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Raven · 03-03-2004, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

It is really low. No offense meant to Tam but the majority of the sites under PIBCash did not make shit becaue Rodney would not market them correctly.

Sorry to correct you, darlin'....but Rodney COULDN'T market a site correctly even when it was spelled out for him, using small words.

Oh. Wait. It WAS spelled out for him, using small words.

twodamntons · 03-03-2004, 01:08 AM

What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

AaronM · 03-03-2004, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

Man...I don't know who you are or how you got that but you definately have my attention now.

If you have more of those then I would be highly interested in speaking to you.

Kindly find a way to contact me in private.

Tam · 03-03-2004, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa

Tams $4000 for 5 sites over 5 months at her 50% afer affiliates.

I mean Im all for lots of little sites making a few bucks a day but this seems real low.

Edit I mean no disrespect to Tam in this statement.

Honey, my sites did ALOT more than that..... A LOT. BUT I had to eat the fees, chargebacks, which were minimal... (by fees I mean epoch fees)....... I ate all the fees on my own sites. THEN there was a matter of some so called cheating that was going on, and wouldn't you know it.... all these so called cheaters were on MY sites..... yeah like I believe that one, BUT I ate that one too...... what *I* called MY part was the part I KNEW to be a fact mine.

I was badly ripped on all of it, but I KNEW I was owed that much and that's what I wanted and demanded.

There is a lot more to it than JUST that $4k....... A LOT, but I don't have the papers in front of me right now to get exact figures.

You see? The old program had a VERY large porion of sales for my sites, bt that mysteriously vanished one night........ supposedly it crashed..... and in THAT one I knew there was a lot of sales on my sites. Had one converting at 1:38 on it for several weeks..... but again, I ATE all of that as well.

Does that make sense? I just wanted what I KNEW and could prove!!

Deb · 03-03-2004, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

It's a file that I surely find very interesting & plan to save for reasons of my own.

Aaron, my best wishes & support go out to you.

JulianSosa · 03-03-2004, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam

Honey, my sites did ALOT more than that..... A LOT. BUT I had to eat the fees, chargebacks, which were minimal... (by fees I mean epoch fees)....... I ate all the fees on my own sites. THEN there was a matter of some so called cheating that was going on, and wouldn't you know it.... all these so called cheaters were on MY sites..... yeah like I believe that one, BUT I ate that one too...... what *I* called MY part was the part I KNEW to be a fact mine.

I was badly ripped on all of it, but I KNEW I was owed that much and that's what I wanted and demanded.

There is a lot more to it than JUST that $4k....... A LOT, but I don't have the papers in front of me right now to get exact figures.

You see? The old program had a VERY large porion of sales for my sites, bt that mysteriously vanished one night........ supposedly it crashed..... and in THAT one I knew there was a lot of sales on my sites. Had one converting at 1:38 on it for several weeks..... but again, I ATE all of that as well.

Does that make sense? I just wanted what I KNEW and could prove!!

Sorry that sucks . Can you point me to the one that did 1:38 with epoch

quiet · 03-03-2004, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

hmm

Tam · 03-03-2004, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

It is really low. No offense meant to Tam but the majority of the sites under PIBCash did not make shit becaue Rodney would not market them correctly.

Yup, exactly..... and the 30 minute free trials that affiliates were paid $30 for? I ate half of that as well....... it all comes out, but like I said, I don't have the damn energy to go thru all of that again.

AND..... Aaron is right. He and I BOTH went thru many battles trying to get things done on a marketing angle, as other sponsors here can attest to, but to no avail. It was NOT marketed well at ALL..... but not from lack of Aaron and I busting our asses on it. WE know and knew what WE were doing..... why you think we are bioth still here? LOL

psyko514 · 03-03-2004, 01:25 AM

Whatever happened to the PIBCash prize giveaway?

