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mryellow · 03-07-2004, 05:44 PM

Quote:

ok lets look at it like this. we all have a website or 2. now lets say
that your site has had this happen to it. wouldnt it be fixed by
now?

Restoring 2 TGP galleries and restoring the scripts and data used
on the xBiz site would be another matter. Depending on what
state the box is in and if the backdoor has been found, it could
be quite a nightmare with quite a lot of work to do.

As said before, stop overthinking and just wait for the site to
come up if you want to visit it. If you don't want to visit it then
who cares.

-Ben

Nysus · 03-07-2004, 05:46 PM

Hey Ben - Nice press release for Xbiz.

Cheers,
Matt

mryellow · 03-07-2004, 06:01 PM

geez u guys are wacko.... simply crazy..... devote so much time to
inventing invisible enemies. I'm just a guy posting what is
obvious. If you think I'm an xBiz shill then it just shows you are
paranoid.

I don't work for xBiz and have not been in communication with
them at all.

It's just simple.....

It's the weekend, best time to hijack I'm sure.

The server gets pounded into submission. (I'm sure xBiz DDoS'd
their own box just to upload a new index. pfft)

A page appears which is updated by a script which thus stops the
box owners putting up any kind of page of their own as it will be
replaced by the hackers script.

The backdoor for this script has probably been hidden by log
killers, is probably some kind of binary hack and could be
extremely difficult to find.

I'm pretty sure xBiz don't have the resources to simply switch to
a pre-existing backup server.

None of you have any idea just how hard it would be to restore
this site. No matter how good the backups are it'll still take a
great deal of work to get back to how it was.

This restoration work can not even start until the backdoor is
found and closed. Which could be a huge job for even a very
talented admin.

Think for a second rather than just switching to disgruntled
mode. xBiz is a webmaster resource not a fortune100. What
makes you think they have a team of admins watching their box
24/7 and an office full of people on Sunday escapes me.

-Ben

baddog · 03-07-2004, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
geez u guys are wacko.... simply crazy..... devote so much time to
inventing invisible enemies. I'm just a guy posting what is
obvious. If you think I'm an xBiz shill then it just shows you are
paranoid.

I don't work for xBiz and have not been in communication with
them at all.

It's just simple.....

It's the weekend, best time to hijack I'm sure.

The server gets pounded into submission. (I'm sure xBiz DDoS'd
their own box just to upload a new index. pfft)

A page appears which is updated by a script which thus stops the
box owners putting up any kind of page of their own as it will be
replaced by the hackers script.

The backdoor for this script has probably been hidden by log
killers, is probably some kind of binary hack and could be
extremely difficult to find.

I'm pretty sure xBiz don't have the resources to simply switch to
a pre-existing backup server.

None of you have any idea just how hard it would be to restore
this site. No matter how good the backups are it'll still take a
great deal of work to get back to how it was.

This restoration work can not even start until the backdoor is
found and closed. Which could be a huge job for even a very
talented admin.

Think for a second rather than just switching to disgruntled
mode. xBiz is a webmaster resource not a fortune100. What
makes you think they have a team of admins watching their box
24/7 and an office full of people on Sunday escapes me.

-Ben

stop making so much sense, this is GFY

makefuckingmoney · 03-07-2004, 07:14 PM

Did their whois get changed?

I havent bothered to look

pimplink · 03-07-2004, 07:18 PM

Cheers!!!!! ya da!

dig420 · 03-07-2004, 07:20 PM

Xbiz and the whole Helmy company are first rate. This isn't something they would do for publicity. They're not that stupid.

Gothbox · 03-07-2004, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeSea
I know just as much as everyone else right now. I get the same page as everyone else. I am not a spokesperson for XBiz, I am the board hostess. I am hoping things will be back as soon as possible. This is Sunday you know.

Well even if you are just the board hostess arent you just a bit curious as to whats going on? Have you not contacted Helmy or someone that might be important over there to see whats going on? Seems strange to me that the moderators havent clued in enough to be asking someone why they cant get into a place they work at.

Mr. Marks · 03-07-2004, 10:27 PM

Right on!

Dveron · 03-07-2004, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Right on!

You, my friend, are one fucking annoying sig whore. Ignore activated asshole.

mammy · 03-08-2004, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow

For those disgruntled xBiz moderators.... Guys... We don't care if
you don't like xBiz. Because they have an awesome site, with
awesome newsletters, awesome articles, and awesome forums.
We just don't care if you feel hard done by.

