for everyone
                                                                          Instead of 'Signups' we'll them 'Donations'. Perfect.

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                                                                          • marcu5
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 1485

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by NiTe-HaWk


                                                                            or you can believe there is a God and trust that he will forgive you for the crap you do and not worry that you are doing something wrong everyday

                                                                            It all depends on what's your perception of wrong. Don't believe in everyone elses perception of what is Right and Wrong in life.

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                                                                            • clickhappy
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 4027

                                                                              #39
                                                                              what would it take for you all to believe that there's an afterlife? Or even that theres something out there?

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                                                                              • Mutt
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                • 34431

                                                                                #40
                                                                                oh if you can really get yourself to a place where you truly believe the fairytale than I am jealous of you - that would be great.
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                                                                                • Mutt
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                  • 34431

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                                                  what would it take for you all to believe that there's an afterlife? Or even that theres something out there?
                                                                                  if i was contacted by a dead friend or family member.
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                                                                                  • Brujah
                                                                                    Beer Money Baron
                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                    • 22157

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    were you raised believing in something and then at some point came to a realization otherwise ?

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                                                                                    • rip raster
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 2851

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by clickhappy
                                                                                      what would it take for you all to believe that there's an afterlife? Or even that theres something out there?
                                                                                      Show me and I will believe

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                                                                                      • Amputate Your Head
                                                                                        There can be only one
                                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                                        • 39075

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                        were you raised believing in something and then at some point came to a realization otherwise ?
                                                                                        yes.... I was forced to go to church until I was finally "confirmed". Never went after that, and round about the time I turned 30, everything changed.

                                                                                        and thank god for that. (pardon the expression)
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                                                                                        • Brujah
                                                                                          Beer Money Baron
                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                          • 22157

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          hate to bail when it's getting good but I'm not feeling great. cheers all.

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                                                                                          • bhutocracy
                                                                                            Not making A Comeback
                                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                                            • 10218

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            no. total destruction of consciousness.

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                                                                                            • bhutocracy
                                                                                              Not making A Comeback
                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 10218

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                              were you raised believing in something and then at some point came to a realization otherwise ?
                                                                                              yes.

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                                                                                              • chodadog
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Apr 2002
                                                                                                • 9736

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


                                                                                                there's a LOT of harm in it. It prevents you from living life to it's fullest because you live in a bubble of lies, constantly fearing action, inaction, do you pray enough, should you be praying, what if God is upset with me for this or that......

                                                                                                and you end up dying, having lived your whole life a slave to the biggest lie in history.
                                                                                                I think something like this might be true of some really hardcore christians, but i don't think it accurately describes all believers of some sort of afterlife.

                                                                                                I believe in God. I don't know why. I just do.

                                                                                                For me, if there's no good, there's no point. The 60, 70, 80 years that most of us will be on this rock for are absolutely insignificant in th grand scheme of things. Why even bother if there's nothing. Why not just shoot yourself now and get it over with. What's the point of living a forfilling life is you can't even look back at it and be happy with what you've achieved?

                                                                                                I wouldn't say i'm Christian. I share similar beliefs to christians about the way you should treat your fellow man, and all that. But i don't see the bible, or any other religious text for that matter, as the word of god.

                                                                                                Either way, it doesn't effect the way i live. I treat people the way i treat them because i believe it's the right thing to do. Regardless, i'm happy with my life and where it's going, and god or no god, i'm going to enjoy whatever time i have left.
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                                                                                                • Plan9
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 1801

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by chodadog


                                                                                                  I think something like this might be true of some really hardcore christians, but i don't think it accurately describes all believers of some sort of afterlife.

                                                                                                  I believe in God. I don't know why. I just do.

                                                                                                  For me, if there's no good, there's no point. The 60, 70, 80 years that most of us will be on this rock for are absolutely insignificant in th grand scheme of things. Why even bother if there's nothing. Why not just shoot yourself now and get it over with. What's the point of living a forfilling life is you can't even look back at it and be happy with what you've achieved?

                                                                                                  I wouldn't say i'm Christian. I share similar beliefs to christians about the way you should treat your fellow man, and all that. But i don't see the bible, or any other religious text for that matter, as the word of god.

                                                                                                  Either way, it doesn't effect the way i live. I treat people the way i treat them because i believe it's the right thing to do. Regardless, i'm happy with my life and where it's going, and god or no god, i'm going to enjoy whatever time i have left.
                                                                                                  amen brotha

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                                                                                                  • rett11
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                    • 397

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    some nice posts. I don't believe in an afterlife, I'm afraid. sometimes I wish I did.
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