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MadCap · 02-28-2004, 02:43 AM

People that push per-signup or people that push revshare programs. Overall not individuals.

And what do you push and why.

This is a serios question I want to know why you push who you push not conversion wise but your reason for pushing certian types of programs.

flashfire · 02-28-2004, 02:44 AM

revshare over the long run...per signup is for people that want or need money right away

VeriSexy · 02-28-2004, 02:45 AM

per-signup

Reason: Bradshaw said so

hoe_vender · 02-28-2004, 02:46 AM

bluff · 02-28-2004, 02:46 AM

revshare

SomeCreep · 02-28-2004, 02:47 AM

people that do both

IPK · 02-28-2004, 02:47 AM

per sign up

Slinx · 02-28-2004, 02:50 AM

If you have a good revshare program you are doing better with revshare. (over a view of 1-1,5 years) For the fast buck go by pps.

I'm pushing both. Money is money

foolio · 02-28-2004, 02:50 AM

one time payout for the crap sites

every time for the good sites

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfire
revshare over the long run...per signup is for people that want or need money right away

I deffinatley agree man I could even in the good ol days at $35 a signup make about twice as much pushing revshare.

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by IPK
per sign up

Why do you think that.

Or was it just for sig views.

TheJimmy · 02-28-2004, 02:52 AM

people that push sites that they own...

so ultimately, revshare...

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheJimmy
people that push sites that they own...

so ultimately, revshare...

Very good point man but do you think persignup makes a webmaster more money

Living For Today · 02-28-2004, 03:02 AM

revshare

NaughtyJenn · 02-28-2004, 03:06 AM

revshare all the way

valley hina · 02-28-2004, 03:06 AM

per sign-up

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 03:15 AM

I see allot of you saying what but not to many saying WHY.

Elaborate a little tell me why you feel the way you do

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-28-2004, 03:17 AM

You will notice anyone that is huge and successful provides both offerings.

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
You will notice anyone that is huge and successful provides both offerings.

And I am not insinuating that you dont.

But allot of people dont get why programs do that

Its not because they want to pay affiliates more its because they make more if you go per signup. And it draws people in because by nature people want to see the quick buck (pardon the pun) but few see the big picture. IMO

If that makes sense.

malakajoe · 02-28-2004, 03:25 AM

It all matters on the site you are promoting. If you are promoting a site that won't keep the member an average for 3 to 4 months, then Per Signup is better. If you are promoting sites that keep the average member for that time, you are better off.

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by malakajoe
It all matters on the site you are promoting. If you are promoting a site that won't keep the member an average for 3 to 4 months, then Per Signup is better. If you are promoting sites that keep the average member for that time, you are better off.

very good point.

It deffinatley depends on the sites you promote.

3 rebills on a 29.95 rebill makes $45 I think that is about the break. Good call but its only 2 calander monthes as the first rebill is in 3 days.

I agree with you on the point you made.

exspamr · 02-28-2004, 03:41 AM

depends on the sites and their content... revshare is cool though... i stopped *ahem* promoting this one program like 4 years ago and im still getting checks in the mail... gotta love that

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by exspamr
depends on the sites and their content... revshare is cool though... i stopped *ahem* promoting this one program like 4 years ago and im still getting checks in the mail... gotta love that

I have people that have been rebilling since 2001 on a few of my sites and they still login.

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MadCap

I have people that have been rebilling since 2001 on a few of my sites and they still login.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this.

I want a better sample of what people think and WHY.

Krille · 02-28-2004, 05:02 AM

per signup, got to love getting paid up front

strobi · 02-28-2004, 05:06 AM

PPS programs get far more sales. But the individual who knows his stuff can earn more using revshare

swoop · 02-28-2004, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MadCap
I have people that have been rebilling since 2001 on a few of my sites and they still login.

nice to hear.

would you say a lot of these rebills, rev share programs are of the 'reality site' programs? what niche/programs do you prefer?

02-28-2004, 05:15 AM

A mix of both is the way to go. I like to push PPS maybe 1 gallery per day, and revshare at 3 per day. This way it evens out on a daily basis, and the rebills save my ass during the slow months.

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by swoop

nice to hear.

would you say a lot of these rebills, rev share programs are of the 'reality site' programs? what niche/programs do you prefer?

first part of your question

mature, teen and gay are great niches for me

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shermsshack
A mix of both is the way to go. I like to push PPS maybe 1 gallery per day, and revshare at 3 per day. This way it evens out on a daily basis, and the rebills save my ass during the slow months.

Good ratio I agree mixing it up is good I just make more on recurring in the long run and yes in slow signup times like summer recurring is SWEET

Ash@phpFX · 02-28-2004, 05:20 AM

i think it depends entirely on the site, if they are likely to stay members, go revshare, if they are likely to stay for only one month, go pps.

swoop · 02-28-2004, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MadCap
mature, teen and gay are great niches for me

Cool. Someone was telling me teen wasn't all that hot anymore, but I had my doubts about that especially going to vegas in Jan and seeing all the sites out there and I really think teen will always be a hot converting niche.

SubSonic · 02-28-2004, 05:23 AM

Definitely revshare ... it's allways great to see how i get payed for people that joined months ago.

PPS is great for the fast money. But on the long run i prefer revshare

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SubSonic
Definitely revshare ... it's allways great to see how i get payed for people that joined months ago.

PPS is great for the fast money. But on the long run i prefer revshare

Agreed.

