Medium Pimpin to MOVE OFF THE MPA2 System! - GoFuckYourself.com

mailman · 03-05-2004, 07:52 PM

Medium Pimpin Program Announcement
Heads up to all Medium Pimpin Affiliates,

As you know, we use the MPA2 program, within the next week or so, we will be migrating to a new program.

All individual MPA2 links codes will be automatically redirected utilizing Apache's mod_rewrite function, therefore, you will not need to change any link codes or
hosted galleries you currently have live. This will remain in effect permanently.

All current webmaster data will be imported into the new program, including all rebills.

There should only be two things that will affect you as a webmaster during the migration:

1) You will potentially have to login with your webmaster code
(i.e.,100000) versus your username.

2) While all current MPA2 links will be redirected to your new MP link code automatically, it will be best for you to use the new link codes for all new links you create going forward. These will be available on the MP site once we launch in the coming days.

All payouts will continue to be paid out by us on time as always.

We have been working diligently over the last 30 days to get this right, and make it as seamless as possible for you, our valued webmasters.

We also have major re-designs, new sites and plenty of new things ready to go, we have held back until we had the MPA2 issue resolved.

Look for big things coming very, soon!

If you have any questions please let us know.

jact · 03-05-2004, 07:53 PM

The new system is going to be schweeeeeeeeeet.

Platinumpimp · 03-05-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mailman
Medium Pimpin Program Announcement
Heads up to all Medium Pimpin Affiliates,

As you know, we use the MPA2 program, within the next week or so, we will be migrating to a new program.

All individual MPA2 links codes will be automatically redirected utilizing Apache's mod_rewrite function, therefore, you will not need to change any link codes or
hosted galleries you currently have live. This will remain in effect permanently.

All current webmaster data will be imported into the new program, including all rebills.

There should only be two things that will affect you as a webmaster during the migration:

1) You will potentially have to login with your webmaster code
(i.e.,100000) versus your username.

2) While all current MPA2 links will be redirected to your new MP link code automatically, it will be best for you to use the new link codes for all new links you create going forward. These will be available on the MP site once we launch in the coming days.

All payouts will continue to be paid out by us on time as always.

We have been working diligently over the last 30 days to get this right, and make it as seamless as possible for you, our valued webmasters.

We also have major re-designs, new sites and plenty of new things ready to go, we have held back until we had the MPA2 issue resolved.

Look for big things coming very, soon!

If you have any questions please let us know.

a very wise decision

fuzebox · 03-05-2004, 07:56 PM

These poor MPA2 guys... As if it's so hard to shave using any other affiliate backend.

doober · 03-05-2004, 07:57 PM

will this become a new mpa sponsor trend?

Vitasoy · 03-05-2004, 07:58 PM

Phew, glad I don't need to change my old refer codes

Spunky · 03-05-2004, 07:59 PM

Is this why we haven't been getting our weekly galleries?..or you just don't have any to update with?

greentea · 03-05-2004, 08:00 PM

You know your going to pick up a ton of NEW affiliates from this thread.

AcidMax · 03-05-2004, 08:02 PM

Another one bites the dust. Pretty soon all the MPA2 hype will be gone, they wont be able to give the shit away.

03-05-2004, 08:02 PM

Will this affect webmaster referral revenue in any way? In other words, will I still be making money off of the webmasters I referred while you were using MPA2?

MediumPimpin · 03-05-2004, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by spunky1
Is this why we haven't been getting our weekly galleries?..or you just don't have any to update with?

We have been slower then normal, but we are now back on track.

We added over 40 on Tuesday we are over 1500 total right now.

mailman · 03-05-2004, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzebox
These poor MPA2 guys... As if it's so hard to shave using any other affiliate backend.

well what ever the case we run a 100% legit company

people can make there own decisions but when we had MPA2 put it we had them remove the shave feature becasue we have no use for it, but with all this shit that has been following programs using them we will be the first to get off before the boat sinks!

MediumPimpin · 03-05-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by evildick
Will this affect webmaster referral revenue in any way? In other words, will I still be making money off of the webmasters I referred while you were using MPA2?

