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Raven 03-03-2004 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


It is really low. No offense meant to Tam but the majority of the sites under PIBCash did not make shit becaue Rodney would not market them correctly.

Sorry to correct you, darlin'....but Rodney COULDN'T market a site correctly even when it was spelled out for him, using small words.

Oh. Wait. It WAS spelled out for him, using small words.

twodamntons 03-03-2004 01:08 AM

What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

AaronM 03-03-2004 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

Man...I don't know who you are or how you got that but you definately have my attention now.

If you have more of those then I would be highly interested in speaking to you.

Kindly find a way to contact me in private.

Tam 03-03-2004 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa


Tams $4000 for 5 sites over 5 months at her 50% afer affiliates.

I mean Im all for lots of little sites making a few bucks a day but this seems real low.

Edit I mean no disrespect to Tam in this statement.

Honey, my sites did ALOT more than that..... A LOT. BUT I had to eat the fees, chargebacks, which were minimal... (by fees I mean epoch fees)....... I ate all the fees on my own sites. THEN there was a matter of some so called cheating that was going on, and wouldn't you know it.... all these so called cheaters were on MY sites..... yeah like I believe that one, BUT I ate that one too...... what *I* called MY part was the part I KNEW to be a fact mine.

I was badly ripped on all of it, but I KNEW I was owed that much and that's what I wanted and demanded.

There is a lot more to it than JUST that $4k....... A LOT, but I don't have the papers in front of me right now to get exact figures.

You see? The old program had a VERY large porion of sales for my sites, bt that mysteriously vanished one night........ supposedly it crashed..... and in THAT one I knew there was a lot of sales on my sites. Had one converting at 1:38 on it for several weeks..... but again, I ATE all of that as well.

Does that make sense? I just wanted what I KNEW and could prove!!

Deb 03-03-2004 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

It's a file that I surely find very interesting & plan to save for reasons of my own. :winkwink:

Aaron, my best wishes & support go out to you. :thumbsup

JulianSosa 03-03-2004 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam


Honey, my sites did ALOT more than that..... A LOT. BUT I had to eat the fees, chargebacks, which were minimal... (by fees I mean epoch fees)....... I ate all the fees on my own sites. THEN there was a matter of some so called cheating that was going on, and wouldn't you know it.... all these so called cheaters were on MY sites..... yeah like I believe that one, BUT I ate that one too...... what *I* called MY part was the part I KNEW to be a fact mine.

I was badly ripped on all of it, but I KNEW I was owed that much and that's what I wanted and demanded.

There is a lot more to it than JUST that $4k....... A LOT, but I don't have the papers in front of me right now to get exact figures.

You see? The old program had a VERY large porion of sales for my sites, bt that mysteriously vanished one night........ supposedly it crashed..... and in THAT one I knew there was a lot of sales on my sites. Had one converting at 1:38 on it for several weeks..... but again, I ATE all of that as well.



Does that make sense? I just wanted what I KNEW and could prove!!


Sorry that sucks . Can you point me to the one that did 1:38 with epoch :)

quiet 03-03-2004 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

hmm

Tam 03-03-2004 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM


It is really low. No offense meant to Tam but the majority of the sites under PIBCash did not make shit becaue Rodney would not market them correctly.

Yup, exactly..... and the 30 minute free trials that affiliates were paid $30 for? I ate half of that as well....... it all comes out, but like I said, I don't have the damn energy to go thru all of that again.

AND..... Aaron is right. He and I BOTH went thru many battles trying to get things done on a marketing angle, as other sponsors here can attest to, but to no avail. It was NOT marketed well at ALL..... but not from lack of Aaron and I busting our asses on it. WE know and knew what WE were doing..... why you think we are bioth still here? LOL

psyko514 03-03-2004 01:25 AM

Whatever happened to the PIBCash prize giveaway?

Tam 03-03-2004 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa



Sorry that sucks . Can you point me to the one that did 1:38 with epoch :)

It was on the OLD script which I have ZERO access to.... but I had several that were doing very well with Realamateurpussy.com and despite appearances.......... it DID do well..... and still does. It's a very nice design and yeah I am proud of it, it was my first ever site, so to see it do well had me excited as hell..... LOL

I lost EVERYTHING from March til June, I THINK that's when the old stats system "crashed".

Tam 03-03-2004 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Whatever happened to the PIBCash prize giveaway?
THAT was pulled within a few days of my leaving the company.. :1orglaugh

psyko514 03-03-2004 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam


THAT was pulled within a few days of my leaving the company.. :1orglaugh

lol... that's fucked.

Krille 03-03-2004 01:39 AM

very interesting reading... go Aaron go!

Alex Xe 03-03-2004 01:47 AM

very interesting...thanks for information.

kush 03-03-2004 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
<font size=6>What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

</font>

Wow.

What can you tell us about this?

- Jesus Christ - 03-03-2004 02:20 AM

WOAH! at the Epoch PDF......


