Free Porn is there really too much?

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Free Porn is there really too much?

Posted by: Admin on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:02 PM EST

by Dan Post
How much is too much when it comes to adult webmasters and free porn. Some say there is way too much free porn out there in the market today which is making it harder and harder to get sales. Some also say there are too many webmasters out there trying to make a living now. Like so many things this could all just be the opinions of some and not others.

Content is what surfers are looking for of course and that is what we as webmasters have to provide if we expect to get people to signup and spend their money to see our sites. We have got to keep the freshest content around and with any luck maybe a lot of exclusive content. This could change the business model that most use to operate their sites.

There is a ton of free porn on the web this is one point no one will argue but does this hurt the business? Well I think that?s a hard question to really answer but in my opinion there is too much. If starting today all sponsors stopped the practice of offering free porn what would it change?

Let's take a look at the food chain and see what could happen if all free porn was stopped. For one thing if there was no more new free porn released it would have a major effect on several parts of the industry as a whole. So we need to keep some things in mind as we step through this. Remember that each part of this industry affects another part of the industry. No more free porn released from the major sponsors and content providers would affect new webmasters coming into the business. It would do this by raising the cost of getting into the business to start with. Right now a person can get online and in a few hours have enough content to submit galleries for weeks if not months. This means that startup is relatively cheap. This attracts new webmasters plain and simple. So if we stop free content we have already done several things. One we have reduced the number of new webmasters starting into the business. Within a short amount of time the free content that is out becomes stale, old and seen by everyone. We have now increased the demand for new content. This means we have increased the number of signups a pay site can expect to get. If it isn?t free the surfer is going to have to pay to play. Now that all may sound well and good to a lot of you but lets take a look at the rest of what this would effect.

Keeping in mind that there are several parts to the industry as a whole an adult webmaster is only a small part of the business. If we have less new webmasters coming online we also have less need for designers and graphics artists. We also have less traffic going to TGP sites since the TGP sites only have old content for them to see. I can only make assumptions about some of this but currently I have to assume the major sites that provide free content do so for one reason, to get webmasters to drive traffic their sites. This is of course done by webmasters building galleries and submitting them to TGP sites. The TGP sites currently control the bulk of the traffic in the industry and no free porn would reduce their control in a major way. Now sure they could buy content and continue to feed their sites with fresh content which would of course benefit content providers in a major way but it also changes the business model that TGP site operators are working on now. Without free content feeding their sites their profit structure would change. They would get fewer submissions. Their traffic would decrease over time unless they convinced webmasters to buy content for galleries or they would have to buy it. The bandwidth would become a major cash problem. This would make a TGP site owner completely rethink their business model for several other reasons.

This is also going to affect the manner in which large pay sites are going to get traffic. Without giving free content they are going to have less webmasters building galleries and sending them traffic. At first look this could be a bad thing but again we have to look at the big picture in order to see the results. While they would not have a lot of new webmasters signing up for their cash programs because the cost of getting into business would be higher. Again it appears less traffic so less money is going to be made.

Now that?s the pretty standard ways of seeing things. Let's look at another angle on things. Let us assume we have gone months without any new free content being released. We already know traffic to TGP sites and pay sites would have fallen off some and in some case a lot. The surfers are out there getting sick of jacking off to the same content and they are getting hungry for new stuff. This will drive them to change their surfing habits. The search term "free porn" would start becoming a term rarely used, instead the terms "pay site", "exclusive content" and "new or fresh content" are going to start getting a lot more attention.

In a few short months the industry would have shrunk. It would have shrunk in terms of webmasters mostly at this point. True the incomes of some pay sites would have fallen and several TGP sites that depend on both free content and webmasters submitting galleries would have also closed up. Several web Design companies would also have either changed the way they do business or they too would be out of business. Hosts would also notice a major change. Less webmasters and less bandwidth being sold. Again this is not a pretty picture to most in the business but is it really bad?

Let's take a look at what could happen as a result of this all. As I said before the search terms being used would change. The ways that pay sites will attract traffic is also going to change. Pay site owners would have to work much harder at attracting surfers than ever before without hundreds if not thousands of webmasters submitting free galleries to TGP sites and building their free sites and AVS sites to up sell to their sponsors.

Yes several TGP sites would have closed down because without the new webmasters coming online using free content the numbers would fall. There would be some survive this I am sure. A lot of webmasters are sitting on enough content to submit galleries for a year and never submit the same one twice real easy. So that content wont appear to get all that old so the webmasters that have been buying content all along are going to still be out their building and submitting. Their traffic is going to increase. Less TGP sites, less webmasters more traffic for each that have survived. This in turn means more concentrated traffic to sponsors and hungrier surfers to the sponsors. In this scenario conversion rates should increase in big ways which is going to make pay site owners more money in several ways.

In the long run less free content for the surfer is going to benefit the pay site owners. It is also going to have a big effect on other parts of the industry. As I said, less new webmasters going into business means less need for web designers and graphics people. This means less of them starting into the business since it would become even more competitive than it already is today. Hosts would also feel this effect. While there are still as many surfers out there surfing there are also less webmasters dealing with that traffic. Again supply and demand will go to work thinning the number of hosting companies. Other parts of the business would also be affected.

In a recent article posted on this site by much respected webmaster relates his feelings on all the new resource sites starting up. This too would change. With less new webmasters coming into the business there would be less chance of a new resource site ever making it. Currently a new resource site can attract new webmasters to build its community but with far less new webmasters coming into the business there would be a lot less for them to draw from. Yes it would affect the resource site operators in a major way also. In fact free porn affects every part of this industry.

