I would rather have my twin babies die then get a Caesarean Section!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

Jedimaster · 03-12-2004, 06:32 AM

Is what this piece of shit said.

And sure enough,,1 of the babies died.

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AP) -- A pregnant woman who allegedly ignored medical warnings to have a Caesarean section to save her twins was charged Thursday with murder after one of the babies was stillborn.

Prosecutors said Melissa Ann Rowland, 28, didn't want the scars that accompany the surgery.

An autopsy found the baby died two days before its January 13 delivery and that it would have survived if Rowland had had a C-section when her doctors urged her to, between Christmas and January 9. The other baby is alive, but authorities had no further information.

The doctors had warned that without a C-section, the twins would probably die, authorities said. A nurse told police Rowland said a Caesarean would "ruin her life" and she would rather "lose one of the babies than be cut like that."

"We are unable to find any reason other than the cosmetic motivations" for the mother's decision, said Kent Morgan, spokesman for the district attorney.

Court documents give no address for Rowland, and she isn't listed in area telephone books. An attorney was to be appointed for her Friday, Morgan said.

The charges carry five years to life in prison. Rowland was jailed on $250,000 bail.

According to the documents, Rowland went to LDS Hospital in Salt Lake City in December to seek advice after she hadn't felt her babies move. A nurse, Regina Davis, told police she instructed Rowland to go immediately to one of two other hospitals, but that Rowland said she would rather have both babies die before going to either place.

On January 2, a doctor at LDS Hospital examined Rowland and recommended an immediate C-section based on an ultrasound and the babies' slowing heart rates. Rowland left, the doctor told police.

The same day, Rowland allegedly saw a nurse at another hospital, saying she had left LDS Hospital because the doctor wanted to cut her "from breast bone to pubic bone."

A week later, Rowland allegedly went to a third hospital to verify whether her babies were alive. A nurse there told police she could not detect a heartbeat from one twin and advised Rowland to remain in the hospital, but Rowland allegedly ignored the advice.

In January, the state Supreme Court ruled that unborn children at all stages of development are covered under the state's criminal homicide statute. The law exempts the death of a fetus during an abortion.

The law has been used to prosecute women who kill or seriously harm their babies through drug use; it has never been used because a woman failed to follow her doctor's advice, said Marguerite Driessen, a law professor at Brigham Young University.

"It's very troubling to have somebody come in and say we're going to charge this mother for murder because we don't like the choices she made," Driessen said.

BloodFart · 03-12-2004, 06:38 AM

Too bad she didnt die, but if the govt can force her to be cut open, i'm going on an all out campaign to have homosexuals castrated.

Va2k · 03-12-2004, 06:38 AM

I saw this last night on the news, I can kinda of understand her point about going under the knife but shit if it was me I would of gone under it *shrugs*

Tom

PetMyKitty · 03-12-2004, 06:44 AM

why do they care. they're killing babies everyday in abortion clinics.

Mike-BP · 03-12-2004, 06:46 AM

Ugly whore

SureFire · 03-12-2004, 06:50 AM

What was that woman thinking? She doesn?t deserve to be a mother. Hope she rots in jail.

broke · 03-12-2004, 06:57 AM

Fuck the government.

Politicians are not going to decide when I must undergo an invasive medical procedure. That is ultimately my decision which will be made after considering the pros and cons of the medical advice.

Tracy · 03-12-2004, 07:01 AM

What a fucking C U N T !

cool1 · 03-12-2004, 07:06 AM

Very stupid

She should have had the C-Section
It would not have ruined her life
She is already ugly.

dav555add · 03-12-2004, 07:07 AM

That fucking hahahaha deserves to go to jail.
If you can't assume the risk then don't become pregnant.
She said no to a C-section so that she would not be scared !!!!
Didn't she know she looked like a phat ugly hahahaha anyways???
Some people do not even deserve to live.

Meta Ridley · 03-12-2004, 07:19 AM

GO ahead and say shes fucked up. But murder? I dont think so.
Charging her is wrong on SO many levers.

Milena Dickman · 03-12-2004, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by coolone
Very stupid

She should have had the C-Section
It would not have ruined her life
She is already ugly.

That's exactly what I was thinking!

kisses,

Milena

DarkJedi · 03-12-2004, 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by PetMyKitty
why do they care. they're killing babies everyday in abortion clinics.

no shit.

WicKed NinJas · 03-12-2004, 07:38 AM

you dont get cut that fucking much any damn way, plus doesnt she know that it will keep her shit tight....lol

Spunky · 03-12-2004, 07:39 AM

Then why did you fuck her in the first place?

