fuck you all

I might not know everything about your region's history, but do explain to me in what way _ISRAEL_ is a country?
If I am not mistaken the territories that make up Israel, Jordan and the like were owned by Britain, and declared as the "Jewish Homeland" in 1919 by in Versailles after WWI. It was still agreed upon that the non-jewish people living there should still remain there unharmed and should not be moved away!

Then the Jews deceided they want their own country after WWII and just took it.

I have nothing against Jews, but please, you people STOLE the friggin thing and noone did anything about it.

why don't you blame the "fucking governments" that hate you? as you say, many people already hate you. Israel is a friend of the US, so why are you blaming Israel, blame your enemies...
ever though of it this way?

in this case, the people who immigrated into america and are called "americans" today have stoled the friggin thing from the indians.
Israel is a legalized state, it was decided in a democratic vote in the United Nations. The jews had a right over Israel, historical right, that's why it was agreed to establish a jewish state in Israel.

you wish that, don't you? sorry to tell you this fella, but it ain't gonna happen...
Israel has the military power to destroy the whole middle east if necessary

Did I ever say that the americans did not steal their land? Why do you think they support you?

HUGE areas of the US was not used by indians though. Arabs were all over "your country" when it was "democtratically voted" in the UN after you caused a friggin war to get the land. They gave you some and you continue to want more and more and more, how is that a good thing? You keep hiding behind the UN and keep saying "but look, they ok'd it" but never have real arguments why it SHOULD be yours, except that you had it 1000 years ago. Should Germany get all of its German Empire back just because they once had it a few hundred years ago? NO, they LOST it, as did YOU. You had the british help you get it back and then figured out loop holes to make it look legit why you should keep it and started a war to underline that fact.

YOU are the agressors there, never forget that. YOU invaded their lands first after you had no real rights there for 100 or more years.

how about the holocaust? 6,000,000 jews who died in the concentration camps are not a real right to establish a jewish land?

I know that the topic is not as easy as I make it sound, it is a very complicated thing and many many things happened in your region over the past 400 or so years, but Israel has to stop acting like the "poor Jews who are always attacked by everyone".

I can not understand how you people really think what you are doing is CORRECT. It scares me that such an aggressive country has Nukes.

Because some stupid ASSHOLE ordered to kill 6 million jews you should be allowed to STEAL LAND in return?? Where's your point here? Obviously killing all these jews was madness, but how does this make it CORRECT for you to steal land from Arab Nations? Its not their fault that so many got killed, is it?

I might be able to accept that it is ok to give you Land to develop your own Nation on to protect your people and the jewish culture. But do this on a peice of Land _EVERYONE_ can agree on, and stop invading Land in disputed regions... Whats the POINT in pissing of people by building houses in regions which many places beleive should be owned and governed by palestine? Do you just WANT to piss everyone off and cause more attacks? Because this is clearly what it looks like.

I think you should know also, that zionist jews were comming to Israel since the 30's and they learned to live even peacfully with the arabs here, and bought their lands (for money), so that contradicts your "stealing" theory... when Israel was established in 1948, everything was ready here. there were cities, hospitals, everything.....


really, I can understand you, because your lack of knowledge about the history of this place brings you to certein thoughts that are untrue. I suggest you read a little more about it, really. I'm not saying this to make you mad, but because this is really how I see it... and I want to say that you're one of the few people who has totally opposite thoughts about the whole Israeli issue then I do, and I can actually discuss it with you in a decent manner

I know that you came before 1948, Britain had the land for ages as far as I remember and gave it to you in or around 1920 to settle there. But in the agreement it was said that non-jews should be able to STILL LIVE THERE. You _OBVIOUSLY_ are not allowing this anymore. You might have bought land there in the beginning, but that does not make it YOUR STATE. If I go to the US and buy a forst, can I make it Nathan-Land? No, I can't, I would have to start a war to make it that, and you did that, you can't really say you didn't can you? :) You started a war to get what YOU think was yours, and the UN was stupid enough to just ok it and give it to you. You then basically said "fuck the rest, the UN said its ok" and just ignored the Balfour Declartion which states:

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

You notice the "nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine"?! Now of course, you are starting legal-babbel shit explaining why the settlements are legal by claiming that the above actually means that the declaration says you own it and the non-jews do not just because it says "establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people" as if that means you OWN friggin Palestine. Can you please explain to me how the above means that? It just says that you may settle in the land since it should be your national home, but that it does not mean you can just take away from the people already there.

The fact that Jordan and Egypt conquered parts of that territory just shows that they did not agree with the way you handled it after the british left.

Sorry, but I might not know everything about Israel's history, but I know this: you fucked it up for yourself by being a bully in the Arab region. Whether it was once yours or not, when you GOT it it was _NOT YOURS TO HAVE_, you conquered it and are now pissed that the Arabs are pissed at you, what the HECK did you expect?! That they love you for taking their land?

ok,
your first mistake: out of around 6 million citizens, around 1.5 million are muslims, palestinian arabs, who have Israeli citizenship. that's a lot of non-jews. and they enjoy full rights just like every jewish citizen, as it should be done in a democratic state.

your second mistake: Israel did not start a war. The UN said that a certein part of the land would be given to Israel, and another part (the bigger part) woud be given to the palestinians. The palestinians didn't accept this decision, and with the help of arab countries around Israel (Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon) started a war on Israel in 1948. Israel won the war.

Kerry is a better choice for Americans and for Israelis than Bush in 2004.

maybe, I must admit, I don't know much about him

except that he has jewish roots, and a few of his family members died in the holocaust

How about the 10's and 100's of millions of European peoples who have died for their respective nations, for them to be taken over freely by droves of Arabs and Blacks?

While Bush's family profited from the holocaust:

Newsweek Polska, the magazine?s Polish edition, published a short piece on the ?Bush Nazi past? in its March 5, 2003 edition. The item reported that ?the Bush family reaped rewards from the forced-labor prisoners in the Auschwitz concentration camp,? according to a copyrighted English-language translation from Scoop Media (www.scoop.co.nz). The story also reported the seizure of the various Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0306/S00055.htm