Think for a second on how this reflects on xBiz and their hosting
partners + sponsors and you'll quickly see there is no reason to
do any PR stunt that is so detrimental to business.

-Ben

good idea!

i think if sponsors will learn that it was pr
xbiz will have some probs with ad space

because noone can guarantee that the server will not be off for some days again

HarlotCash Dyker · 03-08-2004, 12:28 AM

100% PR -
If the site was hacked, there are plenty of guys over at x biz to put this right... Only a matter of changing passwords and the hacked files.
The message has you going back - Not just people who know about x biz, but hundreds of other's who do not know about it.

A stunt - And a very vell thought out one

baddog · 03-08-2004, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gothbox

Well even if you are just the board hostess arent you just a bit curious as to whats going on? Have you not contacted Helmy or someone that might be important over there to see whats going on? Seems strange to me that the moderators havent clued in enough to be asking someone why they cant get into a place they work at.

would you call the Netherlands if you could not get onto a board that you moderated?

mryellow · 03-08-2004, 12:41 AM

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there are plenty of guys over at x biz to put this right

Who said there was anyone at their office on Sunday?

Quote:

Only a matter of changing passwords and the hacked files.

No it's not.

You ppl need to use less crack, I'm not saying quit or anything.
Just don't smoke so much!

-Ben

baddog · 03-08-2004, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
100% PR -
If the site was hacked, there are plenty of guys over at x biz to put this right... Only a matter of changing passwords and the hacked files.
The message has you going back - Not just people who know about x biz, but hundreds of other's who do not know about it.

A stunt - And a very vell thought out one

I really doubt that . . . Alec is smarter than that

however, should I be proven wrong, and this was a stunt, contrary to your assertions, it was not very well thought out

4Pics · 03-08-2004, 02:01 AM

i say its a pr stunt

WWC · 03-08-2004, 02:12 AM

I know Xbiz was doing a whole new revamp and new design...i think it is a marketing stunt...

mark my words... there will be a new design and look of xbiz by tomorrow morning :-)

Slave Betty · 03-08-2004, 02:19 AM

If there nameservers were changed then it could take several days to get the dns info straightened out and propagated on the net.

Want to own someone ?

Hack there domain registrar account and change the nameservers.

This takes days to repair

kush · 03-08-2004, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raffi
I know Xbiz was doing a whole new revamp and new design...i think it is a marketing stunt...

mark my words... there will be a new design and look of xbiz by tomorrow morning :-)

That's a confident statement, sir.

baddog · 03-08-2004, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raffi
I know Xbiz was doing a whole new revamp and new design...i think it is a marketing stunt...

mark my words... there will be a new design and look of xbiz by tomorrow morning :-)

well, the deadline has come and gone . . . . so much for marking your words

rounders · 03-08-2004, 01:52 PM

crazy to get attention

undermyspell · 03-08-2004, 02:20 PM

well look like they're back up with a brand spanking new design...

Raven · 03-08-2004, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raffi
I know Xbiz was doing a whole new revamp and new design...i think it is a marketing stunt...

mark my words... there will be a new design and look of xbiz by tomorrow morning :-)

I think you only missed by a few hours....so consider your words marked.

bluff · 03-08-2004, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n

do you know ANYTHING about xbiz what so ever?

do you have 1 post over there?

ok.. well. i do. i know plenty of people over there, and i also know that there server admin is top notch. im TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW ITS A PR STUNT.

take my word for it.

you appear to be right in the end.

Yet, I know everything about xbiz. It was actually the first board I posted at.

baddog · 03-08-2004, 03:20 PM

have to say, I was one of the first two mods they ever had (back when it was 69spot), and I am very disappointed. I don't know that I will ever go back there

baddog · 03-08-2004, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
They're not that stupid.

I guess we learn something new every day

4Pics · 03-08-2004, 03:25 PM

guess mr yellow should be kissing ass as he was dead wrong.

webair · 03-08-2004, 03:27 PM

hmm this should get interesting, PR? i'll wait to see how it pans out, but thats not good PR anyway you look at it

baddog · 03-08-2004, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen

Ok, Paul, here's "one public statement" > "What rumors?"

Seriously, I've had a site hacked, and it took me a day to restore it

I like how the one person that did know something continued to mislead us

Ludedude · 03-08-2004, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics
guess mr yellow should be kissing ass as he was dead wrong.

Looks like you may be right.