To some the things I have said may sound really good. Think about it if half the webmasters in the business were gone but the same numbers of surfers are there it means each remaining webmaster is going to make more money. Same for other parts of the industry the ones that survive will make more.


Free porn I think is here to stay. It drives the business models we have all worked off of. If free porn went away Search Engines would control almost all traffic. At this point it would become who can afford to buy the top spots would get traffic and those who can?t would be gone. I don't see things going this way at all. I don't think any pay site owner really wants a few search engines to have full control over traffic. This all said, hey who knows maybe some would see this as a way of thinning the ranks and concentrating the money this industry produces. I don't think it could ever happen because if the large pay site owners stop providing free porn the smaller site owners will start supplying it and take the large sites place. Competition drives this industry as much as anything else and without it the industry would suffer. I think that the future is going to see change as it does in all businesses and it will be new ways of marketing our products that will change it.

[sixxxth_sense]

u sure like posting big ass bullshit sig spammin threads aint nobody gonna read that man!

[KMR Stitch]

Originally posted by sixxxth_sense
u sure like posting big ass bullshit sig spammin threads aint nobody gonna read that man!

Guess what? Ignore => bye

[KMR Stitch]

Oh by the way FUCK you're sig. MPA2 Fucking shaver

[KRL]

Cliff notes?

[Reak]

Originally posted by sixxxth_sense
u sure like posting big ass bullshit sig spammin threads aint nobody gonna read that man!

Why shouldnt we read that? I'm actually going to.

[bdld]

didn't read it all the way through.. but yes the adult biz would be better off with less free porn of course..

[Reak]

Originally posted by bdld
didn't read it all the way through.. but yes the adult biz would be better off with less free porn of course..

i think you didn't read it

[Reak]

this thread worth a bump

[the Shemp]

Originally posted by KRL
Cliff notes?

"free porn for the people"

[KMR Stitch]

Originally posted by Reak
this thread worth a bump

Indeed, one of the more insightful threads on gfy

[69pornlinks]

Originally posted by KMR Stitch


Indeed, one of the more insightful threads on gfy

i doubt anyone will read that make like 20 diffrent threads each with a paragraph

[reynold]

It's free for the people.

[zentz]

it would be nice if all webmasters would made a deal to decrease amount of free porn provided on net...

[Ash@phpFX]

not a bad article. free content is never going to dissapear though

[Phoenix66]

I'm not against free content at whole, but I think there is too much of explicit content and it's of a too high quality.

People post 800x600 pics with 5-6 pussy and ass closeups (if it's a solo) or whole hardcore series and then complain that signup ratio got worse.

I know that this is required now by many major TGP owners, and they surelly benefit from this but the rest of webmasters just fail to realize that this way they actually giving up their possible earning to TGP owners.

Why to do not post only discrete pics? Only the beginning of the set, with the last pic with the girl starting to take off her panties?

Free porn's goal is to make the surfer sign up. But with the current situation free porn is just a charity or a measure to sell something else - like penis enlargement or fake vaginas...

I'd say it's just stupid, but noone can beat the market. This business model will die only when it becomes totally unprofitable.

[Nicky]

yea to much free porn, but what concerns me most is all the free hardcore porn and all the free big quality movies.....

[Shoehorn!]

Originally posted by zentz
it would be nice if all webmasters would made a deal to decrease amount of free porn provided on net...

Yeah, that would be a nice deal. Or at least not offer so much free hardcore, just enough to get the surfer interested and wanting more.

[hoe_vender]

Yes I think there is

[hova]

Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom


Yeah, that would be a nice deal. Or at least not offer so much free hardcore, just enough to get the surfer interested and wanting more.

Amen, I dont think there is to much free porn but there is way to much free HARDCORE porn available. I can seriously not understand why anybody would signup for a site, because everything you can like you can find for free.

But the problem is that a lot of webmasters dont think about the future. It would be great if all webmasters would made a deal to decrease the amount of free porn (atleast hardcore porn) but I am afrraid thats impossible.

[icedemon]

From what I read, it was about free content to site owners (especially when it's talking about free content for TGPs). Not about free content to consumers.

I don't think anybody has a problem with free content to the site owners. The big problem is with all the free content that the consumers get. But this problem has been around for years now.

[Steve]

You guys complaining about reading this article, do you have pop up books at home to hold your attention?


Nice post - way better than the usual threads. On many boards.

[icedemon]

Originally posted by Steve
You guys complaining about reading this article, do you have pop up books at home to hold your attention?


Nice post - way better than the usual threads. On many boards.

This "Dan Post" guy doesn't get it though. He thinks everybody is talking about free content to webmasters. Everybody is talking about free content to consumers, not webmasters.

I don't think anybody has a problem with the paysite owners giving out free content for other site owners to use to promote their programs.

[spentrent]

"Free porn on the web" is a myth.

If you can reach a certain threshold of daily visitors to your site, you've just created a great venue for advertising. If you can't generate enough qualified traffic to be worthy to advertisers, but you feel you can't convert because of "free porn," sit down and shut up.

The gold rush for you is over. The gold rush for this n3wb is about to begin.

[Steve]

Originally posted by icedemon


This "Dan Post" guy doesn't get it though. He thinks everybody is talking about free content to webmasters. Everybody is talking about free content to consumers, not webmasters.

I don't think anybody has a problem with the paysite owners giving out free content for other site owners to use to promote their programs.

The way I read it, when he says free content, I took it to mean content that can be licensed for use on free sites + TGP galleries.

If you look at it that way, then the article is ok - if it were just referring to downloadable zips from a PPS program, it's kind of dumb. That's not going to effect people making money off of free sites and gallery work. They buy content, regularly.