Tam · 03-03-2004, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JulianSosa

Sorry that sucks . Can you point me to the one that did 1:38 with epoch

It was on the OLD script which I have ZERO access to.... but I had several that were doing very well with Realamateurpussy.com and despite appearances.......... it DID do well..... and still does. It's a very nice design and yeah I am proud of it, it was my first ever site, so to see it do well had me excited as hell..... LOL

I lost EVERYTHING from March til June, I THINK that's when the old stats system "crashed".

Tam · 03-03-2004, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
Whatever happened to the PIBCash prize giveaway?

THAT was pulled within a few days of my leaving the company..

psyko514 · 03-03-2004, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tam

THAT was pulled within a few days of my leaving the company..

lol... that's fucked.

Krille · 03-03-2004, 01:39 AM

very interesting reading... go Aaron go!

03-03-2004, 01:47 AM

very interesting...thanks for information.

kush · 03-03-2004, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
<font size=6>What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

</font>

Wow.

What can you tell us about this?

- Jesus Christ - · 03-03-2004, 02:20 AM

WOAH! at the Epoch PDF......

Leaked documents are COOL AND FUN!

Glad Im up at 5AM tonight.

chodadog · 03-03-2004, 02:22 AM

That PDF file is certainly very interesting ...

railz · 03-03-2004, 02:47 AM

I hope it all works out for you Aaron and best of luck with your new program Tam.

That PDF is very interesting reading. If any of you guys want to air your views in an interview with PR, let me know.

AaronM · 03-03-2004, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by railz
I hope it all works out for you Aaron and best of luck with your new program Tam.

That PDF is very interesting reading. If any of you guys want to air your views in an interview with PR, let me know.

Hey railz.

You are the 4th person to contact me with an offer like this. Let's hook up. I am all about spreading the word.

And twodamntons......Thanks for the additional info.

The Gallery Girl · 03-03-2004, 03:08 AM

You should talk to Bruno Aaron....Rodney owns Dickmans Design a lot of money, specially for the first Tonifreeland design.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-03-2004, 03:20 AM

PDF file is crazy.

As note the figures are not applicable to webmaster payouts it does not show them.
Doing the math some on that.

So! so!! interesting!

AaronM · 03-03-2004, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Gallery Girl
You should talk to Bruno Aaron....Rodney owns Dickmans Design a lot of money, specially for the first Tonifreeland design.

That's already been addressed. It's a small world. I can't really speak about Bruno's claim or case but I have a feeling things may be looking in his favor.

Of course......If somebody is as broke as Rodney is claiming to be then it may be hard for Bruno to recover any monies owed to him.

www.datamg.com may be interested in some of this as well.

Ross · 03-03-2004, 05:28 AM

WOW I didn't know he also owned Dickmans design. Bruno and his team are the best designers out there...

That sucks balls.

vicki · 03-03-2004, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

Whoa!

beemk · 03-03-2004, 06:22 AM

damn i missed some good drama last night.

dont know if it was brough up, but what about all these webmasters that were shaved, mabye you can organize some kind of class action lawsuite.

beemk · 03-03-2004, 06:24 AM

haha weird shavebucks redirects to pibcash

PhotoGreggXXX · 03-03-2004, 06:25 AM

Time to put in my 2 cents.

Back in August last year, we went into a partnership with PibCash for 2 sites, set up all the content, shot custom content, and provided 'filler' content for the sites.

Not one dime has come back my way. At Internext in Jan., I was told we're getting signups and by Feb. I'd be getting $$$. They also mentioned that they would be opening a new affiliate program because of the bad publicity on the 'shaving' thing.

None of that has happened, no contact at all from them.

Heads up on Tam though: She contacted me about content that I produced on one of the sites she got back. Shows honesty and integrity that she asked to buy it rather than keep using it.

In 5 years of doing biz with tons of people, I have to disagree that 90% are crooks. This is the first bad experience I've had in dealing with 100's of folks...my feeling is that all in all, we are a tight and honest group of biz professionals.