TDF · 03-08-2004, 03:29 PM

very very lame stunt

PMGames · 03-08-2004, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
have to say, I was one of the first two mods they ever had (back when it was 69spot), and I am very disappointed. I don't know that I will ever go back there

ditto.

Doctor Dre · 03-08-2004, 03:35 PM

Is it me or xbiz main page don't look like usual ?

Holly · 03-08-2004, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Is it me or xbiz main page don't look like usual ?

It's just you. Looks exactly the same to everyone else.

baddog · 03-08-2004, 03:48 PM

why do I find this funny?

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llabtaem · 03-08-2004, 03:56 PM

That video on the front page "Breaking News" is pretty cool though

princess · 03-08-2004, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

I like how the one person that did know something continued to mislead us

and one that gave her opinion that worked there for 3 years and knows how things work was acused of having beef with them.

such a shame

schiz · 03-08-2004, 05:19 PM

This is fun!

mryellow · 03-08-2004, 05:49 PM

Dead wrong?

If it was a PR stunt then I still stand my ground and say that it's a
bloody stupid way to get PR.

[sarcasm]
I know if I wanted some PR the first thing I'd do is delete every
single file from my server. I'd remove my sponsors banners who
pre-pay. I'd remove all incoming links from syndicated sites. I'd
make sure SE spiders see 404 instead of the thousands of pages
I've got listed. I'd take down everything. That's the best way to
get PR. The only way.
[/sarcasm]

-Ben

stocktrader23 · 03-08-2004, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
Dead wrong?

If it was a PR stunt then I still stand my ground and say that it's a
bloody stupid way to get PR.

[sarcasm]
I know if I wanted some PR the first thing I'd do is delete every
single file from my server. I'd remove my sponsors banners who
pre-pay. I'd remove all incoming links from syndicated sites. I'd
make sure SE spiders see 404 instead of the thousands of pages
I've got listed. I'd take down everything. That's the best way to
get PR. The only way.
[/sarcasm]

-Ben

Vendzilla

Moderator
Shasta Lake, Ca USA
Posts: 3996
Registered: Feb 2003
The fake hack was fun to decode, the last line represented all the people that worked on the new design!!

__________________

Steve · 03-08-2004, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
You ppl need to use less crack, I'm not saying quit or anything.
Just don't smoke so much!

mryellow · 03-08-2004, 06:12 PM

Quote:

originally posted by baddog
I really doubt that . . . Alec is smarter than that

however, should I be proven wrong, and this was a
stunt, contrary to your assertions, it was not very
well thought out

Quote:

originally posted by dig420
Xbiz and the whole Helmy company are first rate. This
isn't something they would do for publicity. They're
not that stupid.

Well if xBiz is going to use my support and good name to trade
PR then they can get fucked in a big way.

Fuckin hahahahas.

-Ben

mryellow · 03-08-2004, 06:24 PM

Sorry if I doubted you Brand0n

xBiz are a shitty stuggling board who thinks very little of their users.

Can't blame me for thinking they were better than that.

But they are not..... they are on the very bottom of my list now.

-Ben

beemk · 03-08-2004, 06:28 PM

i think so too

funkmaster · 03-08-2004, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
Sorry if I doubted you Brand0n

xBiz are a shitty stuggling board who thinks very little of their users.

Can't blame me for thinking they were better than that.

But they are not..... they are on the very bottom of my list now.

-Ben

... well spoken, btw: they are back, if anyone cares !!

SoundMan · 03-08-2004, 06:35 PM

dont care.. short lasted stunt.

03-07-2004, 05:46 PM	#52
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	Hey Ben - Nice press release for Xbiz. Cheers, Matt __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html

03-07-2004, 06:01 PM	#53
mryellow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 934	geez u guys are wacko.... simply crazy..... devote so much time to inventing invisible enemies. I'm just a guy posting what is obvious. If you think I'm an xBiz shill then it just shows you are paranoid. I don't work for xBiz and have not been in communication with them at all. It's just simple..... It's the weekend, best time to hijack I'm sure. The server gets pounded into submission. (I'm sure xBiz DDoS'd their own box just to upload a new index. pfft) A page appears which is updated by a script which thus stops the box owners putting up any kind of page of their own as it will be replaced by the hackers script. The backdoor for this script has probably been hidden by log killers, is probably some kind of binary hack and could be extremely difficult to find. I'm pretty sure xBiz don't have the resources to simply switch to a pre-existing backup server. None of you have any idea just how hard it would be to restore this site. No matter how good the backups are it'll still take a great deal of work to get back to how it was. This restoration work can not even start until the backdoor is found and closed. Which could be a huge job for even a very talented admin. Think for a second rather than just switching to disgruntled mode. xBiz is a webmaster resource not a fortune100. What makes you think they have a team of admins watching their box 24/7 and an office full of people on Sunday escapes me. -Ben __________________ Cyberwurx Hosting After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best. Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime. Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks. <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

