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Old 03-02-2004, 11:14 PM   #101
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101 - fuck. i missed it.
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:15 PM   #103
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Your response was much more mature LOL

Get a life !! Both you whores need to get back in bed.
Yeah, and you've got egg on your face, grow a brain, learn to read html, blah blah blah...

At least I say it under my one and only name. Post under your real nick or fuck off. At the very least, don't be so goddamn transparent.
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IMHO, Rodney Connor has no fucking clue how to run an affiliate program. From the very beginning Tam and myself tried to get him to put the right tools in place. I contacted other respected industry people and put them in touch with Rodney so that they could assist as well.




I want to know who the respected industry people where?

very interesting
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Unfortunately, there's probably a lot of PIBCash affiliates that don't read this or any webmaster board.
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Ouch that top seller was shaved a little more than 50%.

Someone is going through there checks right now, ya better hold on Aaron and save some for the webmasters that may pursue for theft.

That would be drama 2.0
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Yeah, and you've got egg on your face, grow a brain, learn to read html, blah blah blah...
i think you reduced him to tears.

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Ouch that top seller was shaved a little more than 50%.

Someone is going through there checks right now, ya better hold on Aaron and save some for the webmasters that may pursue for theft.

That would be drama 2.0
LMAO read that whole thread and see what people were telling webmasters about how we are crazy, the caps are fake and so on, its a revealing thread to say the least, especially the people who stick up for PIB which is few
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:23 PM   #114
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WOW! Whose got time to pop the popcorn. There is so much happening here I can't leave the screen

Good luck with this Aaron, you sure as hell deserve better than the treatment you have been receiving from them.

Keep up the good work
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I read every word, and I must say... well done. Best drama I have seen in 3 years of reading GFY!

My question to you is... did you have any prior kowledge of his checkered past?

If so, why did you still enter into a contract with him (even though your saying he never actually signed it)?

I'm not raggin on you or anything, I'm jsut wondering if you knew and maybe you were being a nice guy and still giving him a shot.

Good luck with everything and I hope you and the affilates who get in contact with you/your firm take him to the cleaners!
I had no knowledge of his past. He had been a decent client of mine and we developed a friendship. I started hearing things AFTER we did this project. Rodney is a master at deception and playing one person against another.

Case in point... Tam. Rodney told Tam and his other employees that I was bleeding him dry and that was why he was havinf financial problems. That made those peole not like me. He told them not to deal with me and he told me not to deal with them. By doing this, he filtered all of our conversations and built anger between us. When this happens, there is a serious breakdown in communication. He seemed to be able to justify any and every concern I had.
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I gather they never appeared?

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I had no knowledge of his past. He had been a decent client of mine and we developed a friendship. I started hearing things AFTER we did this project. Rodney is a master at deception and playing one person against another.

Case in point... Tam. Rodney told Tam and his other employees that I was bleeding him dry and that was why he was havinf financial problems. That made those peole not like me. He told them not to deal with me and he told me not to deal with them. By doing this, he filtered all of our conversations and built anger between us. When this happens, there is a serious breakdown in communication. He seemed to be able to justify any and every concern I had.
whoa, he's crafty. unless of course you're the one who is crafty, turning the entire adult webmaster community against him. that would be slick.
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IMHO, Rodney Connor has no fucking clue how to run an affiliate program. From the very beginning Tam and myself tried to get him to put the right tools in place. I contacted other respected industry people and put them in touch with Rodney so that they could assist as well.




I want to know who the respected industry people where?

very interesting
LOL...I did not want to drag your name into it bro.

Roger V was one of the first people to talk to Rodney and try to help me get things on track. Roger has been a great support to me with everything I have done since day one.

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whoa, he's crafty. unless of course you're the one who is crafty, turning the entire adult webmaster community against him. that would be slick.
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Ok as for the validity of those screenshots? Here we go, hang onto your asses, because it gets better from here, folks.

Here is the thing. I had 5 sites with PIBCash, they were doing pretty damn well for the short time they were there and I never once got any of MY 50% of it for whatever reason could be mustered up on the side of Rodney Connor. I FINALLY, 5 months after I started making money on them, if you will remember the DATE on those screencaps....... on September 2nd, 2003, I called him and told him I REALLY needed my money on those sites, I needed the cash, not to mention it was my money and I wanted it...... which was fair enough right? SOOOOO, I called him on the phone and I asked him if I could do the numbers myself so I could get paid, I knew he didn't have the time, so I had access to everything, I'd just print it all out and figure it up, show him what I had and we'd go from there.