We had the data merged no worries, it will be the same.

CDSmith · 03-05-2004, 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by fuzebox
These poor MPA2 guys... As if it's so hard to shave using any other affiliate backend.

Fuck em.

Anyone who writes software for paysites that includes a built-in shave function ought to be shot, pissed on and bitch slapped, not necessarily in that order. Fucking retards get what they deserve as far as I'm concerned.

If a fucker can't see that shaving is wrong, that fucker is a retard.

mailman · 03-05-2004, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Fuck em.

Anyone who writes software for paysites that includes a built-in shave function ought to be shot, pissed on and bitch slapped, not necessarily in that order. Fucking retards get what they deserve as far as I'm concerned.

If a fucker can't see that shaving is wrong, that fucker is a retard.

so true but the program looked solid and thats why were were game IF the shave feature would be removed.. they removed it and we jumped right on board.. but again why anyone would write that into their SW is beyond me only makes you look bad!

zzgundamnzz · 03-05-2004, 08:07 PM

Glad I don't have to change my galleries ref codes

AcidMax · 03-05-2004, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mailman

well what ever the case we run a 100% legit company

people can make there own decisions but when we had MPA2 put it we had them remove the shave feature becasue we have no use for it, but with all this shit that has been following programs using them we will be the first to get off before the boat sinks!

To be honest, It is nice to see programs take responsibility for their actions. They understand that they want to do something good for their affiliates and get off some shitty software running their sites.

I have been programming in adult since 1998 and was writing cascading billing software since about 1999. There was a lot of hype about MPA 2 and yet in vegas I heard more people bitching about it then praising it. I dont follow the threads, but im sorry to say you cannot just mass produce software for everyone. Content management, billing, affiliate software etc has to be scalable, configurable and modular. From the sounds of it (although I must say I have never seen the code, nor used the software myself), it seems from the people i have talked to the software just does fit the needs of most programs these days and the costs are high.

Good luck to you guys, I might even run over to your site and promote your program when you guys get the new shit going.

peace.

mailman · 03-05-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by AcidMax

Good luck to you guys, I might even run over to your site and promote your program when you guys get the new shit going.

peace.

good stuff.. let me know if you ever need anything!

natkejs · 03-05-2004, 08:10 PM

this is going to rock guys ;)

it's going to be some nifty stuff going on in the near feature along with the switch over...

MediumPimpin · 03-05-2004, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Fuck em.

Anyone who writes software for paysites that includes a built-in shave function ought to be shot, pissed on and bitch slapped, not necessarily in that order. Fucking retards get what they deserve as far as I'm concerned.

If a fucker can't see that shaving is wrong, that fucker is a retard.

We were told it was an option, we did not want it.

Once installed it was on our program we asked to have the feature removed, they were able to remove the main shave but not the shaver per webmaster, if I knew this going in I would not have used it at all.

exspamr · 03-05-2004, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Fuck em.

Anyone who writes software for paysites that includes a built-in shave function ought to be shot, pissed on and bitch slapped, not necessarily in that order. Fucking retards get what they deserve as far as I'm concerned.

If a fucker can't see that shaving is wrong, that fucker is a retard.

its common, get over it... the feature is there because there is a demand for it... the company that writes that program isnt selling it to affiliates, they are selling it to pay site owners... supply and demand... they are gonna get fucked for it now, but im sure they arent the 1st to include shaving and they wont be the last

J.R. · 03-05-2004, 08:11 PM

Medium Pimpin..

Can you contact me on ICQ please

28222409

Thanks..

stocktrader23 · 03-05-2004, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mailman

well what ever the case we run a 100% legit company

people can make there own decisions but when we had MPA2 put it we had them remove the shave feature becasue we have no use for it, but with all this shit that has been following programs using them we will be the first to get off before the boat sinks!

Just_Dave · 03-05-2004, 08:14 PM

mediumpimpin is a very solid company to deal with

heymatty · 03-05-2004, 08:17 PM

First thing the guy said to me when I spoke to him on the phone was.

'Great thing about our software is the shaving module is built right in.'

Lost me as a customer.