TurboAngel · 03-03-2004, 06:25 AM

Get them Aaron!

swedguy · 03-03-2004, 06:30 AM

Good to see that things are finally starting to happen.

cool1 · 03-03-2004, 07:06 AM

AaronM
I am sorry to hear these things happened to you, you don't deserve shit like this.
I wish you much luck and hope things work out for you.

bugout · 03-03-2004, 07:11 AM

Great thread..

I just had to get my sig in..

Oh wait, I dont have a sig

Bree · 03-03-2004, 07:13 AM

Aaron
glad to see you take this stand. Good luck

jact · 03-03-2004, 07:14 AM

I'm just on my way to pickup LadyM from the hospital, I'll be back later today to read each and every post of this thread.

Aaron, if you need anything, just call on me bro. I know you probably won't, but the offer's there just in case.

Platinum Dave · 03-03-2004, 07:16 AM

The drama, its killing me.....

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 03-03-2004, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ross
WOW I didn't know he also owned Dickmans design. Bruno and his team are the best designers out there...

That sucks balls.

I think they meant to type "owes" instead of "owned"

Aaron, go get em Tiger!!

cosis · 03-03-2004, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by twodamntons
What's this?

http://shavebucks.com/July2003.pdf

well i guess i won't be using them

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 03-03-2004, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jact
I'm just on my way to pickup LadyM from the hospital, I'll be back later today to read each and every post of this thread.

Aaron, if you need anything, just call on me bro. I know you probably won't, but the offer's there just in case.

Did she have the baby?

Nicky · 03-03-2004, 07:20 AM

yea shove dog shit down their throut Aaron!!! they deserv it!

some_idiot · 03-03-2004, 07:22 AM

Pretty fucked up. I don't know Tam at all, but Aaron is a great
guy. This is enough for me to dump my links no matter what
Sixpack's response is going to be. (hate to be him waking up
to this...)

Keep strong Aaron!

Naughty · 03-03-2004, 07:31 AM

Here's to yet another DVD/Xbox for ya.

Good luck.

Naughty · 03-03-2004, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by some_idiot
no matter what
Sixpack's response is going to be. (hate to be him waking up
to this...)

I'm sure he got used to it by now

Minte · 03-03-2004, 07:34 AM

Good to see this whole event finally out in the open..

Bruno · 03-03-2004, 07:46 AM

Ummmm.... those types of thread about Rodney are not surprising anymore. Its amazing how he managed to fuck so many people over. People that were taking him as honest, stand up guy, with a big dream.

Killah believed him and got fucked. Tam believed him and got fucked. AaronM believed him and got fucked. Me and Mike here at Dickmans Design believed him, and we gave two months of our sweat producing tours to him, knowing that we would be paid 6 months after doing the work, and with all that help, he managed to fuck up with all of us. If he decided to run an honest biz, he would succeed or he would have BIG chances of making it. His greed was too big though.

Aaron, lets do it. Hit me up and do something with the law firm you are dealing with. Rodney claim he´s broke but I doubt it. He stole to many people - IMHO its impossible to be broke with so many people working for him "for free". I didnt want to mess with this shit anymore, we have tons of projects going on and money is coming in, but if everyone is doing it, lets get together and get what is ours.

You know my icq. You know my email too. Lets talk.

Take care and kind regards,

Bruno Dickman

BradM · 03-03-2004, 08:03 AM

Just read the whole thing... wow Aaron. Go get him in court. Sounds like he is fucked.

JFPdude · 03-03-2004, 08:29 AM

Tam... you know you rock ... thankfully this is behind you now ... I'm sure Rodney knew he fucked up when your real freinds stopped posting at his board and stopped promoting his sites. I'm glad you can finally put this in the past and move on. Aaron owes you big time for your silence on this matter.

Aaron your reputation can only get better now. You rocked before all this and now that you can finally move on I am sure this industry will see your true potential.

Rodney... Yes supersize that and a coke please.