WELL.......... I got HIS PERMISSION... did you see that? HE KNEW I HAD THOSE!!! HE TOLD ME I COULD!! I printed off Eopch stats on what the TOTALS were..... and then I went and TRIED to print out what EACH and every single webmaster made on MY sites.... that became a huge hassle and was very slow, SO, I made screencaps of the stats area, and I printed them off..... took them into my living room and spread them all out and started my work of finding out what my sites had made..... if anyone has ever had to run 7 months of data at one time, You can only IMAGINE the papers I had in front of me..... finally 2 DAYS later...... I had totals and I called him with them. MY share of MY sites had come up to more than $4k.... this is AFTER webmasters were paid, he got his share and fees and such were paid. I bought MY own content and paid MY own hosting..... this was out of MY pocket.

OK.... so here I am and am running numbers like a mad bitch.... in doing this, I started seeing some SERIUOS discrepencies in the numbers I was looking at. I called my husband over to look at them and he seen it too. Talk about freaking the hell out.. my GOD, it was a nightmare. I STOPPED doing any kind of promotion of the program and said I was going to, I am not promoting this and it needs to be fixed and fixed now.

BOTTOM line is, Rodney Connor KNEW and gave me permission to do this, I never would have done it otherwise, but that money was MINE and I wanted it. He paid me all but $2300 that was owed to me and at the time he fired me, he let it get back to me that I would play hell ever seeing this money..... so I let him know if this is how he wants to play, then so be it, but I WOULD get my money, one way or another.

Ok so I FINALLY got my money, almost 2 months later. BUT I had to alert webmasters..... how was I going to do this and not look like just another "disgruntled employee" you ask? I didn't know either, but I KNEW I had to get word somehow to those affiliates without it being blown off as my just being mad, because anyone who knows me knows I don't play that way...... fire me and I walk away, I leave a company, I walk away, I don't make a public scene. BUT I had to do something to get it out because I was NOT about to sit and let affiliates take the fall and lose MORE money on this just because they seen me as a disgruntled ex-employee...... which is what I was being called over and over again..... and in reality, the REASON I had them was for something completely different, just so happened that as a RESULT of my having them I discovered this.

Aaron knew NOTHING about this.... not ONE thing. I immediately contacted him and he then started doing what HE had to do and I gladly kept quiet so that he could do what he needed to do LEGALLY!! He had FAR more to lose than I ever had... and I was damn well going to stand beside him on this..... BUT at the same time, I desperately needed to get SOME way of getting this out there.

So..... for all of you asking..... and wondering...... those caps ARE real, they are NOT altered and they ARE not shopped.... I blacked out the affiliates names on them to protect THEM, they knew their account numbers so they'd know what do do.... I have NO idea how to work photoshop and ANYONE who knows me knows this. OK, well I am learning NOW, bt knew nothing about it then.

I can't tell you enough that Aaron knew nothing of this and the INSTANT he did, he made moves to take care of it, but things take time to go thru the legal system... and that's what he's been trying to do.

When I got fired from this program, I swore I'd not be taking another job with anyone else..... I FULLY and 200% trusted Rodney, as Aaron did, we had no reason not to, or so we thought. BUT this is why I started my OWN program, so I can run it the way *I* want to run it and this is honest and straight up, I couldn't even THINK of having to go thru that yet AGAIN!!

That's my side.... now you have it. Hate me if you want, but say what you want, I DID do whatever it took to get word out to all the affiliates using the ONLY tools I had....... would you have believed me had *I* posted them so soon after I was fired? HELL NO!!!
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i think you reduced him to tears.

The only person following anyone around, is you. This is at least the second thread today where you've jumped in quoting me. Keep your cock gobbler shut to me, and I'll go back to pretending you don't exist. Simple.
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i'm the idiot? dude i've seen your posts/threads. quit crying.
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Heres one of the screenshots tam is taking about.

I didn't bother to save the other ones.... Does anyone have them???
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So..... for all of you asking..... and wondering...... those caps ARE real, they are NOT altered and they ARE not shopped.... I blacked out the affiliates names on them to protect THEM, they knew their account numbers so they'd know what do do.... I have NO idea how to work photoshop and ANYONE who knows me knows this. OK, well I am learning NOW, bt knew nothing about it then.