MediumPimpin · 03-05-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J.R.
Medium Pimpin..

Can you contact me on ICQ please

28222409

Thanks..

Tryimg to hit you up now.

mailman · 03-05-2004, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Glad I don't have to change my galleries ref codes

yeah we trying to make sure it will be an easy move!

jact · 03-05-2004, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by heymatty
First thing the guy said to me when I spoke to him on the phone was.

'Great thing about our software is the shaving module is built right in.'

Lost me as a customer.

That's very discouraging.

CDSmith · 03-05-2004, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by exspamr
its common, get over it... the feature is there because there is a demand for it... the company that writes that program isnt selling it to affiliates, they are selling it to pay site owners... supply and demand... they are gonna get fucked for it now, but im sure they arent the 1st to include shaving and they wont be the last

No, I won't get over it. Blow me. I don't need some dickwad to tell me what the fucking demand is, so please get your head out of the toilet and get a clue. This particular software company is going to take a hit, but maybe it will be a lesson to all those that pull this shit in the future...... that is *IF* webmasters like you and me are smart enough to stick together and stand up to it.

So what's it going to be. Are you going to continue to sit there telling guys like me to *get over it* or are you going to start publicly decrying these assholes like someone who maybe has an 0unce of intelligence?

Your call.

Pipecrew · 03-05-2004, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
That's very discouraging.

It's also absolute B.S

CDSmith · 03-05-2004, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MediumPimpin
We were told it was an option, we did not want it.

Once installed it was on our program we asked to have the feature removed, they were able to remove the main shave but not the shaver per webmaster, if I knew this going in I would not have used it at all.

I can understand your position, and I respect your decision to move yourselves away from this type of garbage. I know of you guys and from what I have seen your operation is straight up and about as real as it gets. Obviously some good can come out of these outtings and contraversies over shaving..... because it also brings out the more honest programs, and it hopefully causes others to rethink their shaving ways as a bonus.

Sponsors who shave WILL be caught eventually, nice to see some taking steps to prevent even the slightest misunderstanding in that regard.

Giorgio_Xo · 03-05-2004, 09:06 PM

Isn't this the third company in as many weeks to drop MPA2?

Sadly, TrueStats cost $25,000.

Oracle Porn · 03-05-2004, 10:52 PM

any mpa2 alternatives that doesn't cost an arm and a leg?

CDSmith · 03-05-2004, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Sadly, TrueStats cost $25,000.

You know, I honestly did not know that.

exspamr · 03-05-2004, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
No, I won't get over it. Blow me. I don't need some dickwad to tell me what the fucking demand is, so please get your head out of the toilet and get a clue. This particular software company is going to take a hit, but maybe it will be a lesson to all those that pull this shit in the future...... that is *IF* webmasters like you and me are smart enough to stick together and stand up to it.

So what's it going to be. Are you going to continue to sit there telling guys like me to *get over it* or are you going to start publicly decrying these assholes like someone who maybe has an 0unce of intelligence?

Your call.

like i said in another thread... sponcers shave... its a reality, ive known a lot that do and ive suspected even more of doing it... accusations come and go but the only thing you can do is compare your conversions between sponcers and see what is working for you and stick with that... i acknowledged that mpa2's makers will take a big hit for this and i know why, im just saying they made it that way because the demand was there and there will always be a way to cheat... im not saying we shouldnt out the sponcers who cheat and share that information, im just saying there shouldnt be such an outrage at the software makers for including this feature when others do it and its only there because there is a demand for it... wheres the surprise

$5 submissions · 03-05-2004, 11:03 PM

I wonder if other sponsors that use MPA2 will follow suit.

exspamr · 03-05-2004, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by $5 submissions
I wonder if other sponsors that use MPA2 will follow suit.

given the responce it would be a good idea, besides i read that mpa2 is buggy a while ago

CDSmith · 03-05-2004, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by exspamr
like i said in another thread... sponcers shave... its a reality, ive known a lot that do and ive suspected even more of doing it... accusations come and go but the only thing you can do is compare your conversions between sponcers and see what is working for you and stick with that... i acknowledged that mpa2's makers will take a big hit for this and i know why, im just saying they made it that way because the demand was there and there will always be a way to cheat... im not saying we shouldnt out the sponcers who cheat and share that information, im just saying there shouldnt be such an outrage at the software makers for including this feature when others do it and its only there because there is a demand for it... wheres the surprise

And I'm not saying there is a big surprise here. If you would read and understand what I posted you would see what my point is. There is no big surprise, but I have a fucking right to be outraged by software developers who put a way to cheat right into their programs.

