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mryellow 03-07-2004 05:44 PM

Quote:

ok lets look at it like this. we all have a website or 2. now lets say
that your site has had this happen to it. wouldnt it be fixed by
now?
Restoring 2 TGP galleries and restoring the scripts and data used
on the xBiz site would be another matter. Depending on what
state the box is in and if the backdoor has been found, it could
be quite a nightmare with quite a lot of work to do.

As said before, stop overthinking and just wait for the site to
come up if you want to visit it. If you don't want to visit it then
who cares.

-Ben

Nysus 03-07-2004 05:46 PM

Hey Ben - Nice press release for Xbiz. :Graucho

:thumbsup

Cheers,
Matt

mryellow 03-07-2004 06:01 PM

geez u guys are wacko.... simply crazy..... devote so much time to
inventing invisible enemies. I'm just a guy posting what is
obvious. If you think I'm an xBiz shill then it just shows you are
paranoid.

I don't work for xBiz and have not been in communication with
them at all.

It's just simple.....

It's the weekend, best time to hijack I'm sure.

The server gets pounded into submission. (I'm sure xBiz DDoS'd
their own box just to upload a new index. pfft)

A page appears which is updated by a script which thus stops the
box owners putting up any kind of page of their own as it will be
replaced by the hackers script.

The backdoor for this script has probably been hidden by log
killers, is probably some kind of binary hack and could be
extremely difficult to find.

I'm pretty sure xBiz don't have the resources to simply switch to
a pre-existing backup server.

None of you have any idea just how hard it would be to restore
this site. No matter how good the backups are it'll still take a
great deal of work to get back to how it was.

This restoration work can not even start until the backdoor is
found and closed. Which could be a huge job for even a very
talented admin.

Think for a second rather than just switching to disgruntled
mode. xBiz is a webmaster resource not a fortune100. What
makes you think they have a team of admins watching their box
24/7 and an office full of people on Sunday escapes me.

-Ben

baddog 03-07-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
geez u guys are wacko.... simply crazy..... devote so much time to
inventing invisible enemies. I'm just a guy posting what is
obvious. If you think I'm an xBiz shill then it just shows you are
paranoid.

I don't work for xBiz and have not been in communication with
them at all.

It's just simple.....

It's the weekend, best time to hijack I'm sure.

The server gets pounded into submission. (I'm sure xBiz DDoS'd
their own box just to upload a new index. pfft)

A page appears which is updated by a script which thus stops the
box owners putting up any kind of page of their own as it will be
replaced by the hackers script.

The backdoor for this script has probably been hidden by log
killers, is probably some kind of binary hack and could be
extremely difficult to find.

I'm pretty sure xBiz don't have the resources to simply switch to
a pre-existing backup server.

None of you have any idea just how hard it would be to restore
this site. No matter how good the backups are it'll still take a
great deal of work to get back to how it was.

This restoration work can not even start until the backdoor is
found and closed. Which could be a huge job for even a very
talented admin.

Think for a second rather than just switching to disgruntled
mode. xBiz is a webmaster resource not a fortune100. What
makes you think they have a team of admins watching their box
24/7 and an office full of people on Sunday escapes me.

-Ben

stop making so much sense, this is GFY :1orglaugh

makefuckingmoney 03-07-2004 07:14 PM

Did their whois get changed?

I havent bothered to look

pimplink 03-07-2004 07:18 PM

Cheers!!!!! ya da!

dig420 03-07-2004 07:20 PM

Xbiz and the whole Helmy company are first rate. This isn't something they would do for publicity. They're not that stupid.

Gothbox 03-07-2004 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SeeSea
I know just as much as everyone else right now. I get the same page as everyone else. I am not a spokesperson for XBiz, I am the board hostess. I am hoping things will be back as soon as possible. This is Sunday you know.
Well even if you are just the board hostess arent you just a bit curious as to whats going on? Have you not contacted Helmy or someone that might be important over there to see whats going on? Seems strange to me that the moderators havent clued in enough to be asking someone why they cant get into a place they work at.

Mr. Marks 03-07-2004 10:27 PM

Right on!