I can't tell you enough that Aaron knew nothing of this and the INSTANT he did, he made moves to take care of it, but things take time to go thru the legal system... and that's what he's been trying to do.

When I got fired from this program, I swore I'd not be taking another job with anyone else..... I FULLY and 200% trusted Rodney, as Aaron did, we had no reason not to, or so we thought. BUT this is why I started my OWN program, so I can run it the way *I* want to run it and this is honest and straight up, I couldn't even THINK of having to go thru that yet AGAIN!!

That's my side.... now you have it. Hate me if you want, but say what you want, I DID do whatever it took to get word out to all the affiliates using the ONLY tools I had....... would you have believed me had *I* posted them so soon after I was fired? HELL NO!!!
Incredible. Nice work Tam. I always figured caps were real, its nice to have confirmation.
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bah - TAM, you would have added a LOT of credibilty to the screen caps. Not sure how/if it would have put you at a legal risk, though.

Glad the light of truth is finally shining on this matter.
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whoa, he's crafty. unless of course you're the one who is crafty, turning the entire adult webmaster community against him. that would be slick.
Nope.... it wasn't US.. this was ALL his doing from the word go. He had me and Aaron, who had been such close friends so mad at each other all of the time. Telling me one thing and telling him another so we wouldn't speak to each other.

It got to the point where in Florida, the time I FINALLY got to meet Aaron, we were strained with each other and had words....... I was not allowed to talk to Aaron and was told to stay away from him....... he was doing nothing but causing problems he said. VERY few things brought me to tears, but the fact I thought Aaron had turned on me did me in for a long time. THEN after I was clear of the fires, shit started coming into place..... and Aaron and Ih aven't had even ONE cross word with each other since. So it wasn't US....... he is the crafty one. And VERY slick at it.
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Wow. Tam's post was well worth the wait.

Tam, I suggest you start your own thread if you haven't already.
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Glad the light of truth is finally shining on this matter.
NOPE, I wouldn't have... I owned 5 of those sites and I had a right to have the books on them........ not to mention he GAVE me permission to do this and I had proof of this as well..... so no, I didn't face anything....... but I know how people look at disgruntled employees and I needed desperately for them to be taken seriously.
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Ok as for the validity of those screenshots? Here we go, hang onto your asses, because it gets better from here, folks.

Here is the thing. I had 5 sites with PIBCash, they were doing pretty damn well for the short time they were there and I never once got any of MY 50% of it for whatever reason could be mustered up on the side of Rodney Connor. I FINALLY, 5 months after I started making money on them, if you will remember the DATE on those screencaps....... on September 2nd, 2003, I called him and told him I REALLY needed my money on those sites, I needed the cash, not to mention it was my money and I wanted it...... which was fair enough right? SOOOOO, I called him on the phone and I asked him if I could do the numbers myself so I could get paid, I knew he didn't have the time, so I had access to everything, I'd just print it all out and figure it up, show him what I had and we'd go from there.

WELL.......... I got HIS PERMISSION... did you see that? HE KNEW I HAD THOSE!!! HE TOLD ME I COULD!! I printed off Eopch stats on what the TOTALS were..... and then I went and TRIED to print out what EACH and every single webmaster made on MY sites.... that became a huge hassle and was very slow, SO, I made screencaps of the stats area, and I printed them off..... took them into my living room and spread them all out and started my work of finding out what my sites had made..... if anyone has ever had to run 7 months of data at one time, You can only IMAGINE the papers I had in front of me..... finally 2 DAYS later...... I had totals and I called him with them. MY share of MY sites had come up to more than $4k.... this is AFTER webmasters were paid, he got his share and fees and such were paid. I bought MY own content and paid MY own hosting..... this was out of MY pocket.

OK.... so here I am and am running numbers like a mad bitch.... in doing this, I started seeing some SERIUOS discrepencies in the numbers I was looking at. I called my husband over to look at them and he seen it too. Talk about freaking the hell out.. my GOD, it was a nightmare. I STOPPED doing any kind of promotion of the program and said I was going to, I am not promoting this and it needs to be fixed and fixed now.