I am taking this opportunity to slam the fuck out of them. Do you blame me?

Trust me, those sponsors who created that demand are far from being off the hook here, they hold much of the responsibility as well, many of them will come to pay dearly for their theivery. That's right, shaving is theft, period.

I will say it again so those of you who are hard of cognitive ability can have a shot at understanding it......

SHAVING IS THEFT

Last time I checked, theft was illegal in just about every country in the world. Penalties vary.

exspamr · 03-05-2004, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
And I'm not saying there is a big surprise here. If you would read and understand what I posted you would see what my point is. There is no big surprise, but I have a fucking right to be outraged by software developers who put a way to cheat right into their programs.

I am taking this opportunity to slam the fuck out of them. Do you blame me?

Trust me, those sponsors who created that demand are far from being off the hook here, they hold much of the responsibility as well, many of them will come to pay dearly for their theivery. That's right, shaving is theft, period.

I will say it again so those of you who are hard of cognitive ability can have a shot at understanding it......

SHAVING IS THEFT

Last time I checked, theft was illegal in just about ever country in the world. Penalties vary.

lol man, you have the right to feel how ever you want to... i was just stating my opinion... shaving is theft yes... but when someone breaks into someones car using a slimjim or a toolkit, you dont see the manufacturer of that product get indicted... anyway, if you think im getting personal with you im not, if you wanna take it that way, oh well

Rictor · 03-05-2004, 11:21 PM

Wow, this is the first I have heard of this. I was looking into that software too.

exspamr · 03-05-2004, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor
Wow, this is the first I have heard of this. I was looking into that software too.

google it, you will come accross some articles on the bugs

mailman · 03-05-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by exspamr

google it, you will come accross some articles on the bugs

bugs bugs and more bugs.... its really been a pain in the ass for us we have hand constant issues and even new programs that i know of that are using it are also having a hell of a time setting it up and do plan to follow us and move.

i am really glad we are getting this responce i figured it could have gone both ways.

thanks for the support everyone!

bluff · 03-05-2004, 11:49 PM

Bugs here, bugs there, bugs everywhere!

Axeman · 03-06-2004, 01:50 AM

Moving off the MPA2 system seems to be trend these days. Interesting.

VeriSexy · 03-06-2004, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Fuck em.

Anyone who writes software for paysites that includes a built-in shave function ought to be shot, pissed on and bitch slapped, not necessarily in that order. Fucking retards get what they deserve as far as I'm concerned.

If a fucker can't see that shaving is wrong, that fucker is a retard.

Nicely said CDSmith, I agree

WWC · 03-06-2004, 02:08 AM

Its not just the MPA program that allows you to do this. ANY program can do this unless audited by a third party. Even processors like Epoch, CCbill, Jettis, etc. can be set up to shave sponsors. At some point you have to trust a company if your going to do business with. Or else, process on your own...

Any programmer who writes an affiliate software can set this type of script to show the percentage they only want to show.

The best way for you to be assure or have some faith in a company is :

a) see the amounts they pay out. How can companies pay out $35, $45, $50 or even $75 per sign up when if an average members lets say shall convert 3 months even at $29.95, thats almost $90! And after expense, cost of operation, bandwidth, content, etc. Why would they be in this business.

b) meet the owners of affiliate programs, ask others who know them, sense how they are and if you dont feel like you can trust them, then dont do business with them! At some point you have to trust in a company. Its like us trusting third party processors like Epoch, CCbill, Jettis, etc. They also can shave, right?

c) Try multiple affiliate programs and see whose checks are getting bigger! :-) cause at end of day, your traffic will convert somewhat the same everywhere. If one affiliate your traffic is converting 1:800 and another is 1:400 to a similar niche site, then why send it to the first company.