LadyMischief · 03-12-2004, 07:42 AM

Stupid fucking bitch.. They should charge her. As someone who's had THREE caesarean sections, and some really bad ones, I can honestly say that they are NOTHING compared to the joy of having babies.

Oh and Wicked Ninjas, you DO get cut that much... my incisions are hip to hip with 38 staples. 6-8 weeks of recovery minimum. It's not easy, but it's still worth it.

radical · 03-12-2004, 07:46 AM

Send her to the electric chair

broke · 03-12-2004, 07:55 AM

It's murder not to be able to carry a child to term these days?

Cool -- I'm married to a double murderer.

PetMyKitty · 03-12-2004, 08:14 AM

i've had two c-sections...
was off for two weeks for the 1st one and off 2 weeks for the 2nd one. the 2nd one felt way better than the lst one recovery wise... sooo much better than going through actual labor which i did with my first kid! i'd have 100 more c-sections over regular labor anyday.

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
Stupid fucking bitch.. They should charge her. As someone who's had THREE caesarean sections, and some really bad ones, I can honestly say that they are NOTHING compared to the joy of having babies.

Oh and Wicked Ninjas, you DO get cut that much... my incisions are hip to hip with 38 staples. 6-8 weeks of recovery minimum. It's not easy, but it's still worth it.

PetMyKitty · 03-12-2004, 08:16 AM

i think it's ironic that...

if a woman is preganant and you hit her with your car or something and she has a miscarriage you can be charged with murder of the unborn child.. because the prosecutor argues that the unborn child is a real human blah blah blah.. and then you can turn around and go have an abortion and its ok because they don't consider a baby a real human until it's born...............

Za Ha · 03-12-2004, 08:17 AM

Stupid bitch. She doesnt deserve a kid.

eiht_98 · 03-12-2004, 08:52 AM

My mother doesn't have such a big incision.

Winterverse · 03-12-2004, 08:57 AM

Thats really just fucked up, we need to screen these bitches before they jump and have babies.

LaurieX · 03-12-2004, 09:30 AM

That is BAD!!

CDSmith · 03-12-2004, 09:40 AM

I'm not saying the government should be able to force anyone to go under the knife, but if a bitch goes this route the government should be able to prosecute the fuck out of her. She could have fucking saved her child for christ sake.

Re: c-sections ---- the severity of the procedure and the size of the incision must be a case by case thing then, because when two of my nephews were born my ex-sister-in-law had c-sections both times. She called what they gave her a "bikini cut".... and the scar was barely visible.

masta flash · 03-12-2004, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PetMyKitty
why do they care. they're killing babies everyday in abortion clinics.

yeah, I don't really see a difference

CDSmith · 03-12-2004, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by masta flash
yeah, I don't really see a difference

You don't see a difference between a 3 week old fetus and a full term baby ready to be born?

fyrflygrl · 03-12-2004, 10:01 AM

k, I 100% disagree with the choice this woman made.... I would have had the c-section in a minute...

But let's look at it this way:

If this woman if found guilty of murder because of a choice she made to not have a c-section, won't that set a precedent in our legal system for other women who may face the same choice? And do we want the reasons to have/not have a c-section defined legally for us?

This woman was pregnant with twins... not something usually planned.... and she was given a choice by medical professionals and the consequences explained to her... I believe that almost all women would have had the c-section... so I hope they don't create some crazy law based on this woman's stupidity that prevents choice (and effects the civil rights) of other women.

A legal decision like this could be the difference between 'Ma'am, I strongly advise you to have a c-section, what's your decision?' or 'Ma'am, have this c-section or you'll potentially spend life in jail if the outcome of your decision doesn't please us'....

Fyrflygrl

Tofu · 03-12-2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jedimaster

CDSmith · 03-12-2004, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fyrflygrl
If this woman if found guilty of murder because of a choice she made to not have a c-section, won't that set a precedent in our legal system for other women who may face the same choice? And do we want the reasons to have/not have a c-section defined legally for us?

The thing is, if both babies had lived there would be no fuss. I don't think there should be a law created to make having the surgery mandatory in future cases..... but I think that if (for want of a better term) some stupid twat wants to risk her baby's life over her own selfish reasons you bet she should suffer criminal charges.... if not murder then something along the lines of criminal negligence or manslaughter.

What I'm saying is, for future cases they should say "Hey, if you want to be a selfish bitch and risk your child's life that is your choice.... but if your child dies as a result of that selfish choice you WILL be held accountable."