If you car breaks down PPS

I want want a new one Revshare

rounders · 02-28-2004, 05:30 AM

per sign up

Trax · 02-28-2004, 05:32 AM

whoever says PPS has no clue
(i am talking about a quality paysite here, no cookie cutter bs paysite)

revshare will always beat PPS

02-28-2004, 05:34 AM

Words of wisdom:

Don't put all of your eggs in 1 basket.

Too many do this, and I really feel bad for them. Especially Newbies. $35.00 up front looks good, but as in any business, there are slow times.

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
whoever says PPS has no clue
(i am talking about a quality paysite here, no cookie cutter bs paysite)

revshare will always beat PPS

I really wanted to see peoples replies to this and figure out exactly how some people think.

But i ended up with a bunch of shit i word replies.

Got some good ones from the people in the know

doornx · 02-28-2004, 05:42 AM

cookie cutter sites, per signup...orginal sites with loads of content and multiple site access for members (lightspeed) ..recurring base

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by doornx
cookie cutter sites, per signup...orginal sites with loads of content and multiple site access for members (lightspeed) ..recurring base

So which one do you perfer to send your traffic to?

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 07:41 AM

Bump to here what the morning crew has to say about this

Reak · 02-28-2004, 07:43 AM

Revshare, In the paysite biz the money is in the Rebills

slapass · 02-28-2004, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MadCap

3 rebills on a 29.95 rebill makes $45 I think that is about the break. Good call but its only 2 calander monthes as the first rebill is in 3 days.

At ccbill that is $39 not $45.

Revshare works with a few sites. PPS, even an idiot like me can make $$$ with lots of sites.

seven · 02-28-2004, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slinx
If you have a good revshare program you are doing better with revshare. (over a view of 1-1,5 years) For the fast buck go by pps.

I'm pushing both. Money is money

what he said

KRL · 02-28-2004, 08:06 AM

You can make a lot of money in a rev share deal if its got member stickability.

seven · 02-28-2004, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
At ccbill that is $39 not $45.

With epoch it would be true but not necessarily true for CCBill. Sponsor gets an option to or not to split processor fees with you. If sponsor chooses to pay the fees himself you make $45.. actually if the sponsor is good and niched you may end up making much more than $45 with revshare

NaughtyJenn · 02-28-2004, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
You can make a lot of money in a rev share deal if its got member stickability.

agree 200%

chowda · 02-28-2004, 08:18 AM

yeah, a definate revshare can outlast a pps

if u charge 30bux, get 60% u get 18bux roughly

if he stays for 2 months thats like 36bux

if stays for 3 thats 54bux

u break even with the big pps if they stay for 2 months.

MadCap · 02-28-2004, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chowda
yeah, a definate revshare can outlast a pps

if u charge 30bux, get 60% u get 18bux roughly

if he stays for 2 months thats like 36bux

if stays for 3 thats 54bux

u break even with the big pps if they stay for 2 months.

Thats the way i look at it also if you have a few hundred subs on a revshare you are doing good with that sponsor and if retention is there you can get 5 or 6 or more rebills off the surefer.

pradaboy · 02-28-2004, 09:42 AM

depends on the site, I think I use 70% PPS and 30% revshare

if the site is a good retainer revshare is better

02-28-2004, 02:43 AM	#1
MadCap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: 137771650 Minneapolis MN Posts: 2,357	So who do you think makes more money People that push per-signup or people that push revshare programs. Overall not individuals. And what do you push and why. This is a serios question I want to know why you push who you push not conversion wise but your reason for pushing certian types of programs.

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02-28-2004, 02:44 AM	#2
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02-28-2004, 03:02 AM	#14
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02-28-2004, 03:15 AM	#17
MadCap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: 137771650 Minneapolis MN Posts: 2,357	I see allot of you saying what but not to many saying WHY. Elaborate a little tell me why you feel the way you do

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exspamr Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,427	depends on the sites and their content... revshare is cool though... i stopped ahem promoting this one program like 4 years ago and im still getting checks in the mail... gotta love that

02-28-2004, 05:02 AM	#25
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02-28-2004, 05:06 AM	#26
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	PPS programs get far more sales. But the individual who knows his stuff can earn more using revshare

02-28-2004, 05:15 AM	#28
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	A mix of both is the way to go. I like to push PPS maybe 1 gallery per day, and revshare at 3 per day. This way it evens out on a daily basis, and the rebills save my ass during the slow months.

02-28-2004, 05:20 AM	#31
Ash@phpFX Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,292	i think it depends entirely on the site, if they are likely to stay members, go revshare, if they are likely to stay for only one month, go pps.

02-28-2004, 05:23 AM	#33
SubSonic Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain / ICQ: 474-520-926 Posts: 1,383	Definitely revshare ... it's allways great to see how i get payed for people that joined months ago. PPS is great for the fast money. But on the long run i prefer revshare

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02-28-2004, 05:32 AM	#36
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	whoever says PPS has no clue (i am talking about a quality paysite here, no cookie cutter bs paysite) revshare will always beat PPS

02-28-2004, 05:34 AM	#37
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	Words of wisdom: Don't put all of your eggs in 1 basket. Too many do this, and I really feel bad for them. Especially Newbies. $35.00 up front looks good, but as in any business, there are slow times.

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02-28-2004, 07:41 AM	#41
MadCap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: 137771650 Minneapolis MN Posts: 2,357	Bump to here what the morning crew has to say about this

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02-28-2004, 08:18 AM	#48
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