Bruno · 03-03-2004, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ross
WOW I didn't know he also owned Dickmans design. Bruno and his team are the best designers out there...

That sucks balls.

WoW... careful here... lets clarify this: Ross meant RConn owes us money. He doesnt own Dickmans Design. Me and Mike own Dickmans Design. RConn has nothing to do wit it and I want to clarify because the only association we have with Rodney is that he owes us 20k+ in designs.

A small grammar mistake can fuck up things big time. hehe Ok, sorry for the huge words but Its never too much when its the name of my company at risk.

Take care,

Bruno Dickman

porncargo · 03-03-2004, 08:34 AM

good luck aaron.

Joesho · 03-03-2004, 08:49 AM

I hope thingas work out for the best for you AaronM, (I have never met Tam, but I hope everything is good for youtoo)

REßEL · 03-03-2004, 08:56 AM

hmmm why does http://shavebucks.com/ redirect to pibcash I wonder...

Ramster · 03-03-2004, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bruno

WoW... careful here... lets clarify this: Ross meant RConn owes us money. He doesnt own Dickmans Design. Me and Mike own Dickmans Design. RConn has nothing to do wit it and I want to clarify because the only association we have with Rodney is that he owes us 20k+ in designs.

A small grammar mistake can fuck up things big time. hehe Ok, sorry for the huge words but Its never too much when its the name of my company at risk.

Take care,

Bruno Dickman

Bump for Bruno on this!

Aaron, get that fucker!!

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03-03-2004, 01:39 AM	#213
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03-03-2004, 06:25 AM	#227
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03-03-2004, 06:25 AM	#228
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03-03-2004, 06:30 AM	#229
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03-03-2004, 07:06 AM	#230
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03-03-2004, 07:11 AM	#231
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03-03-2004, 07:13 AM	#232
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03-03-2004, 07:14 AM	#233
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03-03-2004, 07:16 AM	#234
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03-03-2004, 07:22 AM	#239
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03-03-2004, 07:31 AM	#240
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03-03-2004, 07:34 AM	#242
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03-03-2004, 07:46 AM	#243
Bruno Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: São Paulo - SP - Brazil Posts: 1,241	Ummmm.... those types of thread about Rodney are not surprising anymore. Its amazing how he managed to fuck so many people over. People that were taking him as honest, stand up guy, with a big dream. Killah believed him and got fucked. Tam believed him and got fucked. AaronM believed him and got fucked. Me and Mike here at Dickmans Design believed him, and we gave two months of our sweat producing tours to him, knowing that we would be paid 6 months after doing the work, and with all that help, he managed to fuck up with all of us. If he decided to run an honest biz, he would succeed or he would have BIG chances of making it. His greed was too big though. Aaron, lets do it. Hit me up and do something with the law firm you are dealing with. Rodney claim he´s broke but I doubt it. He stole to many people - IMHO its impossible to be broke with so many people working for him "for free". I didnt want to mess with this shit anymore, we have tons of projects going on and money is coming in, but if everyone is doing it, lets get together and get what is ours. You know my icq. You know my email too. Lets talk. Take care and kind regards, Bruno Dickman __________________ work hard. play hard. http://www.dickmansdesign.com MSN brunodickman at hotmail.com iCQ # 107450119 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

03-03-2004, 08:03 AM	#244
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Just read the whole thing... wow Aaron. Go get him in court. Sounds like he is fucked.

03-03-2004, 08:29 AM	#245
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Tam... you know you rock ... thankfully this is behind you now ... I'm sure Rodney knew he fucked up when your real freinds stopped posting at his board and stopped promoting his sites. I'm glad you can finally put this in the past and move on. Aaron owes you big time for your silence on this matter. Aaron your reputation can only get better now. You rocked before all this and now that you can finally move on I am sure this industry will see your true potential. Rodney... Yes supersize that and a coke please.

03-03-2004, 08:34 AM	#247
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03-03-2004, 08:49 AM	#248
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