Dveron 03-07-2004 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by papichulo
Right on!
You, my friend, are one fucking annoying sig whore. Ignore activated asshole.

mammy 03-08-2004 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow


For those disgruntled xBiz moderators.... Guys... We don't care if
you don't like xBiz. Because they have an awesome site, with
awesome newsletters, awesome articles, and awesome forums.
We just don't care if you feel hard done by.

Think for a second on how this reflects on xBiz and their hosting
partners + sponsors and you'll quickly see there is no reason to
do any PR stunt that is so detrimental to business.

-Ben



good idea!


i think if sponsors will learn that it was pr
xbiz will have some probs with ad space

because noone can guarantee that the server will not be off for some days again

HarlotCash Dyker 03-08-2004 12:28 AM

100% PR -
If the site was hacked, there are plenty of guys over at x biz to put this right... Only a matter of changing passwords and the hacked files.
The message has you going back - Not just people who know about x biz, but hundreds of other's who do not know about it.

A stunt - And a very vell thought out one:thumbsup

baddog 03-08-2004 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gothbox


Well even if you are just the board hostess arent you just a bit curious as to whats going on? Have you not contacted Helmy or someone that might be important over there to see whats going on? Seems strange to me that the moderators havent clued in enough to be asking someone why they cant get into a place they work at.

would you call the Netherlands if you could not get onto a board that you moderated?

mryellow 03-08-2004 12:41 AM

Quote:

there are plenty of guys over at x biz to put this right
Who said there was anyone at their office on Sunday?

Quote:

Only a matter of changing passwords and the hacked files.
No it's not.

You ppl need to use less crack, I'm not saying quit or anything.
Just don't smoke so much!

-Ben

baddog 03-08-2004 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
100% PR -
If the site was hacked, there are plenty of guys over at x biz to put this right... Only a matter of changing passwords and the hacked files.
The message has you going back - Not just people who know about x biz, but hundreds of other's who do not know about it.

A stunt - And a very vell thought out one:thumbsup

I really doubt that . . . Alec is smarter than that :2 cents:

however, should I be proven wrong, and this was a stunt, contrary to your assertions, it was not very well thought out

4Pics 03-08-2004 02:01 AM

i say its a pr stunt

WWC 03-08-2004 02:12 AM

I know Xbiz was doing a whole new revamp and new design...i think it is a marketing stunt...

mark my words... there will be a new design and look of xbiz by tomorrow morning :-)

Slave Betty 03-08-2004 02:19 AM

If there nameservers were changed then it could take several days to get the dns info straightened out and propagated on the net.

Want to own someone ?

Hack there domain registrar account and change the nameservers.

This takes days to repair

kush 03-08-2004 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raffi
I know Xbiz was doing a whole new revamp and new design...i think it is a marketing stunt...

mark my words... there will be a new design and look of xbiz by tomorrow morning :-)

That's a confident statement, sir.

baddog 03-08-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raffi
I know Xbiz was doing a whole new revamp and new design...i think it is a marketing stunt...

mark my words... there will be a new design and look of xbiz by tomorrow morning :-)

well, the deadline has come and gone . . . . so much for marking your words

rounders 03-08-2004 01:52 PM

crazy to get attention

undermyspell 03-08-2004 02:20 PM

well look like they're back up with a brand spanking new design... :winkwink:

Raven 03-08-2004 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raffi
I know Xbiz was doing a whole new revamp and new design...i think it is a marketing stunt...

mark my words... there will be a new design and look of xbiz by tomorrow morning :-)

I think you only missed by a few hours....so consider your words marked. :)

bluff 03-08-2004 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n


do you know ANYTHING about xbiz what so ever?

do you have 1 post over there?

ok.. well. i do. i know plenty of people over there, and i also know that there server admin is top notch. im TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW ITS A PR STUNT.

take my word for it.

you appear to be right in the end.

