| Bulldog-Johnnie |
03-17-2004 11:16 PM |
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Originally posted by dig420
yeah I'm sure there's a demand from every fucking redneck with a backyard (or a fight pit) and an inferiority complex. If you have ever bothered to read up on the Pit, you would know already that they CANNOT be used as guard dogs. You can train them to attack, but you can't train them to reliably STOP attacking, and their temprament is such that if you encourage to attack some person they're a permanent danger to attack ANY person. Pits make good protection at home because they're smart enough to recognize the difference between an intruder and a friend most of the time. They are not trainable for guard duty like a German Shephard, for example.
If you're not responsible enough to neuter your dogs and you're SELLING them for 100 each - and you know what these dogs will be mostly used for - you really, really don't deserve to have your dogs. You're not responsible enough now, probably never will be.
I don't know what I'm talking about? You need to read up on the terrible problems facing this breed mostly created by backyard breeders like you. Don't position yourself as some kind of PB loving guy, you're not.
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Dig I hope and pray ignorance like your's is not contagious. If it is, we are all in some serious trouble. It is well known that the American Pit Bull terrier is not a suitable guard dog, but not for any of the reasons you have said. I have personally tried to use APBT's in Schutzhund training and although their work and prey drive are excellent they fall short in several areas. First off, size is a primary consideration. A well bred adult male APBT should be anywhere from 35-50 lbs on average. Before any of you "experts" chime in I said on average. A suitable guard dog needs to have enough size to take his traget down quickly, and although I have no doubt a good dog will out work any man taht is not the object and the APBT does not have the heft to get their target down. Secondly their fighting history has influenced their behavior so that they are less than desireable for that type of work. Not because they are overly aggressive but the complete opposite. These dogs have been selectively bred for the pit for over a hundred years. In order for the dog to a good pit dog he has to be handled several times a day usually by diffrent people for as long as 8 weeks before a match. Once in the match, if the dog shows any human aggression he ususally put down immediately. He can't be conecntrating on anything except his opponent, otherwise he would get killed therefore any dogs who would lose concentration or be focused on the people around them would never live long enough to be bred. This has been done since the beginning so there is very little chance of them being human aggressive, which would preclude them from guard work.
APBT's are some of, if not the most trainable of dogs. Their heritage dictates that they do not lose concentration, they have stable temprements, and will not react aggressively if frightened or injured. Diane Jeesup, author of "The Working Pit Bull" and other books dealing with the APBT owns the most titled working dog in history- CH Bandog Dead. Not only does he have a Schutzhund III title but he also has Therapy dog, Canine Good Citizen, Utillity Dog, Agility and even a herding title! Your assertions that the dog cannot be "called off" or "recovered" are as preposterous as they are ignorant.
I have been breeding APBT's for almost 20 years (I have over 100 dogs and keep 5 in the house all the time) and my dogs have been victimized over and over yet have never shown any agression to people. I have had dogs shot, poisoned, dragged to their death behind a truck, burned alive and harassed in every way imagineable. I think the biggest problem is taxonomy. Most people wouldn't know an APBT if it was sitting in their lap. For the most part they on the smaller size of medium sized dogs, wirey, long legged, flat sided ribs with the ever prominent wedge shaped head. Over the years people have been breeding what they think a PitBull should be, but through indiscirminant breeding, and poor documentation ended breeding an entirely different type of dog that is often passed off for an APBT. Most people have seen them with the giant bucket heads, barrel chested, big heavy boned dogs often wieghing in excess of 80 lbs.
I know I will not change many opinions but I am hopeful that if I continue to be a good steward of thses animals who I have devoted my entire life to, maybe I might change a couple and that's enough for me. |
