The end of dialers in Germany? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 03-05-2004, 05:05 PM

Just heard in the radio that in Germany from now on the surfer doesn't have to pay the dialer bill to his phone company anymore.

polish_aristocrat · 03-05-2004, 05:09 PM

Because some lady got a 9k EUR phone bill and went to court, so now they are apparently going to change the law...

Pornopat · 03-05-2004, 05:15 PM

Now that would be a silly law...

polish_aristocrat · 03-05-2004, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornopat
Now that would be a silly law...

Perhaps this is not 100% sure, you know, you cannot always trust the news guy when he's talking about internet - shit.

boneprone · 03-05-2004, 05:18 PM

dude its done...

its been done.

Now its really done...

You really think you are gunna see your Germany money?

Ill bet you.

funkmaster · 03-05-2004, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Because some lady got a 9k EUR phone bill and went to court, so now they are apparently going to change the law...

... yes, it's my granny, I installed the fucking thing on her puter, thought it was a great idea to get some more money for crack.

pimplink · 03-05-2004, 05:20 PM

What a silly law!

cayne · 03-05-2004, 05:39 PM

i dont like dialers, the law is good.

hova · 03-05-2004, 05:40 PM

very strange law, but a good thing tho. Dialers suck ass

Miguelmateos · 03-05-2004, 05:53 PM

I think in a way it's a good idea, at least for auto downloaded dialers. I hate them and hope they all go out of business, and people get back to basic good business. as far as for the dialers that are downloaded on purpose there should be a way to tell which companies are cheats and which are not since that would be a big loss in revenue for a lot of honest webmasters dialers. eaither way I don' like dialers maybe cuase I never used them maybe becuase I live in a foreign country and get bombarded with them at least I used to how knows. good old fasioned signup is always the way to go.

Miguelmateos · 03-06-2004, 12:47 AM

Paul Markham · 03-06-2004, 12:57 AM

Guess the Germans will have to get out their credit cards now. They will still consume porn just find another way to pay for it.

Trax · 03-06-2004, 04:12 AM

end of dialers because of that?? yes for 9000? phone bills
but not for the average dialer

polish_aristocrat · 03-06-2004, 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by Trax
9000?

where is the EUR sign in the keyboard?

bluff · 03-06-2004, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Miguelmateos
I think in a way it's a good idea, at least for auto downloaded dialers. I hate them and hope they all go out of business, and people get back to basic good business. as far as for the dialers that are downloaded on purpose there should be a way to tell which companies are cheats and which are not since that would be a big loss in revenue for a lot of honest webmasters dialers. eaither way I don' like dialers maybe cuase I never used them maybe becuase I live in a foreign country and get bombarded with them at least I used to how knows. good old fasioned signup is always the way to go.

I agree

lyno · 03-06-2004, 04:49 AM

Dialer registered with the RegTP and using 09009 numbers are still legal.

03-06-2004, 04:53 AM

Yes, 0900 numbers is working with full legal dialers, but it is not easy to get this numbers. Only people from German or German Company may get it.

Slinx · 03-06-2004, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Miguelmateos
I think in a way it's a good idea, at least for auto downloaded dialers. I hate them and hope they all go out of business, and people get back to basic good business. as far as for the dialers that are downloaded on purpose there should be a way to tell which companies are cheats and which are not since that would be a big loss in revenue for a lot of honest webmasters dialers. eaither way I don' like dialers maybe cuase I never used them maybe becuase I live in a foreign country and get bombarded with them at least I used to how knows. good old fasioned signup is always the way to go.

This was the decision of the surpeme court. If you got tricked (auto-popup or hidden installation) into the dialer, you don't have to pay. It's not the end of the dialer market, it's a way in the right direction. If a link to a dialer is placed on the join page and you decide to click on the link to pay via phone for the service, it's fine. (see Nastydollars sites) If you go to a TGP and you get thousands of pop-ups with auto-dialer installations, the site owner is fucked, not the surfer.

Pornopat · 03-06-2004, 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Guess the Germans will have to get out their credit cards now. They will still consume porn just find another way to pay for it.

Creditcards have a long way to go in Germany imho.
I think they would rather go for stuff like payment by sms or E-wallets...

JOP · 03-06-2004, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornopat

Creditcards have a long way to go in Germany imho.
I think they would rather go for stuff like payment by sms or E-wallets...

We do directdebit for germany since years. It works great and

is the most accepted form of online payment in germany

The laws regarding dialers in germany have changed quite a

while ago and the people who have not noticed this yet will

very soon do so when they won´t get payed for minutes on

their "regular" german dialer.

strobi · 03-06-2004, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

where is the EUR sign in the keyboard?

most of the time it's "ALT+E"

deleteduser · 03-06-2004, 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Just heard in the radio that in Germany from now on the surfer doesn't have to pay the dialer bill to his phone company anymore.

you didnt hear it in the radio, you saw it on that crappy cable company RTL2

yes it's true, but it's old news.
if dialer autoinstall and you have proof that you had no knowledge that you get charged ?1,68 per minute you don't have to pay. if you click any checkbox saying "i read the terms" you gotta pay trough.

also a common trick is to say your kids used it cause underaged kids can't make any contacts and the dialer agreement (to charge you ?1,68 per minute) is a contact. this stuff mainly comes up for fun-dialer and homework-dialer (that stuff is hot in germany lately).

