Why I Will ALWAY love Gary Kremen and Sex.com - GoFuckYourself.com

Donny · 03-09-2004, 05:19 PM

One person on this board recently told me, via ICQ, "You just like to give away money, don't you?"

This person is a highly respected individual. He's chastised me in the past for sharing a large percentage of single-girl site revenues with the girls. This particular comment came after I told him I am giving FletchXXX a percentage of net revenues generated from the new tour he created for my Naked College Girls site (the link to that tour is one of the links in my sig).

I see where that person is coming from... but he is right. I DO like to give money away. My reasoning is very simple:

I remember back to the days when I was dirt poor (my dad was pastor when I was growing up). Before selling cars in college (I made decent money at that) I worked the night shift at a saw mill. But while working my mind was constantly wandering... trying to figure out how to "get ahead". I hit up a few of the "rich" guys I knew with my ideas. They kept telling me "not interested", but also telling me that someday I'd find an idea that would launch me on my way. That someone would eventually want to invest some money.

To make a long story short, I started shooting content in 1996 for a few of the larger adult sites. I left a consulting job to go full time into content. I made very good money. Six figures per year. But then my BIG break came along. That break bore the name Gary Kremen (sex.com owner). This was RIGHT BEFORE he won the domain back. Just a few months before. He liked my content enough to make a SMALL capital investment into my content business.

But the best thing he did for me was to take an interest into my (very suck-ass at the time) Naked College Girls site.

Gary told me he'd give me a link on sex.com. Whereever I wanted it to be. So for several months my site was at the VERY top of sex.com. That was back when it was a banner farm.

I looked around and noticed that a lot of free sites had banners up the ass, just like sex.com. But the main entry was always a text link with the words "enter here" or something similar.

SO, I told Gary I wanted a text link at the TOP of sex.com, that stated in LARGE, BOLD letters "Enter Naked College Girls Here".

The traffic came in droves! Things were great until SE Guru took over sex.com. Gary gave him complete control. The first thing he did was remove my link. That's why I hated his ass for the longest time (I like him fine now... we talked things out).

IN A WAY, SE Guru also helped me out. Gary owned 51% of my content business AND my pay site. But since part of our contract was that I'd keep my sex.com link, when SE Guru removed the link the contract was voided. I lost a lot of traffic, but I regained 100% control of my company. Now I have several pay sites and several free sites as well. Life is good.

Anyway... that's part of the reason I believe in sharing. I'd love to help several people rocket ahead, just like Gary did for me.

So, no matter how much "spamming" sex.com reps do here, I'll always stand beside Gary and Sex.com.

Thanks, man.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-09-2004, 05:22 PM

Love things like this it fills in some of the gaps for my book.

Thanks

Steve · 03-09-2004, 05:26 PM

you are growing on me

Rochard · 03-09-2004, 05:27 PM

Cliff notes?

Sosa · 03-09-2004, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
Cliff notes?

Donovan is happy

BVF · 03-09-2004, 05:29 PM

I was able to beg a link off of sex.com from trafficdude back in the day...He did it just for the fuck of it...It's not up now after they revamped their pay per click system but for him to put my link on there just for the fuck of it is commendable.

Donny · 03-09-2004, 05:29 PM

I must also mention:

Around the same time I was fortunate enough to have Persian Kitty put up a very nice link to a free site I had at the time. That REALLY helped launch things too!

baddog · 03-09-2004, 05:33 PM

that is interesting . . . for some reason I always got the impression you did not like Sex.com . . . . wondered why, too.

Thanks for clearing that up.

galleryseek · 03-09-2004, 05:35 PM

are you involved in mainstream at all?

Fletch XXX · 03-09-2004, 05:36 PM

Donny · 03-09-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
are you involved in mainstream at all?

Not really. I have a few things going, but the money from mainstream amounts to very little.

SureFire · 03-09-2004, 05:39 PM

Thank you for sharing.

stocktrader23 · 03-09-2004, 05:40 PM

I'm a fair motherfucker as well. A few people around here know that.

Donny · 03-09-2004, 05:48 PM

I guess it's obvious what my answer is when people ask "did sex.com traffic work for you?"

MrIzzz · 03-09-2004, 05:52 PM

great story

it goes to show that there still are people out there willing to help one another.

wdsguy · 03-09-2004, 06:00 PM

awesome story
very motivating

Donny · 03-09-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
Cliff notes?