BOTTOM line is, Rodney Connor KNEW and gave me permission to do this, I never would have done it otherwise, but that money was MINE and I wanted it. He paid me all but $2300 that was owed to me and at the time he fired me, he let it get back to me that I would play hell ever seeing this money..... so I let him know if this is how he wants to play, then so be it, but I WOULD get my money, one way or another.

Ok so I FINALLY got my money, almost 2 months later. BUT I had to alert webmasters..... how was I going to do this and not look like just another "disgruntled employee" you ask? I didn't know either, but I KNEW I had to get word somehow to those affiliates without it being blown off as my just being mad, because anyone who knows me knows I don't play that way...... fire me and I walk away, I leave a company, I walk away, I don't make a public scene. BUT I had to do something to get it out because I was NOT about to sit and let affiliates take the fall and lose MORE money on this just because they seen me as a disgruntled ex-employee...... which is what I was being called over and over again..... and in reality, the REASON I had them was for something completely different, just so happened that as a RESULT of my having them I discovered this.

Aaron knew NOTHING about this.... not ONE thing. I immediately contacted him and he then started doing what HE had to do and I gladly kept quiet so that he could do what he needed to do LEGALLY!! He had FAR more to lose than I ever had... and I was damn well going to stand beside him on this..... BUT at the same time, I desperately needed to get SOME way of getting this out there.

So..... for all of you asking..... and wondering...... those caps ARE real, they are NOT altered and they ARE not shopped.... I blacked out the affiliates names on them to protect THEM, they knew their account numbers so they'd know what do do.... I have NO idea how to work photoshop and ANYONE who knows me knows this. OK, well I am learning NOW, bt knew nothing about it then.

I can't tell you enough that Aaron knew nothing of this and the INSTANT he did, he made moves to take care of it, but things take time to go thru the legal system... and that's what he's been trying to do.

When I got fired from this program, I swore I'd not be taking another job with anyone else..... I FULLY and 200% trusted Rodney, as Aaron did, we had no reason not to, or so we thought. BUT this is why I started my OWN program, so I can run it the way *I* want to run it and this is honest and straight up, I couldn't even THINK of having to go thru that yet AGAIN!!

That's my side.... now you have it. Hate me if you want, but say what you want, I DID do whatever it took to get word out to all the affiliates using the ONLY tools I had....... would you have believed me had *I* posted them so soon after I was fired? HELL NO!!!

God it must feel good to get all this out eh? Good to see others can finaly rest asured that the caps are in fact REAL.
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i'm the idiot? dude i've seen your posts/threads. quit crying.
Thats right, your not a total idiot...


What is it that Aaron says, oh yeah, your a FUCKTARD!!!
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is domainpimps.com yours?
yeah it is man. every domain listed there is mine. i think you contacted me about feared.com once. i'm away from home and i don't have icq installed here. shoot me an email if you are interested in anything.
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What is it that Aaron says, oh yeah, your a FUCKTARD!!!
stop hiding behind that nick.
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who the hell talks like that. this is my last response to you. quit wasting my time.
I do. And if you don't like it, let me refer you back to page two and once again remind you that you can go fuck yourself. And you're right - the best thing you can do is to quit addressing me, because I sure in the fuck wasn't talking to you when you stuck your nose in my post, to begin with.
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God it must feel good to get all this out eh? Good to see others can finaly rest asured that the caps are in fact REAL.
YES it does.... you have NO idea how very hard it was watching my name being trashed the way it was.... I made so many posts that I deleted.... and I didn't want to tarnish anything...... I need it to come off as absolute valid as I could.

You can say a lot of things about me, I am a bitch, I am not perfect by NO means.... but I am NOT a liar and I am NOT a cheat......... and NO ONE, NO ONE fucks my family and friends over and lives to tell about it. I made a commitment to MY affiliates and I damn well intended to stand behind it.



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Damn Aaron, I had no idea the backstory of this thing was so fucked. Good luck getting what you're owed.
I don't expect to recover any money from him and I sure as hell would not want a single dime of any shaved money.

I have everything I realy need to proceed. I own the copyright..Not Rodney. The only thing he has is the tonifreeland domain and at this point....He can't legally use it.

Another thing Rodney failed to do was to trademark the name way back when I originally suggested it. I even sent him a link to download the paperwork.

Too late for him to do it now.
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Can somone please go start an anti IPK thread or somthing so he can go bicker in there... hes ruining this thread for me.
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