so STFU everybody! germany knows how not to get fucked (except WWII)

BigPinPin · 03-06-2004, 07:14 AM

The Dialer will be forbidden in Germany...
This year or the next one. If you dont believe it, let it. Its your money.

deleteduser · 03-06-2004, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigPinPin
The Dialer will be forbidden in Germany...
This year or the next one. If you dont believe it, let it. Its your money.

you are talking bullshit. autoinstalling dialers are forbidden - legal dialer never will. you should really not post your opinion if you have no clue at all - oh wait, this is gfy - everyone does it.

polish_aristocrat · 03-06-2004, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CeKilleR

you didnt hear it in the radio, you saw it on that crappy cable company RTL2

The last time I watched RTL 2 was like 5 year ago.
This time it was on a radio

If you don't believe, then

deleteduser · 03-06-2004, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

The last time I watched RTL 2 was like 5 year ago.
This time it was on a radio
If you don't believe, then

they really suck - but they have one or two sitcoms that i use to watch

polish_aristocrat · 03-06-2004, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi

most of the time it's "ALT+E"

apparently not here

broke · 03-06-2004, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

apparently not here

& euro; works.

€

bluff · 03-06-2004, 07:33 AM

€

polish_aristocrat · 03-06-2004, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke

& euro; works.

€

€ - haha, it works but it is so complicated...

Thanks anyway

Wizzo · 03-06-2004, 08:07 AM

As long as they're still legal in the UK... All is good!

xl11 · 03-06-2004, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

where is the EUR sign in the keyboard?

You should know that!

"Alt + U" if you have polish version of windows.

CPAK · 03-06-2004, 08:42 AM

Yeah UK don't have very long love history like Germany , I think it will work 5-6 mounths...

polish_aristocrat · 03-06-2004, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xl11

You should know that!

"Alt + U" if you have polish version of windows.

I didn't know that, but I know many other things

Thanks

Miguelmateos · 03-06-2004, 03:17 PM

Just copy this ? sign and put it in some text file so that every time you need or want to use it you just have to cut and paste . by the way my post above I was alittle drunk and half asleep so got a few spelling errors. but what I said still holds true I am glad dialers are getting pushed out of the market at least the auto downloaded ones

DialerMaster · 03-07-2004, 08:34 AM

It is true that the German market is very problematic now, but we still have some good solution for Germany traffic with guarantee payment

BigPinPin · 03-07-2004, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CeKilleR

you are talking bullshit. autoinstalling dialers are forbidden - legal dialer never will. you should really not post your opinion if you have no clue at all - oh wait, this is gfy - everyone does it.

Idiot, i am from germany. Tell the people what happend in the swiss bwfore some weeks.... tell them.....
Do you think Germany will allow longer this dialer shit? More and more people say: I had no idea about all......
The court gives them the absolute right !!!! thats a fact.
So lets see...you dont believe it? your problem...your money

body · 03-07-2004, 09:30 AM

Dialer sucks

http · 03-07-2004, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornopat

Creditcards have a long way to go in Germany imho.
I think they would rather go for stuff like payment by sms or E-wallets...

Germans have plenty of cards. Not as much as people in the US do but certainly more than the third world countries that some dialer companies and sponsors like to compare germany with. Last time I looked it was like 15 mio cards, or was it 20? The payout for 900 numbers is high though. Now guess where the "germans don't have cards" bullshit is coming from

DomFromParis · 03-07-2004, 10:17 AM

Thats right, After what happened in switzerland, germany is just following it

dominique

torrey · 03-07-2004, 10:26 AM

Dialers are a scam, these laws should be in place worldwide.

sandman! · 03-07-2004, 10:54 AM

Basic_man · 03-07-2004, 11:07 AM

So the phone company will pay the bill ? Lets raise the payrate!! :D

BigPinPin · 03-07-2004, 11:26 AM

all people that tell you the shit like: our dialers and our german conversions....blahblahblah...fuck them all. And Fuck all this bullshit programms, that still tell this shit.

The Dialer will die in Germany very soon...the swiss made it, germany follows....FACT

BigPinPin · 03-07-2004, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOP

We do directdebit for germany since years. It works great and

is the most accepted form of online payment in germany

The laws regarding dialers in germany have changed quite a

while ago and the people who have not noticed this yet will

very soon do so when they won´t get payed for minutes on

their "regular" german dialer.

pfffffffff tell the story about chargebacks with directdebit in germany....pfff

JOP · 03-07-2004, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigPinPin

pfffffffff tell the story about chargebacks with directdebit in germany....pfff

We don´t deduct directdebit chargebacks at internationalbucks.

fuelcell · 03-07-2004, 12:10 PM

So many fucking banners in this thread. Really starting to fucking irritate me. It's like HEY LOOK AT MEEEE!!! NO, LOOK AT ME!!!!

Sorry. You can go back to reading the thread now.

BigPinPin · 03-07-2004, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOP

We don´t deduct directdebit chargebacks at internationalbucks.

??? bullshit

Roger · 03-07-2004, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cayne
i dont like dialers, the law is good.

Agreed. Auto dialers are ripping off people. It's bad for the whole industry.

Roger · 03-07-2004, 12:30 PM

50 dialers.

This is my first 50th post in a thread

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