Gary Kremen greatly assisted in my success in this business.

finlo · 03-09-2004, 06:23 PM

good read...thx for the story

Fletch XXX · 03-09-2004, 06:25 PM

2 years from now Ill be making late night drinking threads professing my love for Donny.

Donny · 03-09-2004, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
2 years from now Ill be making late night drinking threads professing my love for Donny.

I'm ROTFLMAO

Ozzymosis1 · 03-09-2004, 06:41 PM

Good stuff Donovan.

When are we going to get some Santa Cruz girls up to Chico for a photo shoot

Donny · 03-09-2004, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ozzymosis1
Good stuff Donovan.

When are we going to get some Santa Cruz girls up to Chico for a photo shoot

This needs to be done soon, for sure. Hit me up on ICQ.

SomeCreep · 03-09-2004, 07:37 PM

great, if you're still giving away money, I'll take some

xxxice · 03-09-2004, 07:51 PM

Are there cliff notes for this what happened ?

Donny · 03-09-2004, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
awesome story
very motivating

Nima · 03-09-2004, 11:31 PM

Donovan I just hit you up on ICQ
get back to me when you are there
I wanna talk some biz

03-09-2004, 05:19 PM	#1
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Why I Will ALWAY love Gary Kremen and Sex.com One person on this board recently told me, via ICQ, "You just like to give away money, don't you?" This person is a highly respected individual. He's chastised me in the past for sharing a large percentage of single-girl site revenues with the girls. This particular comment came after I told him I am giving FletchXXX a percentage of net revenues generated from the new tour he created for my Naked College Girls site (the link to that tour is one of the links in my sig). I see where that person is coming from... but he is right. I DO like to give money away. My reasoning is very simple: I remember back to the days when I was dirt poor (my dad was pastor when I was growing up). Before selling cars in college (I made decent money at that) I worked the night shift at a saw mill. But while working my mind was constantly wandering... trying to figure out how to "get ahead". I hit up a few of the "rich" guys I knew with my ideas. They kept telling me "not interested", but also telling me that someday I'd find an idea that would launch me on my way. That someone would eventually want to invest some money. To make a long story short, I started shooting content in 1996 for a few of the larger adult sites. I left a consulting job to go full time into content. I made very good money. Six figures per year. But then my BIG break came along. That break bore the name Gary Kremen (sex.com owner). This was RIGHT BEFORE he won the domain back. Just a few months before. He liked my content enough to make a SMALL capital investment into my content business. But the best thing he did for me was to take an interest into my (very suck-ass at the time) Naked College Girls site. Gary told me he'd give me a link on sex.com. Whereever I wanted it to be. So for several months my site was at the VERY top of sex.com. That was back when it was a banner farm. I looked around and noticed that a lot of free sites had banners up the ass, just like sex.com. But the main entry was always a text link with the words "enter here" or something similar. SO, I told Gary I wanted a text link at the TOP of sex.com, that stated in LARGE, BOLD letters "Enter Naked College Girls Here". The traffic came in droves! Things were great until SE Guru took over sex.com. Gary gave him complete control. The first thing he did was remove my link. That's why I hated his ass for the longest time (I like him fine now... we talked things out). IN A WAY, SE Guru also helped me out. Gary owned 51% of my content business AND my pay site. But since part of our contract was that I'd keep my sex.com link, when SE Guru removed the link the contract was voided. I lost a lot of traffic, but I regained 100% control of my company. Now I have several pay sites and several free sites as well. Life is good. Anyway... that's part of the reason I believe in sharing. I'd love to help several people rocket ahead, just like Gary did for me. So, no matter how much "spamming" sex.com reps do here, I'll always stand beside Gary and Sex.com. Thanks, man.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	that is interesting . . . for some reason I always got the impression you did not like Sex.com . . . . wondered why, too. Thanks for clearing that up.

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galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	are you involved in mainstream at all?

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SureFire Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: internet Posts: 4,398	Thank you for sharing.

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03-09-2004, 05:48 PM	#14
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I guess it's obvious what my answer is when people ask "did sex.com traffic work for you?"

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Ozzymosis1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United States Occupation: Traffic Broker Company: Fast Adult Traffic URL: FastAdultTraffic.com ICQ: 233907523 Posts: 2,094	Good stuff Donovan. When are we going to get some Santa Cruz girls up to Chico for a photo shoot __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Are there cliff notes for this what happened ?

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Nima Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,192	Donovan I just hit you up on ICQ get back to me when you are there I wanna talk some biz