CE_BigB · 03-12-2004, 10:13 AM

My kids were both born C-Section.. 20 yrs ago... and mom was up and around in just a few days..... so I would have encouraged this woman to have C-Section...

However, I shutter at the thought of any govt or entity having the power to FORCE any mother to have C-Section or any other treatment against her will...

sure the kids have rights.. but you cant ask them how they want to be born.. so you ask mom... and moms choice should be final...

Big B

CE_BigB · 03-12-2004, 10:14 AM

Now I got another question...

Who The fuck was the blind man that hit that ugly bitch
and knocked her up...???

Big B

Tofu · 03-12-2004, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CE_BigB
Now I got another question...

Who The fuck was the blind man that hit that ugly bitch
and knocked her up...???

Big B

I was going to say that too....I want to beat the man whos responsible for that shit.

masta flash · 03-12-2004, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
You don't see a difference between a 3 week old fetus and a full term baby ready to be born?

A baby is a baby. Regardless of its devolopment stage.

CDSmith · 03-12-2004, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masta flash
A baby is a baby. Regardless of its devolopment stage.

Abortion laws see it different. In most states and in Canada there is a time limit set, thus drawing a distinction.

But this case doesn't involve an abortion, it involves a stupid selfish woman whose selfish decision caused the death of her full term offspring. She needs to be held accountable for that decision.

julia · 03-12-2004, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masta flash

A baby is a baby. Regardless of its devolopment stage.

Not for the law. It all depends on the developpement of the foetus (number of weeks).

-=HOAX=- · 03-12-2004, 10:25 AM

I'd hit it!

Lykos · 03-12-2004, 10:25 AM

That sucks...

masta flash · 03-12-2004, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by julia

Not for the law. It all depends on the developpement of the foetus (number of weeks).

I was just giving my opinion. I relize the law does not see it that way.

CDSmith · 03-12-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
I'd hit it!

Why did I know that was coming?

Let me guess....... boneprone fucked it.

rett11 · 03-12-2004, 10:27 AM

dumb bitch, but if you put her in jail it's a slippery slope. the religious right would grab ahold of that and run with it.

CDSmith · 03-12-2004, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masta flash
I was just giving my opinion. I relize the law does not see it that way.

No problem. You are obviously an anti-abortionist, and that's fine. In principle I too am anti-abortion, but I can also see that legalized safe abortions are a must because people are going to have them whether they are legal or not. They may as well be able to get them done safely. But that is another discussion altogether.

This case may very well be used as a leverage case by the staunch anti-abortion crowd though, your point is definitely valid.

Arousal Design · 03-12-2004, 10:51 AM

The irony of the situation is she gave life and took life all at the same time. I don't think people should be forced to have any medical procedures done unto them, but in this case I think there has to be some sort of punishment for blatantly endangering the life of her very developed baby.

To me, if she were to birth both babies successfully, then 2 days later left one in the car and it died cause of heatstroke... she'd go to jail. Well, in essence, the babies were live, kickin and ready and she deliberately put one of their lives at risk and now she should have to pay the price. Sure it's her body, but she's out numbered 2 to 1 here...

I'm probably wrong but oh well.

VeriSexy · 03-12-2004, 10:52 AM

She looks retarded

sperbonzo · 03-12-2004, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
You don't see a difference between a 3 week old fetus and a full term baby ready to be born?

So are you for late term abortions, or against them?

After all, babys born 3.5 months premature are surviving these days all the time.

Buddy · 03-12-2004, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HOAX=-
I'd hit it!

She's your type, I can tell from the pic.
She looks drugged ;)

PetMyKitty · 03-12-2004, 11:20 AM

i was watching the discovery channel a few days ago about this couple who was going to have 7 babies due to fertility drugs. the doctors were encouraging them to abort some so the rest would have a better chance at survival.

the couple chose not to abort any.. and all were born ok.. but.. if they had chose NOT to abort any and a few died at birth or were stillborn would they be charged with murder for not heeding the doctors advice to save what children they could???

hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

CDSmith · 03-12-2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
So are you for late term abortions, or against them?

After all, babys born 3.5 months premature are surviving these days all the time.

I am against late-term abortions, as it should be obvious by a few of my posts here. Most current laws in N. America draw the legal line at around 3 months from conception I believe, but they do vary.

But again I must point out, we aren't talking about an abortion in this case.

kmanrox · 03-12-2004, 11:28 AM

by the looks of her... a scar on her body could only HELP that slag

Cr34t1v3 · 03-12-2004, 11:29 AM

My first thought was...she should be charged for trying to
breed.....at all.