Leaked documents are COOL AND FUN! :1orglaugh


Glad Im up at 5AM tonight.

chodadog 03-03-2004 02:22 AM

That PDF file is certainly very interesting ...

railz 03-03-2004 02:47 AM

I hope it all works out for you Aaron and best of luck with your new program Tam.

That PDF is very interesting reading. If any of you guys want to air your views in an interview with PR, let me know.

AaronM 03-03-2004 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by railz
I hope it all works out for you Aaron and best of luck with your new program Tam.

That PDF is very interesting reading. If any of you guys want to air your views in an interview with PR, let me know.

Hey railz.

You are the 4th person to contact me with an offer like this. Let's hook up. I am all about spreading the word.


And twodamntons......Thanks for the additional info. :thumbsup

The Gallery Girl 03-03-2004 03:08 AM

You should talk to Bruno Aaron....Rodney owns Dickmans Design a lot of money, specially for the first Tonifreeland design.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-03-2004 03:20 AM

PDF file is crazy.

As note the figures are not applicable to webmaster payouts it does not show them.
Doing the math some on that.

So! so!! interesting!

AaronM 03-03-2004 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Gallery Girl
You should talk to Bruno Aaron....Rodney owns Dickmans Design a lot of money, specially for the first Tonifreeland design.

That's already been addressed. It's a small world. I can't really speak about Bruno's claim or case but I have a feeling things may be looking in his favor.

Of course......If somebody is as broke as Rodney is claiming to be then it may be hard for Bruno to recover any monies owed to him.

www.datamg.com may be interested in some of this as well.

Ross 03-03-2004 05:28 AM

WOW I didn't know he also owned Dickmans design. Bruno and his team are the best designers out there...

That sucks balls.

vicki 03-03-2004 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf



Whoa!

beemk 03-03-2004 06:22 AM

damn i missed some good drama last night.

dont know if it was brough up, but what about all these webmasters that were shaved, mabye you can organize some kind of class action lawsuite.

beemk 03-03-2004 06:24 AM

haha weird shavebucks redirects to pibcash

PhotoGreggXXX 03-03-2004 06:25 AM

Time to put in my 2 cents.

Back in August last year, we went into a partnership with PibCash for 2 sites, set up all the content, shot custom content, and provided 'filler' content for the sites.

Not one dime has come back my way. At Internext in Jan., I was told we're getting signups and by Feb. I'd be getting $$$. They also mentioned that they would be opening a new affiliate program because of the bad publicity on the 'shaving' thing.

None of that has happened, no contact at all from them.

Heads up on Tam though: She contacted me about content that I produced on one of the sites she got back. Shows honesty and integrity that she asked to buy it rather than keep using it.

In 5 years of doing biz with tons of people, I have to disagree that 90% are crooks. This is the first bad experience I've had in dealing with 100's of folks...my feeling is that all in all, we are a tight and honest group of biz professionals.

TurboAngel 03-03-2004 06:25 AM

Get them Aaron!


:ak47: :ak47:

swedguy 03-03-2004 06:30 AM

Good to see that things are finally starting to happen.

cool1 03-03-2004 07:06 AM

AaronM
I am sorry to hear these things happened to you, you don't deserve shit like this.
I wish you much luck and hope things work out for you.

bugout 03-03-2004 07:11 AM

Great thread..

I just had to get my sig in..

Oh wait, I dont have a sig

Bree 03-03-2004 07:13 AM

Aaron
glad to see you take this stand. Good luck :thumbsup

jact 03-03-2004 07:14 AM

I'm just on my way to pickup LadyM from the hospital, I'll be back later today to read each and every post of this thread.

Aaron, if you need anything, just call on me bro. I know you probably won't, but the offer's there just in case.

Platinum Dave 03-03-2004 07:16 AM

The drama, its killing me.....

C_U_Next_Tuesday 03-03-2004 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ross
WOW I didn't know he also owned Dickmans design. Bruno and his team are the best designers out there...

That sucks balls.

I think they meant to type "owes" instead of "owned"


Aaron, go get em Tiger!!

cosis 03-03-2004 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

well i guess i won't be using them

C_U_Next_Tuesday 03-03-2004 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
I'm just on my way to pickup LadyM from the hospital, I'll be back later today to read each and every post of this thread.

Aaron, if you need anything, just call on me bro. I know you probably won't, but the offer's there just in case.

Did she have the baby?

Nicky 03-03-2004 07:20 AM

yea shove dog shit down their throut Aaron!!! they deserv it!

some_idiot 03-03-2004 07:22 AM

Pretty fucked up. I don't know Tam at all, but Aaron is a great
guy. This is enough for me to dump my links no matter what
Sixpack's response is going to be. (hate to be him waking up
to this...)

Keep strong Aaron!

Naughty 03-03-2004 07:31 AM

Here's to yet another DVD/Xbox for ya.


Good luck.


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