Anyways, at some point you have to work with a company you trust, like doing business with and see that your success is growing.

Scums who shave others, will be shaved themselves in their lives at some point in time. Straight business is always good business and those are the ones who will still be around 5 years or 10 years from now.

Sincerely,

Raffi
www.AdultLounge.com

baddog · 03-06-2004, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlatinumPimp

a very wise decision

have to agree

baddog · 03-06-2004, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fuzebox
These poor MPA2 guys... As if it's so hard to shave using any other affiliate backend.

true too, but without the stigma attached to MPA2

Morgan · 03-06-2004, 02:18 AM

wouldnt affiliates be happiest if the sponsor just offered the choice to use either ccbill or epoch? either or.

rounders · 03-06-2004, 02:19 AM

Just trust your sponsors, thats really all it atkes

03-05-2004, 07:52 PM	#1
mailman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,311	Medium Pimpin to MOVE OFF THE MPA2 System! Medium Pimpin Program Announcement Heads up to all Medium Pimpin Affiliates, As you know, we use the MPA2 program, within the next week or so, we will be migrating to a new program. All individual MPA2 links codes will be automatically redirected utilizing Apache's mod_rewrite function, therefore, you will not need to change any link codes or hosted galleries you currently have live. This will remain in effect permanently. All current webmaster data will be imported into the new program, including all rebills. There should only be two things that will affect you as a webmaster during the migration: 1) You will potentially have to login with your webmaster code (i.e.,100000) versus your username. 2) While all current MPA2 links will be redirected to your new MP link code automatically, it will be best for you to use the new link codes for all new links you create going forward. These will be available on the MP site once we launch in the coming days. All payouts will continue to be paid out by us on time as always. We have been working diligently over the last 30 days to get this right, and make it as seamless as possible for you, our valued webmasters. We also have major re-designs, new sites and plenty of new things ready to go, we have held back until we had the MPA2 issue resolved. Look for big things coming very, soon! If you have any questions please let us know.

03-05-2004, 07:53 PM	#2
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03-05-2004, 07:57 PM	#5
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03-05-2004, 11:49 PM	#43
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03-06-2004, 02:08 AM	#46
WWC #1 Adult Content Provider Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Glendale, Ca Posts: 11,577	Its not just the MPA program that allows you to do this. ANY program can do this unless audited by a third party. Even processors like Epoch, CCbill, Jettis, etc. can be set up to shave sponsors. At some point you have to trust a company if your going to do business with. Or else, process on your own... Any programmer who writes an affiliate software can set this type of script to show the percentage they only want to show. The best way for you to be assure or have some faith in a company is : a) see the amounts they pay out. How can companies pay out $35, $45, $50 or even $75 per sign up when if an average members lets say shall convert 3 months even at $29.95, thats almost $90! And after expense, cost of operation, bandwidth, content, etc. Why would they be in this business. b) meet the owners of affiliate programs, ask others who know them, sense how they are and if you dont feel like you can trust them, then dont do business with them! At some point you have to trust in a company. Its like us trusting third party processors like Epoch, CCbill, Jettis, etc. They also can shave, right? c) Try multiple affiliate programs and see whose checks are getting bigger! :-) cause at end of day, your traffic will convert somewhat the same everywhere. If one affiliate your traffic is converting 1:800 and another is 1:400 to a similar niche site, then why send it to the first company. Anyways, at some point you have to work with a company you trust, like doing business with and see that your success is growing. Scums who shave others, will be shaved themselves in their lives at some point in time. Straight business is always good business and those are the ones who will still be around 5 years or 10 years from now. Sincerely, Raffi www.AdultLounge.com __________________ [email protected] ICQ : 494-353-230 Follow WWC on Twitter CLICK HERE! " CONTENT PROVIDER OF THE YEAR! " ~ 2007 , 2008 & 2009 XBIZ AWARDS WINNER! .......www.WorldWideContent.com / www.WorldWideFeeds.com...... WWC Nominated " Content Licensor of The Year " 2010 XBiz Awards !!!

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