Second was....at least one of the babies got off lucky. It died.
Unfortunately the other one is stuck with that for a mother
whether she goes to jail or not.

Third, it concerns me that she was charged with murder....for
"not" opting for cesaerean. Perhaps if her "motivation" were not
known at the time, a murder charge would not have occured?
Chalked up to a tragic decision instead?

Last time I looked we had a right to say how we will give birth.
There are women this very second, starving themselves, smoking
crack, selling sex and drinking alcohol all while being pregnant,
who then lose the babies to whatever circumstance. They are
not charged with murder are they?

I'm in no way defending this abominable person, I just question
the legal standpoint and have to wonder what they'll tell us we
cannot do next.

Just my

.

03-12-2004, 06:32 AM	#1
Jedimaster Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,120	I would rather have my twin babies die then get a Caesarean Section!!! Is what this piece of shit said. And sure enough,,1 of the babies died. SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AP) -- A pregnant woman who allegedly ignored medical warnings to have a Caesarean section to save her twins was charged Thursday with murder after one of the babies was stillborn. Prosecutors said Melissa Ann Rowland, 28, didn't want the scars that accompany the surgery. An autopsy found the baby died two days before its January 13 delivery and that it would have survived if Rowland had had a C-section when her doctors urged her to, between Christmas and January 9. The other baby is alive, but authorities had no further information. The doctors had warned that without a C-section, the twins would probably die, authorities said. A nurse told police Rowland said a Caesarean would "ruin her life" and she would rather "lose one of the babies than be cut like that." "We are unable to find any reason other than the cosmetic motivations" for the mother's decision, said Kent Morgan, spokesman for the district attorney. Court documents give no address for Rowland, and she isn't listed in area telephone books. An attorney was to be appointed for her Friday, Morgan said. The charges carry five years to life in prison. Rowland was jailed on $250,000 bail. According to the documents, Rowland went to LDS Hospital in Salt Lake City in December to seek advice after she hadn't felt her babies move. A nurse, Regina Davis, told police she instructed Rowland to go immediately to one of two other hospitals, but that Rowland said she would rather have both babies die before going to either place. On January 2, a doctor at LDS Hospital examined Rowland and recommended an immediate C-section based on an ultrasound and the babies' slowing heart rates. Rowland left, the doctor told police. The same day, Rowland allegedly saw a nurse at another hospital, saying she had left LDS Hospital because the doctor wanted to cut her "from breast bone to pubic bone." A week later, Rowland allegedly went to a third hospital to verify whether her babies were alive. A nurse there told police she could not detect a heartbeat from one twin and advised Rowland to remain in the hospital, but Rowland allegedly ignored the advice. In January, the state Supreme Court ruled that unborn children at all stages of development are covered under the state's criminal homicide statute. The law exempts the death of a fetus during an abortion. The law has been used to prosecute women who kill or seriously harm their babies through drug use; it has never been used because a woman failed to follow her doctor's advice, said Marguerite Driessen, a law professor at Brigham Young University. "It's very troubling to have somebody come in and say we're going to charge this mother for murder because we don't like the choices she made," Driessen said.

03-12-2004, 06:38 AM	#2
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Va2k I’m still alive barley. Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Va Posts: 10,060	I saw this last night on the news, I can kinda of understand her point about going under the knife but shit if it was me I would of gone under it shrugs Tom __________________

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cool1 sex is good Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Carman, MB Canada Posts: 24,939	Very stupid She should have had the C-Section It would not have ruined her life She is already ugly. __________________

03-12-2004, 06:44 AM	#4
PetMyKitty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 195	why do they care. they're killing babies everyday in abortion clinics.

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SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	What was that woman thinking? She doesn?t deserve to be a mother. Hope she rots in jail.

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broke Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Someplace Windy Posts: 4,501	Fuck the government. Politicians are not going to decide when I must undergo an invasive medical procedure. That is ultimately my decision which will be made after considering the pros and cons of the medical advice.

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dav555add Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,427	That fucking hahahaha deserves to go to jail. If you can't assume the risk then don't become pregnant. She said no to a C-section so that she would not be scared !!!! Didn't she know she looked like a phat ugly hahahaha anyways??? Some people do not even deserve to live. __________________ ...

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03-12-2004, 07:42 AM	#16
LadyMischief Orgasms N Such! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 18,135	Stupid fucking bitch.. They should charge her. As someone who's had THREE caesarean sections, and some really bad ones, I can honestly say that they are NOTHING compared to the joy of having babies. Oh and Wicked Ninjas, you DO get cut that much... my incisions are hip to hip with 38 staples. 6-8 weeks of recovery minimum. It's not easy, but it's still worth it. __________________ ICQ 3522039 Content Manager - orgasm.com [email protected]

03-12-2004, 07:46 AM	#17
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03-12-2004, 07:55 AM	#18
broke Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Someplace Windy Posts: 4,501	It's murder not to be able to carry a child to term these days? Cool -- I'm married to a double murderer.