03-07-2004, 07:18 PM	#56
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03-08-2004, 12:28 AM	#62
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03-08-2004, 02:12 AM	#67
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03-07-2004, 07:14 PM	#55
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	Did their whois get changed? I havent bothered to look

03-07-2004, 07:20 PM	#57
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Xbiz and the whole Helmy company are first rate. This isn't something they would do for publicity. They're not that stupid.

03-07-2004, 10:27 PM	#59
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Right on!

03-08-2004, 02:01 AM	#66
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	i say its a pr stunt

03-08-2004, 02:19 AM	#68
Slave Betty Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 41	If there nameservers were changed then it could take several days to get the dns info straightened out and propagated on the net. Want to own someone ? Hack there domain registrar account and change the nameservers. This takes days to repair __________________ Slave Betty<br><a href=http://cheriemontana.com><img src=http://www.cherrymontana.com/pubimg/sigbutt001.jpg><br>http://cheriemontana.com</a>

03-08-2004, 01:52 PM	#71
rounders Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: p0rn0stars & h0es Posts: 2,931	crazy to get attention __________________ ICQ#: 153923840

03-08-2004, 02:20 PM	#72
undermyspell Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 875	well look like they're back up with a brand spanking new design...

03-08-2004, 03:20 PM	#75
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	have to say, I was one of the first two mods they ever had (back when it was 69spot), and I am very disappointed. I don't know that I will ever go back there

03-08-2004, 03:25 PM	#77
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	guess mr yellow should be kissing ass as he was dead wrong.

03-08-2004, 03:27 PM	#78
webair Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 8,531	hmm this should get interesting, PR? i'll wait to see how it pans out, but thats not good PR anyway you look at it __________________ ~ Webair Dedicated Cloud Servers™ ~ WEBAIR VSYS™ Virtual Hosting Platform ~ Superior CDN Network ~ ~ Managed Dedicated hosting Specialists ~ DISCOUNT DOMAIN NAMES! ~ WEBAIR FUSION IO MANAGED CLOUD SERVERS! ~ *ICQ:* 243116321 - *TWITTER* - @WEBAIRINC - E-Mail: [email protected] Last edited by webair; 03-08-2004 at 03:29 PM..

03-08-2004, 03:29 PM	#81
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	very very lame stunt __________________ Sig heil

03-08-2004, 03:48 PM	#85
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	why do I find this funny? Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (61) in /data/web/xbiz/cust01/www-vbulletin/admin/db_mysql.php3 on line 40 There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser. An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also contact if the problem persists. We apologise for any inconvenience.

03-08-2004, 03:56 PM	#86
llabtaem Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 969	That video on the front page "Breaking News" is pretty cool though

03-08-2004, 05:19 PM	#88
schiz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Middle of a cornfield Posts: 1,103	This is fun!

03-08-2004, 05:49 PM	#89
mryellow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 934	Dead wrong? If it was a PR stunt then I still stand my ground and say that it's a bloody stupid way to get PR. [sarcasm] I know if I wanted some PR the first thing I'd do is delete every single file from my server. I'd remove my sponsors banners who pre-pay. I'd remove all incoming links from syndicated sites. I'd make sure SE spiders see 404 instead of the thousands of pages I've got listed. I'd take down everything. That's the best way to get PR. The only way. [/sarcasm] -Ben __________________ Cyberwurx Hosting After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best. Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime. Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks. <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

03-08-2004, 06:24 PM	#93
mryellow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 934	Sorry if I doubted you Brand0n xBiz are a shitty stuggling board who thinks very little of their users. Can't blame me for thinking they were better than that. But they are not..... they are on the very bottom of my list now. -Ben __________________ Cyberwurx Hosting After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best. Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime. Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks. <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

03-08-2004, 06:28 PM	#94
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	i think so too __________________ I host with Vacares

03-08-2004, 06:35 PM	#96
SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	dont care.. short lasted stunt.