Yet, I know everything about xbiz. It was actually the first board I posted at.

baddog 03-08-2004 03:20 PM

have to say, I was one of the first two mods they ever had (back when it was 69spot), and I am very disappointed. I don't know that I will ever go back there

baddog 03-08-2004 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
They're not that stupid.
I guess we learn something new every day

4Pics 03-08-2004 03:25 PM

guess mr yellow should be kissing ass as he was dead wrong.

webair 03-08-2004 03:27 PM

hmm this should get interesting, PR? i'll wait to see how it pans out, but thats not good PR anyway you look at it :glugglug

baddog 03-08-2004 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen


Ok, Paul, here's "one public statement" > "What rumors?"

Seriously, I've had a site hacked, and it took me a day to restore it

I like how the one person that did know something continued to mislead us

Ludedude 03-08-2004 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics
guess mr yellow should be kissing ass as he was dead wrong.
:1orglaugh Looks like you may be right.

TDF 03-08-2004 03:29 PM

very very lame stunt

PMGames 03-08-2004 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog
have to say, I was one of the first two mods they ever had (back when it was 69spot), and I am very disappointed. I don't know that I will ever go back there

ditto. :)

Doctor Dre 03-08-2004 03:35 PM

Is it me or xbiz main page don't look like usual ?

Holly 03-08-2004 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Is it me or xbiz main page don't look like usual ?
It's just you. Looks exactly the same to everyone else.

baddog 03-08-2004 03:48 PM

why do I find this funny?

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llabtaem 03-08-2004 03:56 PM

That video on the front page "Breaking News" is pretty cool though :)

princess 03-08-2004 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog


I like how the one person that did know something continued to mislead us

and one that gave her opinion that worked there for 3 years and knows how things work was acused of having beef with them.

such a shame :(

schiz 03-08-2004 05:19 PM

This is fun!

mryellow 03-08-2004 05:49 PM

Dead wrong?

If it was a PR stunt then I still stand my ground and say that it's a
bloody stupid way to get PR.

[sarcasm]
I know if I wanted some PR the first thing I'd do is delete every
single file from my server. I'd remove my sponsors banners who
pre-pay. I'd remove all incoming links from syndicated sites. I'd
make sure SE spiders see 404 instead of the thousands of pages
I've got listed. I'd take down everything. That's the best way to
get PR. The only way.
[/sarcasm]

-Ben

stocktrader23 03-08-2004 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
Dead wrong?

If it was a PR stunt then I still stand my ground and say that it's a
bloody stupid way to get PR.

[sarcasm]
I know if I wanted some PR the first thing I'd do is delete every
single file from my server. I'd remove my sponsors banners who
pre-pay. I'd remove all incoming links from syndicated sites. I'd
make sure SE spiders see 404 instead of the thousands of pages
I've got listed. I'd take down everything. That's the best way to
get PR. The only way.
[/sarcasm]

-Ben


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The fake hack was fun to decode, the last line represented all the people that worked on the new design!!


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Steve 03-08-2004 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
You ppl need to use less crack, I'm not saying quit or anything.
Just don't smoke so much!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

mryellow 03-08-2004 06:12 PM

Quote:

originally posted by baddog
I really doubt that . . . Alec is smarter than that

however, should I be proven wrong, and this was a
stunt, contrary to your assertions, it was not very
well thought out
Quote:

originally posted by dig420
Xbiz and the whole Helmy company are first rate. This
isn't something they would do for publicity. They're
not that stupid.

Well if xBiz is going to use my support and good name to trade
PR then they can get fucked in a big way.

Fuckin hahahahas.

-Ben

mryellow 03-08-2004 06:24 PM

Sorry if I doubted you Brand0n

xBiz are a shitty stuggling board who thinks very little of their users.

Can't blame me for thinking they were better than that.

But they are not..... they are on the very bottom of my list now.

-Ben

beemk 03-08-2004 06:28 PM

i think so too

funkmaster 03-08-2004 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mryellow
Sorry if I doubted you Brand0n

xBiz are a shitty stuggling board who thinks very little of their users.

Can't blame me for thinking they were better than that.

But they are not..... they are on the very bottom of my list now.

-Ben

... well spoken, btw: they are back, if anyone cares !!

SoundMan 03-08-2004 06:35 PM

dont care.. short lasted stunt.


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