03-12-2004, 08:16 AM	#20
PetMyKitty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 195	i think it's ironic that... if a woman is preganant and you hit her with your car or something and she has a miscarriage you can be charged with murder of the unborn child.. because the prosecutor argues that the unborn child is a real human blah blah blah.. and then you can turn around and go have an abortion and its ok because they don't consider a baby a real human until it's born...............

03-12-2004, 08:17 AM	#21
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	Stupid bitch. She doesnt deserve a kid.

03-12-2004, 08:52 AM	#22
eiht_98 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: EU Posts: 6,103	My mother doesn't have such a big incision.

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Winterverse Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 278	Thats really just fucked up, we need to screen these bitches before they jump and have babies.

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fyrflygrl Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 250	k, I 100% disagree with the choice this woman made.... I would have had the c-section in a minute... But let's look at it this way: If this woman if found guilty of murder because of a choice she made to not have a c-section, won't that set a precedent in our legal system for other women who may face the same choice? And do we want the reasons to have/not have a c-section defined legally for us? This woman was pregnant with twins... not something usually planned.... and she was given a choice by medical professionals and the consequences explained to her... I believe that almost all women would have had the c-section... so I hope they don't create some crazy law based on this woman's stupidity that prevents choice (and effects the civil rights) of other women. A legal decision like this could be the difference between 'Ma'am, I strongly advise you to have a c-section, what's your decision?' or 'Ma'am, have this c-section or you'll potentially spend life in jail if the outcome of your decision doesn't please us'.... Fyrflygrl __________________ Fyrflygrl! Reciprocal links are great, but you can get High Ranked one way links at LinkAdage Auctions!

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CE_BigB Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,292	My kids were both born C-Section.. 20 yrs ago... and mom was up and around in just a few days..... so I would have encouraged this woman to have C-Section... However, I shutter at the thought of any govt or entity having the power to FORCE any mother to have C-Section or any other treatment against her will... sure the kids have rights.. but you cant ask them how they want to be born.. so you ask mom... and moms choice should be final... Big B __________________ NOW PAYING: $25 per FREE TRIAL signup $1.30 per email (No Deductions) CECash - Trusted & Paying since 1996! email: bigb at cecash dot com ICQ 36966649

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Arousal Design Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Connecticut. Posts: 1,358	The irony of the situation is she gave life and took life all at the same time. I don't think people should be forced to have any medical procedures done unto them, but in this case I think there has to be some sort of punishment for blatantly endangering the life of her very developed baby. To me, if she were to birth both babies successfully, then 2 days later left one in the car and it died cause of heatstroke... she'd go to jail. Well, in essence, the babies were live, kickin and ready and she deliberately put one of their lives at risk and now she should have to pay the price. Sure it's her body, but she's out numbered 2 to 1 here... I'm probably wrong but oh well. __________________ Make Major Bank With Major Personality - NaughtyBank! Featuring NaughtyAllie and NaughtyJulie!

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03-12-2004, 11:20 AM	#47
PetMyKitty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 195	i was watching the discovery channel a few days ago about this couple who was going to have 7 babies due to fertility drugs. the doctors were encouraging them to abort some so the rest would have a better chance at survival. the couple chose not to abort any.. and all were born ok.. but.. if they had chose NOT to abort any and a few died at birth or were stillborn would they be charged with murder for not heeding the doctors advice to save what children they could??? hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

03-12-2004, 11:28 AM	#49
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03-12-2004, 11:29 AM	#50
Cr34t1v3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 62	My first thought was...she should be charged for trying to breed.....at all. Second was....at least one of the babies got off lucky. It died. Unfortunately the other one is stuck with that for a mother whether she goes to jail or not. Third, it concerns me that she was charged with murder....for "not" opting for cesaerean. Perhaps if her "motivation" were not known at the time, a murder charge would not have occured? Chalked up to a tragic decision instead? Last time I looked we had a right to say how we will give birth. There are women this very second, starving themselves, smoking crack, selling sex and drinking alcohol all while being pregnant, who then lose the babies to whatever circumstance. They are not charged with murder are they? I'm in no way defending this abominable person, I just question the legal standpoint and have to wonder what they'll tell us we cannot do next. Just my .